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    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] ca 1850s, East Prussia
    2. Jane, It would very much appreciated if you could find records of the Rohs/Ross in the microfilm you mentioned. Thanks in advance Arnold Otto Ross <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

    03/02/2007 03:44:58
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] New poster - BOES, ROSELLEN (ROSELLA) - SCHOENEN
    2. ~~C
    3. Hi there, I am looking for information about the places as well as the people, Rather than try to list them in a geneological format I will just list the names, dob and place of birth of the direct ancestors. I will not list the children to make this shorter. If you have possible links I can check the rest of the names. BENDER Sybilla Sophia - possible wife of Adoni Boes BOES Adam b 15 Oct 1824 - Koln, Rheinland, Germany these are twins and the latter is the most likely the correct birthplace. Michael (twins) b 15 Oct 1824 - Gohr, Kries Crefeld Rhine Prussia FREYENBERG Marie Catherine b apx 1779 FUSSER Gertrud apx 1780 - ROSELLEN - ROSELLA Anna Gertrude b 21 Dec 1832 - Lank, Kries Crefeld Rhine Prussia Herman b 19 Oct 1799 - Ramrath, Kn, Rheinland Wilhelm b apx 1877 SCHOENEN Catherine b apx 1800 - Ramrath, Kn, Rheinland Heinrich b apx 1778 Adoni - possible father PLACES OF INTEREST Gohr, Kries Crefeld Rhine Prussia Lank, Kries Crefeld Rhine Prussia Are these places updated names for places that were Prussia at the time? Koln, Rheinland, Germany Ramrath, Kn, Rheinland --- ~~C It's realy very simple, your life is now.

    03/02/2007 01:20:16
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Ann Francesconi
    3. There are many, many, many FHC in Georgia. I believe I counted over 40. Have you looked on the site www.familysearch.org? There is a link there which will allow you to search for you closest FHC. Ann -------Original Message------- From: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Date: 03/02/07 17:19:08 To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin I don't have an FHC near me. I live in Central GA Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:29 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan Check out that LDS film and view the film at the FHC library. Karl Roussin =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Thanks Karl. That's the only reference I have as well. I don't know where to go from there. Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan M. Hinners Did not find Your Albert L. Zuromski. The only entry that I could find is as follows; Husband Adam Zuromski Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: Wife Anna Chelmowska Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: There is one place listed in the LDS microfims , for the town of BRUSS as follows; Bruß Germany, Preußen, Westpreußen, Bruß Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert > Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the > Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family > originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I > know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the > same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info > and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration > and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. > > I am in definite need of help. > > Thank you for your time. > > Shannan M Hinners > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 10:29:59
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC
    3. I don't have an FHC near me. I live in Central GA Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:29 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan Check out that LDS film and view the film at the FHC library. Karl Roussin =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Thanks Karl. That's the only reference I have as well. I don't know where to go from there. Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan M. Hinners Did not find Your Albert L. Zuromski. The only entry that I could find is as follows; Husband Adam Zuromski Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: Wife Anna Chelmowska Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: There is one place listed in the LDS microfims , for the town of BRUSS as follows; Bruß Germany, Preußen, Westpreußen, Bruß Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert > Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the > Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family > originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I > know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the > same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info > and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration > and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. > > I am in definite need of help. > > Thank you for your time. > > Shannan M Hinners > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 10:16:46
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Karl Roussin
