Is there a directory for Burlage about the same time frame? Searching for the Luken/Luiken/Lueken surname. Thanks in advance. Judy Luken Jacobs

Here is the link is a much simplified version: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Rg/images/34061_Germany05.pdf David is right, this is an outstanding resource. Roger Miller > [Original Message] > From: Larry Ray Johnson <larryrayj@charter.net> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/25/2007 7:36:34 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! - Village Histories > > David; Page no longer exists. Larry Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "David A Lord" <griff1n@clara.co.uk> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! - Village Histories > HYPERLINK > "http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Rg/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid= > &Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab=&Entry=&Guide=Germany.A > SP"http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Rg/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Aid=&Gi > d=&Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab=&Entry=&Guide=Germany > .ASP > > > > Here is the url for those who may want to access the document that was > mentioned in the recent message � I found it quite a search to find this: > > �These three were found in the LDS "Germany Research Outline" which you > can > > go and download from their web site. EVERY researcher of German ancestors > > should download and READ this document and keep it handy for reference > > during research.� > > > > > > Regards > > David > > ------------------------------------ > > David A Lord > > Scotland UK > > > > Phone: +44 (0)1383 851 450 > > Mobile: +44 (0)777 619 5498 > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: > 25/01/2007 > 15:32 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a copy of the Pommern Gazetteer? Please e-mail me privately. Thanks, Shelley

I am trying to find ancestors in the 1891 directory for Linden, Hannover. This directory is not in alphabetical order. I think streets are listed and those living in each house are listed. Has anyone else viewed this type of directory? What is the best way to find someone without knowing the name of the street they lived on? I have found no index at all. Janet

Hi List, I am new to the list. I am researching my g.grandfather Balduin Rohden 1833-1907 and my grandfather Bruno 1864-1936. They settled in Illinois ,Bruno 1879 and Balduin 1884. I have not been able to find Bruno's ship records .I have most of the information from Illinois. I have not started my Germany research yet. I know Bruno was from Braunschweig, another brother from Colonge (Frank ) and a sister from Baden-Baden ( Agathe Liebig married to Edward ). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Dolores

