all persons named BORCHARD u.ä.,  insbesondere Gutsbesitzer, Gutspächter FREITAG, FREYTAG, FRITAK, VRIDACH u.ä. , auch PIONTEK GOLZ, GOLTZ GÜNTERBERG(ER) KONITZER, CONITZER KOTTKE, KOTKE RADDE, RADE, RAD(T)KE ZIEGENHAGEN before 1900. I will reply any comment soonest. Schöne Grüsse aus unserer Universitätsstadt Göttingen Reinhard J. Freytag genealogie@freytag-immo.de

I have some notes on Zieganhagen in Rosenfelde / Peterswalde area... T Borns Missouri USA Ellanor Phillips <elle@butler-bremer.com> wrote: I have a Catharine Marie Frietag born 3 April 1766 and died 31 Dec 1832. She married Cord Heinrich Nordmann or Nordman, he was born 23 March 1813 in Schessinghausen. I'm looking for Catharine Frietag's parents and siblings in Prussia. Thanks all persons named BORCHARD u.ä., insbesondere Gutsbesitzer, Gutspächter FREITAG, FREYTAG, FRITAK, VRIDACH u.ä. , auch PIONTEK GOLZ, GOLTZ GÜNTERBERG(ER) KONITZER, CONITZER KOTTKE, KOTKE RADDE, RADE, RAD(T)KE ZIEGENHAGEN before 1900. I will reply any comment soonest. Schöne Grüsse aus unserer Universitätsstadt Göttingen Reinhard J. Freytag genealogie@freytag-immo.de ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, Can anyone tell me where or who I should contact for the the Civil Records for the town Wissulke, West Prussia (now Wiesiolka, PL)? I have seen a number of references on the Internet to such a records office but I am in the dark as how to proceed. Thank you, Bette

I have a Catharine Marie Frietag born 3 April 1766 and died 31 Dec 1832. She married Cord Heinrich Nordmann or Nordman, he was born 23 March 1813 in Schessinghausen. I'm looking for Catharine Frietag's parents and siblings in Prussia. Thanks all persons named BORCHARD u.ä.,  insbesondere Gutsbesitzer, Gutspächter FREITAG, FREYTAG, FRITAK, VRIDACH u.ä. , auch PIONTEK GOLZ, GOLTZ GÜNTERBERG(ER) KONITZER, CONITZER KOTTKE, KOTKE RADDE, RADE, RAD(T)KE ZIEGENHAGEN before 1900. I will reply any comment soonest. Schöne Grüsse aus unserer Universitätsstadt Göttingen Reinhard J. Freytag genealogie@freytag-immo.de ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just found a couple of messages on the Rootsweb message boards posted by "Vicki" in regard to her gggpa Stanislaw Sobiechowski who live in Chicago after he immigrated. I can provide her info on that family if she is out there and will contact me. Anettka

In my own tree files, I enter the what would have been appropriate during the time of immigration of my target individual(s). Unfortunately, each province has gone through a bevy of changes both in land area and names not including the government in control. This can be a mind bending experience to put it mildly. Very difficult at times!! Regards, Robert Lipprandt =================== Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Oestrich (Östrich), Wiesbaden, Mainz Hello, My ancestors came from the village of Oestrich (Östrich), which is located about 10 miles Southwest of Wiesbaden, and about 10 miles West (just a tad Northwest) of Mainz. The family was living here from the late 1600's to mid 1800's. I want to enter the location of Oestrich, Östrich into my genealogy program, but don't know how to phrase it. According to Wikipedia, Wiesbaden is in the State of Hessen, Germany According to Wikipedia, Mainz is in the State of Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany What should I enter? Was it formerly Hessen, and now Rhineland-Palatinate? What Kreis (county) would it be in then and now? Would it be Kreis Rheingau back then? Thanks so much, Ruth Pokorny ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert, Thanks for your input. I also like to enter what has been appropriate at the time of the birth, etc. But, I also like to enter what it is today. From what I found, and from what info I received from someone else, I plan on writing it this way, at least until I find a better way. Ruth Pokorny Oestrich (Östrich), Kreis Rheingau, Hessen-Nassau, Preußen, (Now Hessen State), Germany Ruth

Hello, My ancestors came from the village of Oestrich (Östrich), which is located about 10 miles Southwest of Wiesbaden, and about 10 miles West (just a tad Northwest) of Mainz. The family was living here from the late 1600's to mid 1800's. I want to enter the location of Oestrich, Östrich into my genealogy program, but don't know how to phrase it. According to Wikipedia, Wiesbaden is in the State of Hessen, Germany According to Wikipedia, Mainz is in the State of Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany What should I enter? Was it formerly Hessen, and now Rhineland-Palatinate? What Kreis (county) would it be in then and now? Would it be Kreis Rheingau back then? Thanks so much, Ruth Pokorny