    3. Shannan M. Hinners Check out the following link , to find the addresses of the FHC libraries. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp There are 44 in GA. Karl Roussin ============================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin I don't have an FHC near me. I live in Central GA Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:29 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan Check out that LDS film and view the film at the FHC library. Karl Roussin =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Thanks Karl. That's the only reference I have as well. I don't know where to go from there. Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan M. Hinners Did not find Your Albert L. Zuromski. The only entry that I could find is as follows; Husband Adam Zuromski Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: Wife Anna Chelmowska Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: There is one place listed in the LDS microfims , for the town of BRUSS as follows; Bruß Germany, Preußen, Westpreußen, Bruß Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert > Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the > Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family > originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I > know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the > same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info > and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration > and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. > > I am in definite need of help. > > Thank you for your time. > > Shannan M Hinners > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 09:35:42
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Myron E. Williams
    3. Hard to believe; there are 44 centers listed in Georgia. Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC wrote: > I don't have an FHC near me. I live in Central GA > > > Shannan M Hinners > > -----Original Message----- > From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:29 PM > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > > Shannan > Check out that LDS film and view the film at the FHC library. > > Karl Roussin > >

    03/02/2007 09:28:52
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Karl Roussin
    3. Shannan Check out that LDS film and view the film at the FHC library. Karl Roussin =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Thanks Karl. That's the only reference I have as well. I don't know where to go from there. Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan M. Hinners Did not find Your Albert L. Zuromski. The only entry that I could find is as follows; Husband Adam Zuromski Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: Wife Anna Chelmowska Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: There is one place listed in the LDS microfims , for the town of BRUSS as follows; Bruß Germany, Preußen, Westpreußen, Bruß Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert > Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the > Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family > originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I > know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the > same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info > and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration > and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. > > I am in definite need of help. > > Thank you for your time. > > Shannan M Hinners > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 08:29:15
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] DORN, 1864-1870, Coswig, Anhalt
    2. Karl Roussin
    3. Dashmom There are cesus record of the town of Coswig , up to 1866 , in the microfilms. Check out the film numbers, as follows; Title Untertanen, Volkszählungen, Bevölkerungsliste, Bürgerliste 1798-1866 Authors Coswig (Kr. Zerbst, Anhalt). Stadtrath (Main Author) Note Location Film Vereidigung gemeldeter Untertanen 1801-1866 FHL INTL Film 1675977 Item 6 Volkszählungen 1798, 1805, 1818, 1827, 1830, 1833, 1834 FHL INTL Film 1675982 Items 7 - 12 Volkszählungen 1836, 1837, 1840, 1843, 1846 -- Bevölkerungsliste 1849 -- Volkszählung 1849 -- Bürgerliste 1835 -- Volkszählungen 1852, 1855, 1858 VAULT INTL Film 1675983 Items 1 - 8 Karl Roussin ====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dashmom@aol.com> To: <Prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] DORN, 1864-1870, Coswig, Anhalt > Does anyone have any sources for records in Coswig, or perhaps a German > archive that might contain birth records for the DORN family? I've been searching > for *years* for some official records and have only the marriage certificate > for Louis DORN and Louise KIRNER so far. I've never been able to find them on > the familysearch site, even with exact dates. Louis and Marie came to the > U.S. in 1891, Wilhelm stayed in Germany. Any help is greatly appreciated! > > Dianne > * * * * * * * * * > Generation No. 1 > > 1. WILLIAM1 DORN > > Children of WILLIAM DORN are: > 2. i. WIHELM2 DORN. > 3. ii. LOUIS HERMAN DORN, b. July 02, 1866, Coswig, Anhalt, Germany; d. > April 25, 1930, Phila., PA. > 4. iii. MARIE DORN, b. February 07, 1870, Germany; d. May 1959, > Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. WIHELM2 DORN (WILLIAM1) He