There are alsoThies families in the Reedsburg/Loganville WI.area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dori Rhody To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] friedrich, thies There are Thies' families in Tigerton, Shawano Co, Wisc. They married into my maternal ancestor family (Polley and Seefeldt) Contact me off line and perhaps can help. Dori > I would like to know where I can find more about this family. I recently found this info on AIDA. Can someone help me? > > 1. Thies, Friedrich, Erichshagen > 3. Burger > 5. Ehefrau: I kind unter 14 Jahre alt; 1 Tochter uber 14 > 7, Amerika > 8. 01.06.1854 > > His wifes names was Dora, and his daughter, Sophia. > > Thank you. Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are Thies' families in Tigerton, Shawano Co, Wisc. They married into my maternal ancestor family (Polley and Seefeldt) Contact me off line and perhaps can help. Dori > I would like to know where I can find more about this family. I recently found this info on AIDA. Can someone help me? > > 1. Thies, Friedrich, Erichshagen > 3. Burger > 5. Ehefrau: I kind unter 14 Jahre alt; 1 Tochter uber 14 > 7, Amerika > 8. 01.06.1854 > > His wifes names was Dora, and his daughter, Sophia. > > Thank you. Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Ortsippenbuch!!! That's the term I was trying to remember. My sections of Deutchland are Sachsen, Thüringen and Nordrein-Westfalen. Many thanks LGO! Now I can sleep well tonight! Regards, Robert Lipprandt ================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "LGO" <le_geefted_one@ix.netcom.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: <rloss@bellsouth.net> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! - Village Histories The documents used to determine ancestry during the area of National Socialism were named Ahnennweis. Maybe that name is what you were thinking of, but I understand you're looking for something different. The only three names of documents relating to village histories that I can find for you are . . . 1.) Ortsippenbuecher or Dorfsippenbuecher - For some German towns, a type of local genealogy book called an Ortssippenbuch or Dorfsippenbuch is available. These local histories give extensive genealogical information on almost all of the town's inhabitants. They usually begin with the earliest town records in the 1500s or 1600s and continue up to the twentieth century. They typically list families in roughly alphabetical order, with a surname index and place index at the end. They frequently have appendixes listing war casualties, mayors, pastors, refugees, or veterans. If your ancestor's town is the subject of one of these books, you will probably be able to easily trace his or her family back many generations. Since it is compiled information, you should verify it whenever possible. These books usually list only families whose members were born or married or died in the town. Some regions of Germany have more than others; Baden, Württemberg, and Hannover have the most. 2.) Deutsche Geschlechterbuecher - These contain the details of descent of middle and lower class famillies - (not nobility) and contain a number of family trees of various German families. They are on a regional basis in that all the families in the book are from one district. 3.) Familienregister - Compiled from church records and are a sort of combination of the first two, above, with the area being limited to a particular parish. These registers list the names of the husband and wife and their birth dates and places, marriage date and place, parents' names, occupations, and residence. If a second marriage is listed, details about the parents of the new marriage partner are often included. Children are usually listed in chronological order. Names, birth dates, confirmation dates, marriage dates, and death dates may be listed. In some registers, when a child married and remained in the same parish, the register gives a “see” reference and a page number where that particular child appears as the head of a household. Some family registers indicate whether the family moved to another village or emigrated to another country. These three were found in the LDS "Germany Research Outline" which you can go and download from their web site. EVERY researcher of German ancestors should download and READ this document and keep it handy for reference during research. Good luck, LGO -----Original Message----- >From: "R. Lipprandt" <rloss@bellsouth.net> >Sent: Jan 25, 2007 11:09 AM >To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! > >Somewhere back on this list, someone mentioned a German term for a village >history, most likely compiled and written by someone local from that >particular village. > >I don't believe it is in the same reference of documents that were used >before WW2 to determine your ancestry. > >Included in this history are births, marriages, military service, deaths and >those that immigrated from that particular village. I need to know the >official term of this village history book.... Ana something-or-other as I >remember. > >Regards, Robert Lipprandt~~ > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LGO In #1, I have an ancester, Teresa Flick census of 1870 (New Orleans) says she was born in Baden. SHe married Simon Jacob Navo. Their first child was born in New Orleans in 1850. Can you find out anything on her. Simon Jacob Navo says he was born in Prussia (Pressen). Thanks Dorothy Sanders ----- Original Message ----- From: "LGO" <le_geefted_one@ix.netcom.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! - Village Histories > The documents used to determine ancestry during the area of National > Socialism were named Ahnennweis. Maybe that name is what you were thinking > of, but I understand you're looking for something different. > > The only three names of documents relating to village histories that I can > find for you are . . . > > 1.) Ortsippenbuecher or Dorfsippenbuecher - For some German towns, a type > of local genealogy > book called an Ortssippenbuch or Dorfsippenbuch is available. These local > histories give extensive > genealogical information on almost all of the town's inhabitants. They > usually begin with the earliest town > records in the 1500s or 1600s and continue up to the twentieth century. > They typically list families in > roughly alphabetical order, with a surname index and place index at the > end. They frequently have > appendixes listing war casualties, mayors, pastors, refugees, or veterans. > If your ancestor's town is the > subject of