And, thanks to you, Mona. That's good news, especially since the records I will need are probably in the Koeslin. Since you were searching in Koeslin, what villages are your ancestors from? Mine are from Zechlin (now Zychlin) & possibly Morgenstern, both small villages. I'm always looking for others who might be researching other names from those or nearby villages. Thanks again for the info. Judy On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mona <HeritageHunt@sandyviewinfo.net>wrote: > judy petersen wrote: > > Thanks, Trudy. I took a look at her website & they look like capable > > researchers. My only question would be whether Kasia can read the old > > German script the records are in. > > Hi Judy, > I'm not Trudy, but I know Kasia can read it -- the records we were > searching together were in written in old German script in the archives > in Koeslin. > > > -- > Mona Houser > HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net > Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ > Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ > My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

judy petersen wrote: > Thanks, Trudy. I took a look at her website & they look like capable > researchers. My only question would be whether Kasia can read the old > German script the records are in. Hi Judy, I'm not Trudy, but I know Kasia can read it -- the records we were searching together were in written in old German script in the archives in Koeslin. -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

Try this: http://www.discovering-roots.pl/welcome.htm Kerry Edwards wrote: > Hello > > can some please send me the contact email of the Discovering your Roots - > Poland as their link will not open the email address. > > thanks > Kind Regards > > Kerry >> Trudy Krueger wrote: >>> Hi Judy, >>> I just returned from a two week research trip in Poland. My area of >>> interest is specifically, Elbing, Deutsch Eylau, Hansdorf and a few other >>> smaller villages in Northern Poland. I found a wonderful researcher. >> She >>> was a tremendous help. Her name is Kasia/Katarzyna Grycza. Go to the >>> following website: >>> www.discovering-roots.pl -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

Trudy, I'm so happy to see that Kasia is still researching and guiding. It was almost 10 years ago that she helped us when we were there. She's a delightful person as well as an excellent guide. Mona Trudy Krueger wrote: > Hi Judy, > I just returned from a two week research trip in Poland. My area of > interest is specifically, Elbing, Deutsch Eylau, Hansdorf and a few other > smaller villages in Northern Poland. I found a wonderful researcher. She > was a tremendous help. Her name is Kasia/Katarzyna Grycza. Go to the > following website: > www.discovering-roots.pl -- HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

Thanks, Trudy. I took a look at her website & they look like capable researchers. My only question would be whether Kasia can read the old German script the records are in. Another person said the Pomerania area up near the Baltic Sea was all German speaking, & the records are all in old German. My ancestors (Brodt) considered themselves German, & some continued to speak only German until they got into school, so I have to consider the language issue. I'm waiting for my cousin to also come up with names from her contacts, before I can do anything at this point. My only question is really the language. Thanks for the link. Judy On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Trudy Krueger <tgkrueger@att.net> wrote: > Hi Judy, > I just returned from a two week research trip in Poland. My area of > interest is specifically, Elbing, Deutsch Eylau, Hansdorf and a few other > smaller villages in Northern Poland. I found a wonderful researcher. She > was a tremendous help. Her name is Kasia/Katarzyna Grycza. Go to the > following website: > www.discovering-roots.pl > > If you have any questions that I can help with please contact me. > > Trudy > Michigan USA > > > On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research > the > >> area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > >> Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > >> Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both > about > >> midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). > Family > >> name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they > said > >> they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war > when > >> Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > >> suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > >> archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > >> > >> Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt > 1850-1870. > >> One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the > area. > >> Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her > 6 > >> children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on > the > >> kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > >> etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > >> earlier Polish records. > >> > >> A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search > for > >> the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > >> might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > >> someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too > >> expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > >> Judy > >> Anchorage, AK > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Judy, I just returned from a two week research trip in Poland. My area of interest is specifically, Elbing, Deutsch Eylau, Hansdorf and a few other smaller villages in Northern Poland. I found a wonderful researcher. She was a tremendous help. Her name is Kasia/Katarzyna Grycza. Go to the following website: www.discovering-roots.pl If you have any questions that I can help with please contact me. Trudy Michigan USA > On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the >> area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. >> Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of >> Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about >> midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). Family >> name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said >> they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when >> Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago >> suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish >> archives in Stettin (Sczezin). >> >> Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. >> One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. >> Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 >> children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the >> kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, >> etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the >> earlier Polish records. >> >> A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for >> the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that >> might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for >> someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too >> expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. >> Judy >> Anchorage, AK >>

Thank you - it looks like they have a good resource there, but I am fairly certain my immigrant ancestor was Catholic, and the site is all Evangelical. Best, Ray At 06:55 AM 10/9/2011, Janet wrote: >Ray, I don't know if this would be of any help to you or not. I stumbled >across it a little while ago and bookmarked it - just in case - but have not >checked it out. > >http://www.ezab.de/e/eaframe.html > >Janet > >-----Original Message----- >From: RayS >Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:44 AM >To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor >Research > >Hi all, > >As many here (I suspect) find, Prussian immigrants are difficult to >track back. As I understand, there is no centralized German >resources, like in Sweden, and even the churches were fractured by >war and politics. >I had heard vaguely from one older family member about "Regensburg" >mentioned, but no specifics. I just found a new Illinois death >recording in "Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947" which lists "Berlin, >Germany" as the immigrant's (her father) place of birth. But this is >the first reference in 15 years of looking and I'm naturally suspect. >The daughter's surviving husband was probably the informant, and >Berlin might not have been the actual birthplace, as the other poster >commented - people move. > >If anyone has good suggestions for Berlin resources, I'll look of >course, or even hire a local, which worked well for getting a Swedish >g-grandmother's info. > >At 11:40 PM 9/30/2011, you wrote: > >I had a problem with my g-grandparents, no village or town listed on any > >official records. When I started researching the births of their > >children I found the baptism records listed the village names for each > >of the parents. > >I found a number of Antone Schumacher's children in Chicago Catholic >baptismal records (Latin) in the LDS films, but none mentioned a >village. They are still a good source of other info, especially as >the Great Fire destroyed all civil records, like their marriage and >his naturalization. >I searched all area church's records for an ~1861 marriage to no >avail; it might have been a justice of the peace in little Niles >Township. Most children were married Catholic, but some not. >They were baptized in at least 3 different Chicago churches, not >corresponding to their residence at the time. I found it amazing they >would travel 8 miles in 1860s with an infant for the baptism. > > > > On 09/30/11, judy petersen wrote: Plenty of info > > >> on his years in Chicago, but no idea where or how to look for him in > > >> Silesia. I'm also interested in any ideas on how to approach this. > >I too found a lot of info post-fire, but by then he was married with >5 children. His wife, Maria Klinge, was 1st generation American and >so her parents are in the same informational black hole... > >Basic info on who I'm searching for: >Antone Schumacher b.1837 (Berlin?) Prussia, imm. ~1848 >parents: Antone Schumacher - Ann Maria Krupp, Prussia >m. ~1861 Niles Ill. to: >Maria Anna Kilnge b.1844 Niles >parents: Carl Klinge - Gertrude Falkenberg, Prussia > >Ray Schumacher >http://rjs.org/geneaology/ > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A few years ago I came across the "Die offizielle Gemeinde-Vermisstenliste von Marienburg" (The official community list of missing persond from Marienburg) It provides as little of information as- Basner, Paul Roonstraße 1 or as much as- Glowinke, Herbert 3.3.21 Gelsenkirchen (date & place of birth) Nogstweg 79 (address) Arbeiter (occupation - worker) zuletzt Bahnhofwirtschaft Marienburg (last restaurant worker in Marienburg) Angehoeriger von Friederieke Glowinka (relativ of Friederieke Glowinka) letzte Nachricht 16.2.45 aus Pilonken-Oliwa (last news from Pilonken-Oliwa) The report was created from about the 1960's, maybe even into the 1970's Many relationships are metioned , also when the person was dragged off by Russian soldiers. A problem with the list there are about 200 pages, no index, not alphabetical, but it lists according to address alphabetically. I don't know if there are other lists generated, I assume there very well may be, also by community. Unfortunately, that is a definite maybe. I mainly use it as a refence in my lectures. Guenter in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark F Rabideau" <genealogy@eirenicon.org> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Cc: lisa@many-roads.com, becky@pep-inc.com Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 11:01:02 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Vertreibung aus Memmelland -- Expulsion from Memel Hi Mary. I took the liberty of making the title of this thread more meaningful.   Here are some links; perhaps they will help.  (Note links 3 & 4 are on my website...)  1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6qL8tQCL8E&noredirect=1  2. http://www.z-g-v.de/english/aktuelles/?id=56  3. http://www.many-roads.com/photo-galleries/flucht/  4. http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/deutsche-vertriebenen-german-expulsions-history/  5. http://www.spiegel.de/thema/vertreibung_von_deutschen_1944_1948/  6. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierungsbezirk_Gumbinnen  7. http://www.b24.net/stories/hatton.htm Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It’s always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don’t."* Rabbit, Pooh’s Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 10/06/2011 07:07 AM, Mary Hillegas wrote: > Does anyone have information about the Heydekrug Evacuation of civilians in 1944 as the Red Army advanced toward Memel/Heydekrug and/or what happened to those who did not evacuate?  I've found a living cousin in Germany who fled as a young boy but he doesn't seem to want to talk about it and I know I have at least 2 relatives that stayed behind and were murdered -- can't find my great grandpa (George Klinger).  I'm interested in the history of that event as well as any genealogy resources that would help locate citizens from that time/area.  Thanks. > Mary Hillegas > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Mark F Rabideau<genealogy@eirenicon.org> > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: lisa@many-roads.com, becky@pep-inc.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian/Polish researcher > Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:04:27 -0600 > > Hi Judy > > You can likely do much of this initial research on your own over the > web, for no cost.  Here are some links that might help: > >   * Adressbücher- Address Books >     <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/adressbucher-address-books/> >   * Map Collection -- Landkarten<http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/maps/> >   * http://www.many-roads.com/link-directory/ >   * Tips, Opinions,&  Pointers! >     <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/tips-opinions-pointers/> >   * Genealogy Materials&  Courses >     <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/educational-materials/> > > > > Pax Vobiscum, > ...mark (Mark Rabideau) > > ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) > *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com<http://many-roads.com/>  * > *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 > *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 > *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists&  National > Genealogical Society > _____________________________________________________________________ > *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you > want him or whether you don't."* > > Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) > > > > > On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the >> area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. >> Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of >> Zechlin (now Zychlin)&   Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about >> midway&   a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)&   Danzig (Gdansk).  Family >> name is Brodt, clearly German,&   when they migrated to Chicago, they said >> they were German.  Most records for Germans were purged after the war when >> Poland took over it's own government.  However, someone a few yrs ago >> suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish >> archives in Stettin (Sczezin). >> >> Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. >> One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. >> Johann died in Zechlin,&   wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 >> children.  My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name.  U.S. records on the >> kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, >> etc.  We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the >> earlier Polish records. >> >> A cousin&   I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for >> the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that >> might have that maiden name.  Since funds are limited, we're looking for >> someone that others have used or believe are dependable&   not too >> expensive.  Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. >> Judy >> Anchorage, AK >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________ > Hyatt Summerfield Suites&#174 > All Suites Hotel with a Full Kitchen. 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Dear Listers, this is a first post to this website. I am trying to locate my Luschwitz ancestors and am hoping that someone here on this list can assist me please. the names I have are as follows: Descendants of Joseph Luschwitz 1 Joseph Luschwitz b: 14 August 1797 in Germany .. +Josepha Luschwitz b: 11 December 1805 in Germany .. 2 Joseph Henry (Harry) Luschwitz b: 29 January 1840 in Germany d: in Hyderabad ...... +Mary Elizabeth Moore b: 2 October 1846 in Hyderabad m: 1 February 1869 in Bhooj, Gujarat d: 16 August 1880 in Hyderabad .. *2nd Wife of Joseph Henry (Harry) Luschwitz: ...... +Laura Sophia Mayberry b: 24 October 1854 in Hyderabad m: 15 February 1882 in St George's Hyderabad d: 11 November 1898 in Hyderabad I understand that the family lived and there are graves in the Langenbeilau (now Bielawa) area that belong to the Luschwitz family. The family who were in India also returned to the Schweidnitz (now Swidnica) area where they stayed at a convent inthe early 1920s as my uncle Charles Henry Luschwitz and his son Joseph Henry Luschwitz IIIrd learned music at Leipzig. I know all this is rather heresay but any assistance that can be provide to the names of the above family would be appreciated. Joseph Henry (Harry) Luschwitz did 'migrate' to India and served as Bandmaster to the 2nd Balouchi Regiment in the 1840s. He married Mary Elizabeth Moore in Karachi and then moved to Hyderabad to join the Nizam's String Band as Director of Music. His son Charles Henry took over at his death. Charles was born in Karachi. Kind Regards Kerry Kind Regards Kerry IF YOU FORWARD MY EMAILS AS A COURTESY PLEASE REMOVE ALL PRECEDING EMAIL ADDRESSES INCLUDING MINE. BLIND COPY (bcc) IF YOU CAN AS IT AVOID SPAMMERS USING ADDRESSES.