married HERMINE. > > Children of WIHELM DORN and HERMINE are: > i. ANNA3 DORN. > 5. ii. FRIEDA DORN. > > 3. LOUIS HERMAN2 DORN (WILLIAM1) was born July 02, 1866 in Coswig,Anhalt, > Germany, and died April 25, 1930 in Phila., PA. He married LOUISE FREDERIKA > KIRNER March 17, 1889 in Coswig, Germany1, daughter of MARIE ROSINE KIRNER. She > was born May 13, 1864 in Tubingen, Wurttemberg, Germany, and died May 29, > 1942 in Phila., PA2. > > 4. MARIE2 DORN (WILLIAM1) was born February 07, 1870 in Germany, and died > May 1959 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married CHARLES A. > GUTMAN [also spelled Guttman, or Gutmann] September 13, 1892 in > Philadelphia,Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He was born August 24, 1851 in Germany, and died > 1916 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA. > > > 1. Marriage certificate - copy in my possession. > 2. Funeral Card, Barrett's Funeral Home, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. > 3. Funeral Card, Harold B. Mulligan, Co., Inc. . > 4. pA. VR > 5. Marriage certificate, Phila.,PA. #669457. > > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 08:26:50
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC
    3. Thanks Karl. That's the only reference I have as well. I don't know where to go from there. Shannan M Hinners -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin Shannan M. Hinners Did not find Your Albert L. Zuromski. The only entry that I could find is as follows; Husband Adam Zuromski Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: Wife Anna Chelmowska Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: There is one place listed in the LDS microfims , for the town of BRUSS as follows; Bruß Germany, Preußen, Westpreußen, Bruß Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert > Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the > Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family > originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I > know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the > same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info > and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration > and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. > > I am in definite need of help. > > Thank you for your time. > > Shannan M Hinners > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 06:13:29
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] DORN, 1864-1870, Coswig, Anhalt
    2. Does anyone have any sources for records in Coswig, or perhaps a German archive that might contain birth records for the DORN family? I've been searching for *years* for some official records and have only the marriage certificate for Louis DORN and Louise KIRNER so far. I've never been able to find them on the familysearch site, even with exact dates. Louis and Marie came to the U.S. in 1891, Wilhelm stayed in Germany. Any help is greatly appreciated! Dianne * * * * * * * * * Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 DORN Children of WILLIAM DORN are: 2. i. WIHELM2 DORN. 3. ii. LOUIS HERMAN DORN, b. July 02, 1866, Coswig, Anhalt, Germany; d. April 25, 1930, Phila., PA. 4. iii. MARIE DORN, b. February 07, 1870, Germany; d. May 1959, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Generation No. 2 2. WIHELM2 DORN (WILLIAM1) He married HERMINE. Children of WIHELM DORN and HERMINE are: i. ANNA3 DORN. 5. ii. FRIEDA DORN. 3. LOUIS HERMAN2 DORN (WILLIAM1) was born July 02, 1866 in Coswig,Anhalt, Germany, and died April 25, 1930 in Phila., PA. He married LOUISE FREDERIKA KIRNER March 17, 1889 in Coswig, Germany1, daughter of MARIE ROSINE KIRNER. She was born May 13, 1864 in Tubingen, Wurttemberg, Germany, and died May 29, 1942 in Phila., PA2. 4. MARIE2 DORN (WILLIAM1) was born February 07, 1870 in Germany, and died May 1959 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married CHARLES A. GUTMAN [also spelled Guttman, or Gutmann] September 13, 1892 in Philadelphia,Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He was born August 24, 1851 in Germany, and died 1916 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA. 1. Marriage certificate - copy in my possession. 2. Funeral Card, Barrett's Funeral Home, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 3. Funeral Card, Harold B. Mulligan, Co., Inc. . 4. pA. VR 5. Marriage certificate, Phila.,PA. #669457. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

    03/02/2007 04:58:40
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Karl Roussin
    3. Shannan M. Hinners Did not find Your Albert L. Zuromski. The only entry that I could find is as follows; Husband Adam Zuromski Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: Wife Anna Chelmowska Birth: Christening: Marriage: 1692 Bruss, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: There is one place listed in the LDS microfims , for the town of BRUSS as follows; Bruß Germany, Preußen, Westpreußen, Bruß Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC" <Shannan.Hinners@robins.af.mil> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin > I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert > Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the > Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family > originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I > know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the > same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info > and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration > and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. > > I am in definite need of help. > > Thank you for your time. > > Shannan M Hinners > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/02/2007 02:33:57