one of these books, you will probably be able to easily trace > his or her family back many > generations. Since it is compiled information, you should verify it > whenever possible. These books > usually list only families whose members were born or married or died in > the town. Some regions of > Germany have more than others; Baden, Württemberg, and Hannover have the > most. > > 2.) Deutsche Geschlechterbuecher - These contain the details of descent of > middle and lower class famillies - (not nobility) and contain a number of > family trees of various German families. They are on a regional basis in > that all the families in the book are from one district. > > 3.) Familienregister - Compiled from church records and are a sort of > combination of the first two, above, with the area being limited to a > particular parish. These registers list the names of the husband and wife > and their birth dates and places, marriage date and place, parents' names, > occupations, and residence. If a second marriage is listed, details about > the parents of the new marriage partner are often included. Children are > usually listed in chronological order. Names, birth dates, confirmation > dates, marriage dates, and death dates may be listed. In some registers, > when a child married and remained in the same parish, the register gives a > “see” reference and a page number where that particular child appears as > the head of a household. Some family registers indicate whether the family > moved to another village or emigrated to another country. > > These three were found in the LDS "Germany Research Outline" which you can > go and download from their web site. EVERY researcher of German ancestors > should download and READ this document and keep it handy for reference > during research. > > Good luck, > > LGO > > -----Original Message----- >>From: "R. Lipprandt" <rloss@bellsouth.net> >>Sent: Jan 25, 2007 11:09 AM >>To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! >> >>Somewhere back on this list, someone mentioned a German term for a village >>history, most likely compiled and written by someone local from that >>particular village. >> >>I don't believe it is in the same reference of documents that were used >>before WW2 to determine your ancestry. >> >>Included in this history are births, marriages, military service, deaths >>and >>those that immigrated from that particular village. I need to know the >>official term of this village history book.... Ana something-or-other as I >>remember. >> >>Regards, Robert Lipprandt~~ >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The documents used to determine ancestry during the area of National Socialism were named Ahnennweis. Maybe that name is what you were thinking of, but I understand you're looking for something different. The only three names of documents relating to village histories that I can find for you are . . . 1.) Ortsippenbuecher or Dorfsippenbuecher - For some German towns, a type of local genealogy book called an Ortssippenbuch or Dorfsippenbuch is available. These local histories give extensive genealogical information on almost all of the town's inhabitants. They usually begin with the earliest town records in the 1500s or 1600s and continue up to the twentieth century. They typically list families in roughly alphabetical order, with a surname index and place index at the end. They frequently have appendixes listing war casualties, mayors, pastors, refugees, or veterans. If your ancestor's town is the subject of one of these books, you will probably be able to easily trace his or her family back many generations. Since it is compiled information, you should verify it whenever possible. These books usually list only families whose members were born or married or died in the town. Some regions of Germany have more than others; Baden, Württemberg, and Hannover have the most. 2.) Deutsche Geschlechterbuecher - These contain the details of descent of middle and lower class famillies - (not nobility) and contain a number of family trees of various German families. They are on a regional basis in that all the families in the book are from one district. 3.) Familienregister - Compiled from church records and are a sort of combination of the first two, above, with the area being limited to a particular parish. These registers list the names of the husband and wife and their birth dates and places, marriage date and place, parents' names, occupations, and residence. If a second marriage is listed, details about the parents of the new marriage partner are often included. Children are usually listed in chronological order. Names, birth dates, confirmation dates, marriage dates, and death dates may be listed. In some registers, when a child married and remained in the same parish, the register gives a “see” reference and a page number where that particular child appears as the head of a household. Some family registers indicate whether the family moved to another village or emigrated to another country. These three were found in the LDS "Germany Research Outline" which you can go and download from their web site. EVERY researcher of German ancestors should download and READ this document and keep it handy for reference during research. Good luck, LGO -----Original Message----- >From: "R. Lipprandt" <rloss@bellsouth.net> >Sent: Jan 25, 2007 11:09 AM >To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Question! > >Somewhere back on this list, someone mentioned a German term for a village >history, most likely compiled and written by someone local from that >particular village. > >I don't believe it is in the same reference of documents that were used >before WW2 to determine your ancestry. > >Included in this history are births, marriages, military service, deaths and >those that immigrated from that particular village. I need to know the >official term of this village history book.... Ana something-or-other as I >remember. > >Regards, Robert Lipprandt~~ > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Somewhere back on this list, someone mentioned a German term for a village history, most likely compiled and written by someone local from that particular village. I don't believe it is in the same reference of documents that were used before WW2 to determine your ancestry. Included in this history are births, marriages, military service, deaths and those that immigrated from that particular village. I need to know the official term of this village history book.... Ana something-or-other as I remember. Regards, Robert Lipprandt~~