Does anyone have information about the Heydekrug Evacuation of civilians in 1944 as the Red Army advanced toward Memel/Heydekrug and/or what happened to those who did not evacuate? I've found a living cousin in Germany who fled as a young boy but he doesn't seem to want to talk about it and I know I have at least 2 relatives that stayed behind and were murdered -- can't find my great grandpa (George Klinger). I'm interested in the history of that event as well as any genealogy resources that would help locate citizens from that time/area. Thanks. Mary Hillegas ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mark F Rabideau <genealogy@eirenicon.org> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Cc: lisa@many-roads.com, becky@pep-inc.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian/Polish researcher Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:04:27 -0600 Hi Judy You can likely do much of this initial research on your own over the web, for no cost. Here are some links that might help: * Adressbücher- Address Books <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/adressbucher-address-books/> * Map Collection -- Landkarten <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/maps/> * http://www.many-roads.com/link-directory/ * Tips, Opinions, & Pointers! <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/tips-opinions-pointers/> * Genealogy Materials & Courses <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/educational-materials/> Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don't."* Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the > area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about > midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). Family > name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said > they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when > Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > > Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. > One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. > Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 > children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the > kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > earlier Polish records. > > A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for > the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too > expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > Judy > Anchorage, AK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Hyatt Summerfield Suites&#174 All Suites Hotel with a Full Kitchen. Free Breakfast & Wi-Fi. Book Now http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e8da85b11a449f217st03vuc

Hi Mary. I took the liberty of making the title of this thread more meaningful. Here are some links; perhaps they will help. (Note links 3 & 4 are on my website...) 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6qL8tQCL8E&noredirect=1 2. http://www.z-g-v.de/english/aktuelles/?id=56 3. http://www.many-roads.com/photo-galleries/flucht/ 4. http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/deutsche-vertriebenen-german-expulsions-history/ 5. http://www.spiegel.de/thema/vertreibung_von_deutschen_1944_1948/ 6. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierungsbezirk_Gumbinnen 7. http://www.b24.net/stories/hatton.htm Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It’s always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don’t."* Rabbit, Pooh’s Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 10/06/2011 07:07 AM, Mary Hillegas wrote: > Does anyone have information about the Heydekrug Evacuation of civilians in 1944 as the Red Army advanced toward Memel/Heydekrug and/or what happened to those who did not evacuate? I've found a living cousin in Germany who fled as a young boy but he doesn't seem to want to talk about it and I know I have at least 2 relatives that stayed behind and were murdered -- can't find my great grandpa (George Klinger). I'm interested in the history of that event as well as any genealogy resources that would help locate citizens from that time/area. Thanks. > Mary Hillegas > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Mark F Rabideau<genealogy@eirenicon.org> > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: lisa@many-roads.com, becky@pep-inc.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian/Polish researcher > Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:04:27 -0600 > > Hi Judy > > You can likely do much of this initial research on your own over the > web, for no cost. Here are some links that might help: > > * Adressbücher- Address Books > <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/adressbucher-address-books/> > * Map Collection -- Landkarten<http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/maps/> > * http://www.many-roads.com/link-directory/ > * Tips, Opinions,& Pointers! > <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/tips-opinions-pointers/> > * Genealogy Materials& Courses > <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/educational-materials/> > > > > Pax Vobiscum, > ...mark (Mark Rabideau) > > ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) > *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com<http://many-roads.com/> * > *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 > *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 > *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists& National > Genealogical Society > _____________________________________________________________________ > *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you > want him or whether you don't."* > > Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) > > > > > On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the >> area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. >> Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of >> Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about >> midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). Family >> name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said >> they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when >> Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago >> suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish >> archives in Stettin (Sczezin). >> >> Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. >> One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. >> Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 >> children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the >> kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, >> etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the >> earlier Polish records. >> >> A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for >> the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that >> might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for >> someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too >> expensive. 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Judy, since until 1945 in his part of Pomerania lived only Germans and all records are in German language, it would be better to look for a researcher who speaks German (and is able to read the old German letters !). I have the inventories of all Prussian archives at home and checked also the online-datebase of the Polish State Archives: http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en Morgenstern belonged to the parish Borntuchen. The parish records of Borntuchen (Protestant) are in the State Archive Köslin: baptims 1812-1885, deaths 1860-1902, marriages 1874-1899. There are also the civil records 1874-1899. Zechlin belonged to the parish Schurow. The parish records of Schurow (Protestant) are also in the State Archive Köslin: baptisms 1864-1946, marriages 1864-1946, deaths 1869-1946. There are also the civil records 1876-1907. Or were your ancestors Catholic ? Since the birth records in the 19th century contained also the maiden name of the mother, you should finde the correct maiden name of Wilhelmine Brodt. Moreover the State Archive of Köslin has several documents about teachers in this region. Sincerely, Stefan Rückling Stefan Rückling Kröoeliner Straße 16 13059 Berlin http://www.rueckling.de/english/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy petersen" <skigranny@gmail.com> To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian/Polish researcher > Hi, > I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research > the > area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > Zechlin (now Zychlin) & Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both > about > midway & a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk) & Danzig (Gdansk). Family > name is Brodt, clearly German, & when they migrated to Chicago, they said > they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when > Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > > Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. > One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. > Johann died in Zechlin, & wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 > children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the > kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > earlier Polish records. > > A cousin & I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for > the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > someone that others have used or believe are dependable & not too > expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > Judy > Anchorage, AK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judy: Have you checked any of the online databases? Do you know what church they would have attended? I have a list of church records on CDs. Are you certain they were German? My Polish Cyman family were forced to change their name to the German version, Zieman and when they arrived in the U.S., they changed their name back to Cyman. I would have thought they were German, if I only knew about the last name Zieman. On 10/3/2011 2:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the > area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about > midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). Family > name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said > they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when > Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > > Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. > One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. > Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 > children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the > kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > earlier Polish records. > > A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for > the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too > expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > Judy > Anchorage, AK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lorene Seman, MBA Assistant Administrator Department of Anesthesiology School of Medicine and Public Health University of Wisconsin 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC Madison, WI 53792-3272 Voice: (608)265-0588 FAX: (608)263-8111 lmseman@wisc.edu