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Relatives in Zuromin
    2. Hinners, Shannan M Civ 573 ACSS/GFLDC
    3. I'm having a hard time with this. My great great grandfather Albert Leonard Zuromski is from West Prussia. I know there were family in the Brusy area as well but I know from my maiden surname that the family originated in Zuromin. I don't have Albert's father's name nor do I know the surname for Albert's wife Anna, but they both came from the same area...I've basically hit a brick wall. I have their census info and photos, and know that they settled in Baltimore, but for immigration and naturalization, I have yet to locate them, but am on the hunt. I am in definite need of help. Thank you for your time. Shannan M Hinners

    03/02/2007 02:29:35
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Records price may raise from 37.00 to 125.00
    2. michael
    3. On what basis would you object to this price increase? I presume that NARA has calculated that they are losing money on each pension file retrieved and copied. Keep in mind that most German archives charge 1 Euro per page plus a handling fee. I am not necessarily for the price increase but on the other hand I believe that fees for special government services must cover the cost of providing special services requested by individuals. - Michael On Mar 1, 2007, at 7:15 PM, prussia-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:26:07 -0800 (PST) > From: ~~C <c_lion@purringfox.com> > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Records price may raise from 37.00 to 125.00 > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <722369.31890.qm@web32615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I can see a raise in prices, but from $37.00 to $125.00? > > On the NARA pension records price increase from $37 to $125, comments > to the proposed rule may be posted online by April 27, 2007. > Go to: http://www.regulations.gov > In the search box, type "NARA Reproduction Fees." The Proposed Rules > and the Rules will come up. > You can click on the text to read them. > Then click on the yellow emblem by the first line - Proposed Rules - > and fill out your name, zip code, etc., and make your comment. > I would think legislators should be contacted also. > Perhaps NGS/FGS will be leading an effort. > Thanks. Tom Neel, OGS Library Director

    03/02/2007 01:36:49
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns - 2
    2. LGO
    3. -----Original Message----- >From: Wes Ward <wildwes27@hotmail.com> > >I am looking for the town where my ancestor John Henry Schubert, a.k.a. >Henry Schubert, was born. He was born in June 1835. -------------------------Snip------------------------- >John Henry Schubert was the son of Ferdinand Lukas Schubert (the brother of >the famous composer Franz Peter Schubert) and Johanna Von Weipking. -------------------------Snip------------------------- Wes, I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's apparently in serious error. A simple Google search revealed much different data. Ferdinand Lukas Schubert was born in and lived in Austria (same as brother Franz Peter Schubert), not Prussia. His wife's name was Anna Maria Schülle, not Johanna Von Weipking. Additionally, they had no children after 1831 (Anna died in 1831) and had no child whose name is close to "John Henry Schubert." See the following link (the second Family Group on the page) . . . http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/franzschubert/tree/gp50.htm While virtually nothing on-line can be used as proof of relationship for genealogy, on-line data is good for clues. However, in this case the clues lead to the conclusion that you have received poor information. I suggest you start researching your roots by working from the known to the unknown, one generation at a time using primary evidence. Locales of European origins are almost always found in the records of the immigrant's new country. It's a tremendous long shot to look for origins in the old country without this information. Good luck, LGO

    03/01/2007 03:34:30
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns - 2
    2. Detlef Ziemann
    3. Hi Wes, > They departed from Southampton, Bremen, Germany... no, shurely not! They may have started in Bremen (which is in Germany) and went VIA Southampton (which is in Great Britain) to NY. What about the american atlases? No Old Europe in there? Strange. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / kind regards Detlef Ziemann Meine Ahnen und ich / my ancestors and me: http://www.dziemann.de

    03/01/2007 03:17:03
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns - 2
    2. Wes Ward