I would like to know where I can find more about this family. I recently found this info on AIDA. Can someone help me? 1. Thies, Friedrich, Erichshagen 3. Burger 5. Ehefrau: I kind unter 14 Jahre alt; 1 Tochter uber 14 7, Amerika 8. 01.06.1854 His wifes names was Dora, and his daughter, Sophia. Thank you. Joan

Hi List I am a new subscriber and am seeking advice on how to search for a Hannover birth certificate. I know nothing about the process in Hannover and I do not know if there is additional information available on German census records or emigration records. The following information is all that I have and is from the 1901 Census for England: Samuel KLEIN Age 28, (born about 1873) Hannover Germany, Further information was that he was a "British Subject" . This latter information was provided in brackets which suggests that either on arrival in England he called himself a British Subject, or perhaps was born to British parents while residing in Germany. His occupation was 'music trainer' and he may have been associated with the stage. He will have emigrated to England prior to March 1901. Any and every bit of assistance or bright ideas is appreciated. Claire New Zealand

You may want to start your search at this web site . . . http://www.feldgrau.com/ In addtion to information, it also has forums you can post queries to. Good luck, LGO -----Original Message----- >From: Peter917@aol.com >Sent: Jan 20, 2007 9:51 AM >To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Ost Preussen/Military 1912 > > Hello fellow searchers and chasers! I have a well preserved Studio Picture >of my Grandfather in Prussian Cadet uniform (nothing formal) in the company of >his fellow cadets.It was taken in Arys,Ost Preussen at a Studio in 1912 and >mailed from Arys to Berlin at that time.The recipient was my Grandmother. >Does anyone have a clue or info on units or individuals who may have >circulated through this Training center at that time.This school was operational >through WW 2. My grandfather survived both wars, thanks be to our God. > I wish I had known about this pic. when he was alive! Any help or hints >would be welcomed. > Peter Meyer in Chicago Metro. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter Check out the following link http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm Scroll down about 2/3 of the LONG page , and You should find more links of German Military uniforms , and with some names. Maybe this will be informative. Karl Roussin ==================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <Peter917@aol.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Ost Preussen/Military 1912 > Hello fellow searchers and chasers! I have a well preserved Studio Picture > of my Grandfather in Prussian Cadet uniform (nothing formal) in the company of > his fellow cadets.It was taken in Arys,Ost Preussen at a Studio in 1912 and > mailed from Arys to Berlin at that time.The recipient was my Grandmother. > Does anyone have a clue or info on units or individuals who may have > circulated through this Training center at that time.This school was operational > through WW 2. My grandfather survived both wars, thanks be to our God. > I wish I had known about this pic. when he was alive! Any help or hints > would be welcomed. > Peter Meyer in Chicago Metro. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello fellow searchers and chasers! I have a well preserved Studio Picture of my Grandfather in Prussian Cadet uniform (nothing formal) in the company of his fellow cadets.It was taken in Arys,Ost Preussen at a Studio in 1912 and mailed from Arys to Berlin at that time.The recipient was my Grandmother. Does anyone have a clue or info on units or individuals who may have circulated through this Training center at that time.This school was operational through WW 2. My grandfather survived both wars, thanks be to our God. I wish I had known about this pic. when he was alive! Any help or hints would be welcomed. Peter Meyer in Chicago Metro.

You're most welcome. That was a direct quite from Hans Bahlow's Dictionary of German Names (Englsh edition 2002). I have numerous other naming dictionairies - I'll see if I can find anything else. (I have a houseguest this weekend) Names are where I always start - I do research for people at www@scgsgenealogy.com Maureen