Hi Sandy, I think (maybe?) you should pursue your Reinhard family in the Nassau area. My Zeutzius family came from a village called Oestrich, near Mainz, near the Rhein. This area was also located in the "Dukedom of Nassau" and/or "Kingdom of Saxony". Anybody, please jump in and correct me if I am wrong, or if you have more to add. >From what I found on the Wikipedia website: "During the next centuries several states named Nassau emerged. One of those counties was Nassau-Dillenburg, from where the House of Orange-Nassau originated" Sandy, you mentioned in one of your messages: "grandfather of the above siblings was a Johann Chrisitan Reinhard born in 1730 in Dillingburg" So maybe Nassau-Dillenburg and the Dillingburg you mentioned were the same area? Hope this helps, Ruth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Nassau Nassau (state) >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Duchy of Nassau) Jump to: navigation, search For other uses, see Nassau (disambiguation). Nassau was a German state within the Holy Roman Empire and later in the German Confederation. Its ruling dynasty, now extinct in male line, has been the House of Nassau. Nassau, originally a county, emerged on the lower Lahn river in what is today Rhineland-Palatinate. The town of Nassau was founded in 915. The castle of Nassau was built in 1125, and since 1160 the county was named after the town where the castle was located. In 1255 Nassau was divided for the first time. During the next centuries several states named Nassau emerged. One of those counties was Nassau-Dillenburg, from where the House of Orange-Nassau originated. Another was Nassau-Weilburg, whose reigning house now reigns in Luxembourg. Due to the extinction of most lines, Nassau became a united duchy again in 1806. In 1866 it was annexed by Prussia and incorporated into the Province of Hesse-Nassau. Today, all Houses of Nassau are extinct in their original male line. [edit] See also List of rulers of Nassau House of Nassau House of Orange-Nassau House of Nassau-Weilburg House of Nassau-Siegen Nassau Family Pact [edit] External links (German) History of Nassau-Siegen Map of Nassau in 1789

Here's some more info on Susanna, and possibly her brother Willliam. Hope this helps, Ruth --------------- 1870 US Census Milwaukee Ward 9, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Henry Goerge, age 47, born abt 1823 Nassau Male Susanna Goerge, age 47, born abt 1823 Nassau Female William Goerge, age 16, born abt 1854 Wisconsin Male Charles Goerge, age 14, born abt 1856 Wisconsin Male Victor Goerge, age 11, born abt 1859 Wisconsin Male Otto Goerge, age 9, born abt 1861 Wisconsin Male ------------ 1880 US Census Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Henry George, head, age 57, born abt 1823 Nassau, parents born Nassau, Occupation: Confectioner Susan George, wife, age 58, born abt 1822 Nassau, parents born Nassau, Occupation: Keeping House Victor George, son, age 21, born abt 1859 Wisconsin, parents born Nassau, Occupation: Photographer Charles George, son, age 25, born abt 1855 Wisconsin, parents born Nassau, Occupation:Painter Otto George, son, age 19, born abt 1861 Wisconsin, parents born Nassau, Occupation: Jeweler ------------ 1880 US Census Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Wm. V. George, age 27, born abt 1853 Wisconsin, parents born Prussia (Something other than a direct relationship) Theresa George, wife, age 22, born abt 1858 Wisconsin, parents born Prussia Ella George, daughter, age 3, born abt 1877 Wisconsin, parents born Wisconsin ------------ I don't know if this is your William Jr...... 1860 US Census Milwaukee Ward 2, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin William Reinhart, age 30, born abt 1820 Nassau Mary Reinhart, age 26, born abt 1824 Baden Josephene Reinhart, age 4 months, born abt 1850 Wisconsin Peter Krom Milwaukee, age 25, born abt 1825 Nassau

Hi Sandy, Maybe this will help a little, Ruth ----------- familysearch.org IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Susanna Reinhard Female Family Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: William Reinhard Family Mother: Maria Catharina Thomas Marriages: Spouse: Heinrich P. Georg Family Marriage: 07 SEP 1852 , Milwaukee, Wisconsin ------------- 1860 US Census Milwaukee Ward 7, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Henry George, age 37, born abt 1823 Nassau Male Susannah George, age 37, born abt 1823 Nassau Female William George, age 6, born abt 1854 Wisconsin Male Charles George, age 5, born abt 1855 Wisconsin Male Victor George, age 1, born abt 1859 Wisconsin Male Adolph George, age 16, born abt 1844 Preußen Male William George, age 27, born abt 1833 Nassau Male

Sandy Do You have any approximate birth dates ?. There are probably a lot of REINHARD names , and it would be a guess at which is which Karl Roussin ==================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "sandy mcclay" <sanjos333@yahoo.com> To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Reinhard > Hello, I had posted a note in regards to my maternal grandmother's line, the Reinhards. I have a letter that states that a William Christian Reinhard and his family (Susanna Josephine, Wilhelmine, Catherine Fredericke, Victor Adolf and Carl Wilhelm) came over to America from Germany in 1852. His first born son, William Christian (also) came over in 1841, I have the info on the William that came in 1841 but not his father, or mother (Maria Catharina Thomas) . I have found all of the siblings and know where they ended up....According to the letter Wiliiam Christian (Sr, if you will) ended up living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I show his children in New Berlin in the late 1800's. Thanks to birth and marriage records from an old church. ANY help in finding the parents would be greatly appreciated...according to the same letter, the grandfather of the above siblings was a Johann Chrisitan Reinhard born in 1730 in Dillingburg. I really could use some help....thank you very > much! Sandy > > > Sandy > > > --------------------------------- > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. I don't know if that town is in Germany or not but this is the website for an online German phone book -- if it's any help. There are several Gruczas listed, but not in either of the towns you mention. http://www3.dastelefonbuch.de/ Perhaps that will be some help.... Nancy M.