    3. Hello everyone I am looking for the town where my ancestor John Henry Schubert, a.k.a. Henry Schubert, was born. He was born in June 1835. He came to America and worked for a few years, then he returned to Prussia to get married. After he was married he and his wife Sidona Anna (Dich) Schubert came back to America. They departed from Southampton, Bremen, Germany and arrived in New York, New York on June 5, 1867. They then traveled to Plumas County, California where they made their home. John Henry Schubert was the son of Ferdinand Lukas Schubert (the brother of the famous composer Franz Peter Schubert) and Johanna Von Weipking. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help. Wes _________________________________________________________________ Rates near 39yr lows! $430K Loan for $1,399/mo - Paying Too Much? Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18226&moid=7581

    03/01/2007 01:45:25
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] ca 1850s, East Prussia
    2. jmc
    3. Arnold You may already be aware of this but just in case. The FHL film 1496970 has parish register transcripts of births, marriages and deaths for Battrow, Westpreussen, Germany; now Batorowo, Koszalin, Poland; an affiliate of Grunau parish --- Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1798-1874. I have the film on indefnite loan and if you'd like I could see if the marriage in 1844 is there before you order the film? Jane West Fargo, ND On 2/28/07, ARoss14573@aol.com <ARoss14573@aol.com> wrote: > > T. Borns, > In what Kreis are the cities that you believe Rohs (Ross) came from? I > can trace my ancestory with the last name of Rohs up to the mid 1800's > and my > ancestors then changed it to Ross. > I am looking for the children of Michael Rohs, born in Battrow, Kreis > Flatow and was married to Karoline W. Roeding on 9 Jan 1844 in > Battrow. I > would also like info on the parents of Michael Rohs. Mainly trying to > get paper > work for verification. > Believe that one of the children was August Albert Rohs(Ross) born > Nov. > 1850 in Battrow and married Wilhelmine Gerth. Would like to also verify > that this was a child of Michael and who were the other children? > The village next to Battrow was Linde(now Lipka) and this is where my > father was born and probably there were Rohs/Ross relatives there. Since > the > Germans were moved out of Poland after WWII there are no Rohs/Ross's in > the > area. I have found that my father and 2 aunts did not leave much > information > regarding relatives they left behind when they came to America. > Looking for help from anyone. > I will be going to Germany to visit relatives (in some cases I know > more > genealogy than they do) and wish to visit the records office's in Berlin > and > also the one in Leipzig. Has anyone had experience with these two > offices? > > Arnold Otto Ross > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/01/2007 12:15:03
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Leipzig and Berlin EZA
    2. William Remus
    3. > > I will be going to Germany to visit relatives (in some cases > I know > > more > > genealogy than they do) and wish to visit the records office's > in Berlin > > and > > also the one in Leipzig. Has anyone had experience with these > two > > offices? I have been to Leipzig and the archives. The town has been rebuilt and is a fine place to visit. The tram goes out to the archives which are located in a new building in a new shopping complex. Nice facilites and nice people BUT the Mormons have microfilms almost every churchbook there. In fact, you dont view the church books - but instead look at the microfilms. They do have regular books that are not micorofilmed that are interesting. However, the DDB (German National Library) in Leipzig has a much better selection. Its a wonderful library. But like many european libraries you do not have direct access to the DDB books. but must order them for delivery to your desk several hours later. The Univeristy of Leipzig library is very good too but only on materials about Saxony - not about West Prussia. If you are visiting Battrow with a guide, then consider going to the Catholic Archives in Koslin. There are a few more Battrow church book records there. But you need Polish language and someone who knows the archives to make use of it. I dont know about Berlin. Perhaps someone on this list knows if there are unfilmed records there . Regards Bill Remus

    03/01/2007 09:24:14
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Records price may raise from 37.00 to 125.00
    2. ~~C
    3. I can see a raise in prices, but from $37.00 to $125.00? On the NARA pension records price increase from $37 to $125, comments to the proposed rule may be posted online by April 27, 2007. Go to: http://www.regulations.gov In the search box, type "NARA Reproduction Fees." The Proposed Rules and the Rules will come up. You can click on the text to read them. Then click on the yellow emblem by the first line - Proposed Rules - and fill out your name, zip code, etc., and make your comment. I would think legislators should be contacted also. Perhaps NGS/FGS will be leading an effort. Thanks. Tom Neel, OGS Library Director --- ~~C It's realy very simple, your life is now.