Maureen.. This is great information.. unfortunately it sounds just a bit too much like the great grandfather I have heard about! I've never ever seen this before and I sincerely appreciate your time and efforts. May I ask where you found this information? Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Spaghettitree@aol.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] PITTROFF Origin of Pittrolff > > According to Bahlow's description, Pittroff is described as follows (be > aware > that B and P are interchangeable by sound, as are F and V) > > Pittroff: Bavarian/Auatrian see Bitterolf. A Meinhardus filius Pitrolft > (son of Pitrolfus) in Austria on the Ems as early as 1220. The name means > nothing less than "bitter" (a bitter or shart-tongued person) expanded by > means of > the personal ending -olf. > > Maureen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Ruth... I did find that information and that is our family, but that is ALL I can find.. : ( -Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" <ppokorny@new.rr.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] PITTROFF Name Origin? > Stephanie, > > You did not give the first name of your great-grandfather, so I don't know > if this is the right family or not in the 1900 and 1930 census. But, if it > is, you might want to look for a marriage record of him and his wife > Barbara, circa 1894, possibly in Passaic County, New Jersey. The name of > the > husband in the 1900 census was indexed as Denard, but on the actual > record, > it looks like Benard. The name of the husband in the 1930 census was > indexed > as Mariana, and on the actual record, it also looks like Mariana, but was > a > male, with wife Barbara. I am sure that this is the same family in both > census. I couldn't find them in 1910 and 1920. > > I would check for a marriage record because if the immigration years are > correct for both persons, 1892 for Benard/Mariana, and 1891 for Barbara, > then they most likely married here in the U.S. > > I would also check for immigration papers for Benard/Mariana. Even if he > didn't become naturalized (final papers), he may have started the > naturalization process with his declaration of intent (1st papers), and > petition for naturalization (2nd papers). These 2 papers would hold the > most > genealogical information. In the 1900 census, Benard stated that he had > filed 1st papers, probably in Passaic County. > > Hope this helps, > Ruth Pokorny > ------------- > 1900 census Paterson Ward 6, Passaic County, New Jersey > > Denard (Benard) Pittroff, head, age 39, married 6 years, born January 1861 > Germany, parents born Germany, emigrated 1892, 1st papers > > Parbert (Barbara) Pittroff, wife, age 33, married 6 years, 4 children, 4 > living, born January 1867 Germany, parents born Germany, emigrated 1891 > > Alma C Pittroff, daughter, age 5, born July 1894 New Jersey, parents born > Germany > > Annie P Pittroff, daughter, age 3, born February 1897 New Jersey, parents > born Germany > > William P Pittroff, son, age 1, born July 1899 New Jersey, parents born > Germany > > Ellise Pittroff, daughter, age 1 month, born May 1900 New Jersey, parents > born Germany > ---------- > 1930 census Totowa, Passaic County, New Jersey > > Mariana Pittroff, head, age 69, married age 32, born abt 1861 Germany, > parents born Germany, emigrated 1892 > > Barbara Pittroff, wife, age 63, married age 28, born abt 1867 Germany, > parents born Germany, emigrated 1891 > > William Pittroff, son, age 31, born abt 1899 New Jersey, parents born > Germany > > Elsie Pittroff, daughter, age 29, born abt 1901 New Jersey, parents born > Germany > > Martha Pittroff, daughter, age 26, born abt 1904 New Jersey, parents born > Germany > > George Pittroff, son, age 24, born abt 1906 New Jersey, parents born > Germany > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kathy Here is one record tat may match ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- JOHANNES SCHEIDT Male Family ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriages: Spouse: ELISABETHA BENZ Family Marriage: 14 FEB 1837 Evangelisch Reformierte Kirche, Barbelroth, Pfalz, Bayern Karl Roussin =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merrill and Kathy" <mjdude@easilink.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:43 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Locating my gg grandfathers homeland. > I am trying to located the orgin of my Prussian GG Grandparents. > John (Shite) Scheidt was born in about 1812 in what I believe is Hesse-Nassau... > His wife's name was Elizabeth...She was born about 1814. > They had their first two children in Hesse-Nassau. > Wilhelmina was born in 1840, Willhelm was born in 1845. > To my knowledge, they were Catholics. > They immigrated to the USA somewhere between 1845 and 1850 and settled in Missouri. When they first came to the United States they went by Shite, this was later changed to Scheidt. > > I have exhausted all ideas of how search any further so any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you > Kathy Adams > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message