And through New Orleans. Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN LLIJGRAM@aol.com wrote: >I have had success in finding passenger list via my local library where I >can access Ancestry.com Library version. Also be sure you are checking not >just New York as port of entry. Many immigrants during that time period entered >the U.S. via Baltimore. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello, I had posted a note in regards to my maternal grandmother's line, the Reinhards. I have a letter that states that a William Christian Reinhard and his family (Susanna Josephine, Wilhelmine, Catherine Fredericke, Victor Adolf and Carl Wilhelm) came over to America from Germany in 1852. His first born son, William Christian (also) came over in 1841, I have the info on the William that came in 1841 but not his father, or mother (Maria Catharina Thomas) . I have found all of the siblings and know where they ended up....According to the letter Wiliiam Christian (Sr, if you will) ended up living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I show his children in New Berlin in the late 1800's. Thanks to birth and marriage records from an old church. ANY help in finding the parents would be greatly appreciated...according to the same letter, the grandfather of the above siblings was a Johann Chrisitan Reinhard born in 1730 in Dillingburg. I really could use some help....thank you very much! Sandy Sandy --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.

I have had success in finding passenger list via my local library where I can access Ancestry.com Library version. Also be sure you are checking not just New York as port of entry. Many immigrants during that time period entered the U.S. via Baltimore.

is there anyway to have someone look up the last name Grucza in a phone book in the Pelplin area? my ancestors came from a small village named Getomie near Pelplin in the 1880's. all contact with the Grucza's in Europe has been lost. since it is not a common last name, i was hoping that any individuals in the area with that surname might be somehow related. Lucia _GkneeoloG@aol.com_ (mailto:GkneeoloG@aol.com)

Hello. I'm new to the list and hoping someone might be able to help me. Someone on another list suggested I join this list and ask my questions. My ggrandfather, Heinrich Carl Meinzen, emigrated from Prussia/Hanover in 1866 and arrived in the U.S. in June of that same year. I have been unable to find him on a passenger list, though I have found a man named Ernst Meinzen who has the same age, occupation, and date of arrival. I don't know if they are the same man or not. Does anyone know whether individuals leaving Prussia needed paperwork or passports to leave the country during this time period? I've heard conflicting information. If there are emigration records, does anyone know where they can be found? I have more questions but will post them individually to make it easier for those who may respond. Thank you for any help you can give.

Oh thank you sue DTherkilds@aol.com wrote: > Sue, > > Sorry, I didn't say which name. Czyzjewski is the one I saw. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan With all of those names Check out http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp or http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ just fill out the blanks and click " search ", or " go ". There are a lot of records in those links. Karl Roussin ==================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Squires" <Susan.Squires@sun.com> To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Advice on Narrowing Down the location in WestPrussia Dear Group I have been a member of this group for sometime but have never posted a request before. I have been most impressed not only with the collective knowledge of this group but with the willingness of its members to share. From the advice and links provided by the group members I have been able to locate the possible location in West Prussia from which my ancestors migrated. Now I have hit a road block and am hoping for some advice. Background: The Family names I am researching: Ciezewski/Czyzjewski (and variants) – given names of (I believe siblings) Marian (1845 -?) (my great-great grandfather), Anton (1830) (married Catherine Komiski), John (married Eva Sange), Agnes (who married John Bendyk) Rutkowski Franceska (1948-1901) my great-great grandmother Jan (born abt 1827) (possibly her Father, Marie his wife), Jan R (born about 1857) (possibly her brother) Passenger records from Baltimore indicate they traveled from Bremen They settled in St. Louis. I have extensive records on this family in the US but am having trouble connecting to the location in West Prussia. St. Louis Catholic Church records indicate that My great-grandmother, Veronica Czyzjewski was born in Marienwerder now Kwidzyn. This is both a city and a province. Her sister, Bronislawa, was born in Skarlin Franceska, their mother, my great-great grandmother, was born in Peterwice. The Problem From the Shetlseeker site (recommended from one of this group) I have discovered that the City of Marienwerder is about 15 miles from Skarlin. So I thought that maybe my relatives came from the province of Marianwerder. However Skarlin is in Skarlin Province. Then there are no Peterwice. There is a town once called Gross Peterwitz within 15 miles of Marienwerder City. FamilySearch.org has not been of help in locating the any of the above. I am confused as to how to tackle this problem. I had expected to find one place from which my family came. But it is apparently not the case although I can not believe that they moved around that much! And with such distances between locations! Does anyone on this list know the region and could give me some help sorting all this out. I would also appreciate any advice on which records to search. Thank you for any help provided Sue Squires ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message