    03/01/2007 08:26:07
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] PRUSSIA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 64
    2. Marlene
    3. I will tell you how I found my great grandparents as they were the first generation in my family to come to the US. On my great grandfather I went to the area where they settled which was Clayton County, IA. I talked to people in the area and was told many Germans who settle there came from Eldena, Mecklenburg, Germany. That was my first hint. Join the Rootsweb list for the area they settled in. You would be surprised how much people know even today. On my great grandmother it was much more difficult. Both had very common surnames so I was not confident I was ever going to find them. My ggrandfather was Meyer and my ggrandmother was Wille. I began looking in Castle Gardens and Ellis Island for their immigration records and found them in Castle Gardens - castlegardens.org. This tells what port they left, what ship they came on and what the date was they landed in the US. My great grandparents were on the same ship but fortunately not married yet. Somewhere I heard that Germans who came around 1872 usually went to Chicago, IL. I knew they were Lutheran so I joined the Cook Co. message board and began to ask questions. There I found out the Lutheran Church downtown had been destroyed in a fire but could contact the Concordia Historical Society in St. Louis for the marriage information. On the marriage information it showed the town each was born in Germany. Many people who came from Prussia left the port of Hamburg. You can go into hamburg.de and pay them to look for your ancestors. On the manifest it will tell the town they came from. I know this costs money but it took me appox 5 years to find my great grandparent's place of orgin so the money might be well worth it to you. Email the Hamburg site (hamburg.de) and ask how much it would cost you. The more you know - the less it costs. Join geneanet.org to see what area in Germany your surnames came from. This is a site similar to Rootsweb in the US. Maybe you will find someone who can help you there if your surname is not common. The National Archives also has ship manifest records if you live close to one. Of course you would need to know when they came to the US. Another thing is it was common for Germans to change the spelling of their last name. My ggrandfather was born Meyer and changed it to Meier around 1905. At first I was only looking for Meier's. Keep an open mind when you are looking for your ancestors. Submit your GEDCOM to Rootsweb and Geneanet. I have had several ancestors living in Norway find me that way. Most people in Europe speak English as it is a second language in school. They are very nice people and will help you. Good luck, Marlene Sioux Falls, SD ----- Original Message ----- From: <prussia-roots-request@rootsweb.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:00 AM Subject: PRUSSIA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 64 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Prussian towns (Wes Ward) > 2. Re: Prussian towns (PiggyNuffNuff@aol.com) > 3. Re: Prussian towns (Detlef Ziemann) > 4. Re: Prussian towns (Spaghettitree@aol.com) > 5. Re: Prussian towns (Myron E. Williams) > 6. Re: Prussian towns (gensearcher@att.net) > 7. Re: ca 1850s, East Prussia (ARoss14573@aol.com) > 8. Re: Prussian towns (Karl Roussin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:41:23 +0000 > From: "Wes Ward" <wildwes27@hotmail.com> > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <BAY111-F65F44C91125A04B55E8AEBD810@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > How would I go about finding what town or city my ancestry came from in > Prussia? > > _________________________________________________________________ > With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few > simple tips. > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:10:40 EST > From: PiggyNuffNuff@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c8e.a5a59f6.331757e0@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > With great difficulty > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:30:04 +0100 > From: Detlef Ziemann <detlef.ziemann@t-online.de> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45E6026C.8070509@t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >> How would I go about finding what town or city my ancestry came from in >> Prussia? > > Shiplists? Naturalisation documents? > > -- > Mit freundlichen Gr??en / kind regards > Detlef Ziemann > Meine Ahnen und ich / my ancestors and me: http://www.dziemann.de > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:31:07 EST > From: Spaghettitree@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c1b.102d4223.33175cab@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Oh c'mon - that's very true, but you start the same way as everywhere else > in > Europe - you scour everything