Hi Judy You can likely do much of this initial research on your own over the web, for no cost. Here are some links that might help: * Adressbücher- Address Books <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/adressbucher-address-books/> * Map Collection -- Landkarten <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/maps/> * http://www.many-roads.com/link-directory/ * Tips, Opinions, & Pointers! <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/tips-opinions-pointers/> * Genealogy Materials & Courses <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/educational-materials/> Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don't."* Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the > area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about > midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). Family > name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said > they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when > Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > > Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. > One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. > Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 > children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the > kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > earlier Polish records. > > A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for > the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too > expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > Judy > Anchorage, AK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Mark. I'll look into these sites. I already have maps & locations, but maybe the other websites will link to the original records. Judy On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Mark F Rabideau <genealogy@eirenicon.org>wrote: > Hi Judy > > You can likely do much of this initial research on your own over the > web, for no cost. Here are some links that might help: > > * Adressbücher- Address Books > < > http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/adressbucher-address-books/ > > > * Map Collection -- Landkarten <http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/maps/ > > > * http://www.many-roads.com/link-directory/ > * Tips, Opinions, & Pointers! > <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/tips-opinions-pointers/> > * Genealogy Materials & Courses > <http://www.many-roads.com/key-topics/educational-materials/> > > > > Pax Vobiscum, > ...mark (Mark Rabideau) > > ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) > *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * > *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 > *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 > *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National > Genealogical Society > _____________________________________________________________________ > *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you > want him or whether you don't."* > > Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) > > > > > On 10/03/2011 01:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research > the > > area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > > Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > > Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both > about > > midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). > Family > > name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said > > they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war > when > > Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > > suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > > archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > > > > Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. > > One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the > area. > > Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 > > children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on > the > > kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > > etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > > earlier Polish records. > > > > A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for > > the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > > might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > > someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too > > expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > > Judy > > Anchorage, AK > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lorene, your message came thru just before I clicked off the computer. In records in the U.S., all family members called themselves German. The kids married in Chicago, & many of their kids spoke only German until they went to school. My cousin knows more about the family than I do, & she says German was spoken as first language in all the homes. They belonged to the German Evangelical Reformed (Lutheran) Church in Chicago. In fact, I just received copies of the marriage reference in the Registers of that Church, now St. Peter's United Church of Christ. The church researcher could not find any death reference for the mother Wilhelmine, which we had hoped might give her maiden name. Fortunately, we have lots of American records for the family - it's just the Pomeranian/Prussian records we now need. What sort of list of records do you have? Is it a list, or are there actual records? Thanks, Judy On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Lorene Seman <lmseman@wisc.edu> wrote: > Judy: Have you checked any of the online databases? Do you know what > church they would have attended? I have a list of church records on > CDs. Are you certain they were German? My Polish Cyman family were > forced to change their name to the German version, Zieman and when they > arrived in the U.S., they changed their name back to Cyman. I would > have thought they were German, if I only knew about the last name Zieman. > > On 10/3/2011 2:44 PM, judy petersen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research > the > > area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. > > Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of > > Zechlin (now Zychlin)& Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both > about > > midway& a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk)& Danzig (Gdansk). > Family > > name is Brodt, clearly German,& when they migrated to Chicago, they said > > they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war > when > > Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago > > suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish > > archives in Stettin (Sczezin). > > > > Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. > > One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the > area. > > Johann died in Zechlin,& wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 > > children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on > the > > kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, > > etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the > > earlier Polish records. > > > > A cousin& I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for > > the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that > > might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for > > someone that others have used or believe are dependable& not too > > expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. > > Judy > > Anchorage, AK > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Lorene Seman, MBA > Assistant Administrator > Department of Anesthesiology > School of Medicine and Public Health > University of Wisconsin > 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC > Madison, WI 53792-3272 > Voice: (608)265-0588 > FAX: (608)263-8111 > lmseman@wisc.edu > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I'm looking for names of possible Polish researchers that will research the area of Prussia that is now Pomerania, Poland, up near the Baltic. Specifically, I'm looking for info on family from the tiny villages of Zechlin (now Zychlin) & Morgenstern (maybe spelled Morganstern), both about midway & a little south between Stolpe (Slupsk) & Danzig (Gdansk). Family name is Brodt, clearly German, & when they migrated to Chicago, they said they were German. Most records for Germans were purged after the war when Poland took over it's own government. However, someone a few yrs ago suggested to me that some local records might be found in the Polish archives in Stettin (Sczezin). Johann Brodt was a teacher in the tiny village of Zechlin, abt 1850-1870. One of his sons became a teacher also, possibly of languages, in the area. Johann died in Zechlin, & wife Wilhelmine emigrated to Chicago with her 6 children. My brick wall is Wilhelmine's maiden name. U.S. records on the kids show the name as anything from Krosg to Kersi, Kerst, Kreis, Kersq, etc. We have tons of American records, so the only thing we lack is the earlier Polish records. A cousin & I would like to find a Polish researcher that might search for the Johann Brodt marriage record or birth records of the kids, etc. that might have that maiden name. Since funds are limited, we're looking for someone that others have used or believe are dependable & not too expensive. Thanks in advance for any references or suggestions. Judy Anchorage, AK

Janet, this Archive is "only" a Protestant one. There are several church books from all Prussian which now are in Poland (such as Pomerania, West Prussia, east Prussia, Posen, Silesia). Since Ray's ancestors were Catholic he would find there some information. Stefan Rückling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <9whitegardenia92@comcast.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line PrussiaAncestor Research > Ray, I don't know if this would be of any help to you or not. I stumbled > across it a little while ago and bookmarked it - just in case - but have > not > checked it out. > > http://www.ezab.de/e/eaframe.html > > Janet > > -----Original Message----- > From: RayS > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:44 AM > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor > Research > > Hi all, > > As many here (I suspect) find, Prussian immigrants are difficult to > track back. As I understand, there is no centralized German > resources, like in Sweden, and even the churches were fractured by > war and politics. > I had heard vaguely from one older family member about "Regensburg" > mentioned, but no specifics. I just found a new Illinois death > recording in "Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947" which lists "Berlin, > Germany" as the immigrant's (her father) place of birth. But this is > the first reference in 15 years of looking and I'm naturally suspect. > The daughter's surviving husband was probably the informant, and > Berlin might not have been the actual birthplace, as the other poster > commented - people move. > > If anyone has good suggestions for Berlin resources, I'll look of > course, or even hire a local, which worked well for getting a Swedish > g-grandmother's info. > > At 11:40 PM 9/30/2011, you wrote: >>I had a problem with my g-grandparents, no village or town listed on any >>official records. When I started researching the births of their >>children I found the baptism records listed the village names for each >>of the parents. > > I found a number of Antone Schumacher's children in Chicago Catholic > baptismal records (Latin) in the LDS films, but none mentioned a > village. They are still a good source of other info, especially as > the Great Fire destroyed all civil records, like their marriage and > his naturalization. > I searched all area church's records for an ~1861 marriage to no > avail; it might have been a justice of the peace in little Niles > Township. Most children were married Catholic, but some not. > They were baptized in at least 3 different Chicago churches, not > corresponding to their residence at the time. I found it amazing they > would travel 8 miles in 1860s with an infant for the baptism. > >> > On 09/30/11, judy petersen wrote: Plenty of info >> >> on his years in Chicago, but no idea where or how to look for him in >> >> Silesia. I'm also interested in any ideas on how to approach this. > > I too found a lot of info post-fire, but by then he was married with > 5 children. His wife, Maria Klinge, was 1st generation American and > so her parents are in the same informational black hole... > > Basic info on who I'm searching for: > Antone Schumacher b.1837 (Berlin?) Prussia, imm. ~1848 > parents: Antone Schumacher - Ann Maria Krupp, Prussia > m. ~1861 Niles Ill. to: > Maria Anna Kilnge b.1844 Niles > parents: Carl Klinge - Gertrude Falkenberg, Prussia > > Ray Schumacher > http://rjs.org/geneaology/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Janet, for this link. Looks like it could help some of us. Judy Anchorage, AK On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Janet <9whitegardenia92@comcast.net> wrote: > Ray, I don't know if this would be of any help to you or not. I stumbled > across it a little while ago and bookmarked it - just in case - but have > not > checked it out. > > http://www.ezab.de/e/eaframe.html > > Janet > > -----Original Message----- > From: RayS > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:44 AM > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor > Research > > Hi all, > > As many here (I suspect) find, Prussian immigrants are difficult to > track back. As I understand, there is no centralized German > resources, like in Sweden, and even the churches were fractured by > war and politics. > I had heard vaguely from one older family member about "Regensburg" > mentioned, but no specifics. I just found a new Illinois death > recording in "Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947" which lists "Berlin, > Germany" as the immigrant's (her father) place of birth. But this is > the first reference in 15 years of looking and I'm naturally suspect. > The daughter's surviving husband was probably the informant, and > Berlin might not have been the actual birthplace, as the other poster > commented - people move. > > If anyone has good suggestions for Berlin resources, I'll look of > course, or even hire a local, which worked well for getting a Swedish > g-grandmother's info. > > At 11:40 PM 9/30/2011, you wrote: > >I had a problem with my g-grandparents, no village or town listed on any > >official records. When I started researching the births of their > >children I found the baptism records listed the village names for each > >of the parents. > > I found a number of Antone Schumacher's children in Chicago Catholic > baptismal records (Latin) in the LDS films, but none mentioned a > village. They are still a good source of other info, especially as > the Great Fire destroyed all civil records, like their marriage and > his naturalization. > I searched all area church's records for an ~1861 marriage to no > avail; it might have been a justice of the peace in little Niles > Township. Most children were married Catholic, but some not. > They were baptized in at least 3 different Chicago churches, not > corresponding to their residence at the time. I found it amazing they > would travel 8 miles in 1860s with an infant for the baptism. > > > > On 09/30/11, judy petersen wrote: Plenty of info > > >> on his years in Chicago, but no idea where or how to look for him in > > >> Silesia. I'm also interested in any ideas on how to approach this. > > I too found a lot of info post-fire, but by then he was married with > 5 children. His wife, Maria Klinge, was 1st generation American and > so her parents are in the same informational black hole... > > Basic info on who I'm searching for: > Antone Schumacher b.1837 (Berlin?) Prussia, imm. ~1848 > parents: Antone Schumacher - Ann Maria Krupp, Prussia > m. ~1861 Niles Ill. to: > Maria Anna Kilnge b.1844 Niles > parents: Carl Klinge - Gertrude Falkenberg, Prussia > > Ray Schumacher > http://rjs.org/geneaology/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ray, I don't know if this would be of any help to you or not. I stumbled across it a little while ago and bookmarked it - just in case - but have not checked it out. http://www.ezab.de/e/eaframe.html Janet -----Original Message----- From: RayS Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:44 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor Research Hi all, As many here (I suspect) find, Prussian immigrants are difficult to track back. As I understand, there is no centralized German resources, like in Sweden, and even the churches were fractured by war and politics. I had heard vaguely from one older family member about "Regensburg" mentioned, but no specifics. I just found a new Illinois death recording in "Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947" which lists "Berlin, Germany" as the immigrant's (her father) place of birth. But this is the first reference in 15 years of looking and I'm naturally suspect. The daughter's surviving husband was probably the informant, and Berlin might not have been the actual birthplace, as the other poster commented - people move. If anyone has good suggestions for Berlin resources, I'll look of course, or even hire a local, which worked well for getting a Swedish g-grandmother's info. At 11:40 PM 9/30/2011, you wrote: >I had a problem with my g-grandparents, no village or town listed on any >official records. When I started researching the births of their >children I found the baptism records listed the village names for each >of the parents. I found a number of Antone Schumacher's children in Chicago Catholic baptismal records (Latin) in the LDS films, but none mentioned a village. They are still a good source of other info, especially as the Great Fire destroyed all civil records, like their marriage and his naturalization. I searched all area church's records for an ~1861 marriage to no avail; it might have been a justice of the peace in little Niles Township. Most children were married Catholic, but some not. They were baptized in at least 3 different Chicago churches, not corresponding to their residence at the time. I found it amazing they would travel 8 miles in 1860s with an infant for the baptism. > > On 09/30/11, judy petersen wrote: Plenty of info > >> on his years in Chicago, but no idea where or how to look for him in > >> Silesia. I'm also interested in any ideas on how to approach this. I too found a lot of info post-fire, but by then he was married with 5 children. His wife, Maria Klinge, was 1st generation American and so her parents are in the same informational black hole... Basic info on who I'm searching for: Antone Schumacher b.1837 (Berlin?) Prussia, imm. ~1848 parents: Antone Schumacher - Ann Maria Krupp, Prussia m. ~1861 Niles Ill. to: Maria Anna Kilnge b.1844 Niles parents: Carl Klinge - Gertrude Falkenberg, Prussia Ray Schumacher http://rjs.org/geneaology/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message