in the United States. There is a very, very > long list of possiblities. Read through these message boards, go to > Cyndislist.com, familysearch.org, if you haven't already. Contact > genealogical > societies where you live or anywhere else in the country - and public > libraries and > university libraries. Tell us who when what you have so far - perhaps > somebody > can point you in the right direction. Every one of us knows a little > something - maybe a lot of something. > > Maureen > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to > everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:32:44 -0600 > From: "Myron E. Williams" <myronwms@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45E61F2C.7040507@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Yes, but absolutely the best source will be church records in the USA > (or whatever country they immigrated to). Ships lists often omit those > details. Naturalization orders often give only the country (or king) > being repudiated. Declarations of intent to naturalize, I'm told, often > contain more detail, but these are often lost. > > Happy Hunting. > > Myron E. Williams > Crossville, TN > > > Detlef Ziemann wrote: >>> How would I go about finding what town or city my ancestry came from in >>> Prussia? >>> >> >> Shiplists? Naturalisation documents? >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:37:43 +0000 > From: gensearcher@att.net > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com, PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <030120070037.21421.45E6205600021F67000053AD21603760219D0A080C9D0E0A9C020A09@att.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hello Wes: I have found the best sources are not the readily available > documents such as immigration/naturalization, etc., but instead the more > obcure places such as in the records of the church the ancestor attended > here in the US or in county histories or in probate records. Sometimes > the records of the other children of the ancestor will give a place. > Sheila K. > > -------------- Original message from "Wes Ward" > <wildwes27@hotmail.com>: -------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:27:25 EST > From: ARoss14573@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] ca 1850s, East Prussia > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d59.35dee83.3317a21d@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > T. Borns, > In what Kreis are the cities that you believe Rohs (Ross) came from? I > can trace my ancestory with the last name of Rohs up to the mid 1800's > and my > ancestors then changed it to Ross. > I am looking for the children of Michael Rohs, born in Battrow, Kreis > Flatow and was married to Karoline W. Roeding on 9 Jan 1844 in Battrow. > I > would also like info on the parents of Michael Rohs. Mainly trying to > get paper > work for verification. > Believe that one of the children was August Albert Rohs(Ross) born > Nov. > 1850 in Battrow and married Wilhelmine Gerth. Would like to also verify > that this was a child of Michael and who were the other children? > The village next to Battrow was Linde(now Lipka) and this is where my > father was born and probably there were Rohs/Ross relatives there. Since > the > Germans were moved out of Poland after WWII there are no Rohs/Ross's in > the > area. I have found that my father and 2 aunts did not leave much > information > regarding relatives they left behind when they came to America. > Looking for help from anyone. > I will be going to Germany to visit relatives (in some cases I know > more > genealogy than they do) and wish to visit the records office's in Berlin > and > also the one in Leipzig. Has anyone had experience with these two > offices? > > Arnold Otto Ross > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:02:01 -0600 > From: "Karl Roussin" <kroussin@fidnet.com> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00af01c75bbe$c0773460$a788fb40@kroussin> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wes > Send in His full name and date of birth , someone may be able to find a > record of Him. > If You know His middle name , send that in too. > Karl Roussin > ================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wes Ward" <wildwes27@hotmail.com> > To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:41 PM > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian towns > > >> How would I go about finding what town or city my ancestry came from in >> Prussia? >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few >> simple tips. >> > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRUSSIA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRUSSIA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRUSSIA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 64 > ******************************************** > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 > 3:24 PM > >

    03/01/2007 04:49:19