Emily: Castle Garden is the forerunner of Ellis Island: www.castlegarden.com. Also it's a good possibility that the Ancestry spelling may not be correct. Sheila K.

You can read the messages you missed by going to the Prussia Roots (browse version) archive at Rootsweb.com and scroll down to the April 2009 messages. They are all there. Sheila K.

Hello Emily: If they came through New York in the 1880's try the Castle Garden site. I found my Great Grand Parents there. Daniel Katz --- On Mon, 4/13/09, George Parker & Emily Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > From: George Parker & Emily Phillips <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Worsechs and Kiecker > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 11:43 AM > Hi--My Worsechs and Kiecker came over prior to Ellis Island > (early > 1880s). And I have been using Ancestry--so far with no > results for ship > records/immigration. Perhaps I need to try to follow > up/contact any > Worsechs in U.S. to see if they have info that I don't? > Or even try to > reach some in Germany or Poland? > > Emily > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:05:44 EDT > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] looking for Worsechs and > Kiecker > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > If they came into Ellis Island that site is free > _www.ellisisland.org_ > > (http://www.ellisisland.org) and just run the last > name a lot are spelled > > wrong, so you might have to try different ways. Their > is another site called > > Castle Gardens and that has ship records as well. If > you can find more on > > Ancestry that would be good too. Might want to join > for awhile or go to your > > local library and use their computer. Kathy in NJ > Happy Spring > > > > > > In a message dated 4/11/2009 8:05:27 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Hi--Thank you for your suggestions. I have found my > Worsechs' census > > records in the U.S. and also some naturalization > records (they do not > > specify where in Prussia). I have also checked > familysearch.org, but a > > while back. I will look there again. I have not been > able to find ship > > records thus far, and I know those might list a > specific location. > > Thank you for the hints re spelling. > > > > Kiecker--I am sorry, I don't know if your Otto > Kiecker is related. I > > have no information about Louise > Kiecker/Kitchner's family members or > > ancestors. As far as I know, she came over with her > husband, and I am > > not aware she is related to any of the Kieckers in MN > (but there are > > quite a lot of them!). > > > > Emily Phillips > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Good Morning Ruth: I just got your email, so I guess it has just been very quiet and maybe a lot of people were getting ready for the Holidays and doing Spring Cleaning. Also this week a lot of kids are on Spring Break and most of our friends went away for the week. Enjoy your Spring. Kathy in NJ In a message dated 4/13/2009 3:23:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Everyone, I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. Did I get unsubscribed? Ruth **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035&ncid=e mlcntusdown00000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621489x1201450100/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% 3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62)

Hi--My Worsechs and Kiecker came over prior to Ellis Island (early 1880s). And I have been using Ancestry--so far with no results for ship records/immigration. Perhaps I need to try to follow up/contact any Worsechs in U.S. to see if they have info that I don't? Or even try to reach some in Germany or Poland? Emily > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:05:44 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] looking for Worsechs and Kiecker > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > If they came into Ellis Island that site is free _www.ellisisland.org_ > (http://www.ellisisland.org) and just run the last name a lot are spelled > wrong, so you might have to try different ways. Their is another site called > Castle Gardens and that has ship records as well. If you can find more on > Ancestry that would be good too. Might want to join for awhile or go to your > local library and use their computer. Kathy in NJ Happy Spring > > > In a message dated 4/11/2009 8:05:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi--Thank you for your suggestions. I have found my Worsechs' census > records in the U.S. and also some naturalization records (they do not > specify where in Prussia). I have also checked familysearch.org, but a > while back. I will look there again. I have not been able to find ship > records thus far, and I know those might list a specific location. > Thank you for the hints re spelling. > > Kiecker--I am sorry, I don't know if your Otto Kiecker is related. I > have no information about Louise Kiecker/Kitchner's family members or > ancestors. As far as I know, she came over with her husband, and I am > not aware she is related to any of the Kieckers in MN (but there are > quite a lot of them!). > > Emily Phillips > > > >

There have been messages since March 30. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Where is everyone? > Hi Everyone, > > > I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. Did > I get unsubscribed? > > Ruth > > **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the > web. Get the Radio Toolbar! > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035&ncid=emlcntusdown00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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If they came into Ellis Island that site is free _www.ellisisland.org_ (http://www.ellisisland.org) and just run the last name a lot are spelled wrong, so you might have to try different ways. Their is another site called Castle Gardens and that has ship records as well. If you can find more on Ancestry that would be good too. Might want to join for awhile or go to your local library and use their computer. Kathy in NJ Happy Spring In a message dated 4/11/2009 8:05:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi--Thank you for your suggestions. I have found my Worsechs' census records in the U.S. and also some naturalization records (they do not specify where in Prussia). I have also checked familysearch.org, but a while back. I will look there again. I have not been able to find ship records thus far, and I know those might list a specific location. Thank you for the hints re spelling. Kiecker--I am sorry, I don't know if your Otto Kiecker is related. I have no information about Louise Kiecker/Kitchner's family members or ancestors. As far as I know, she came over with her husband, and I am not aware she is related to any of the Kieckers in MN (but there are quite a lot of them!). Emily Phillips ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572838x1201387489/aol?redir=http :%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)

Hi--Thank you for your suggestions. I have found my Worsechs' census records in the U.S. and also some naturalization records (they do not specify where in Prussia). I have also checked familysearch.org, but a while back. I will look there again. I have not been able to find ship records thus far, and I know those might list a specific location. Thank you for the hints re spelling. Kiecker--I am sorry, I don't know if your Otto Kiecker is related. I have no information about Louise Kiecker/Kitchner's family members or ancestors. As far as I know, she came over with her husband, and I am not aware she is related to any of the Kieckers in MN (but there are quite a lot of them!). Emily Phillips

I am interested in MALLON and RUDOLPH in the Klotzen/Koprieben area. Can someone help me figure out what this document means? http://www.pommerscher-greif.de/service/daten/pdf/Hk_Klotzen.pdf Happy Easter and Many Thanks! Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time.

I have KIECKER marrying into my LUEDKE family. I have Otto Kiecker born 1883 in Glassberg by Sachke, Posen. He listed his parents as Johannes Freidrick Kusko and Paulina Drewanz who were married 1846 in Germany. They settled in Minnesota. Any connection? Mary > [Original Message] > From: George Parker & Emily Phillips <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 4/10/2009 1:41:31 PM > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] looking for Worsechs > > Hi-- > My Worsech ancestors came to the U.S. from Prussia around 1880-82. They > may have come from Stargard--the Gdansk area (currently in Poland), as > one son said he was born there. > > Worsech seems to be an uncommon name--so I am looking for connections to > any other Worsechs. My Worsechs that came over were Wilhelm/William > Worsech (b 1842) and Louise Kiecker/Kitchner (b 1844), and their oldest > children Amelia (b 1871), Gustave (b 1872 Stargard, W. Prussia) , and > William (b 1874). They spoke German, living first in Bethlehem, > Pennsylvania and then in Minnesota. On their death certificates, > Wilhelm's father was listed at Jacob Worsech. Louise's father was > listed as Marvin Kiecker. > > I have no other information about their ancestors in Prussia, or other > specifics there. Looking for any evidence of them over there, or > information about other Worsechs. Any help greatly appreciated! > > Thank you, > Emily Phillips > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, Good Heavens! That is indeed a typo, should be _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) - I had no idea that a place like familyserch even existed, and know nothing about it. That will teach me to proofread my messages! My apologies! Maureen In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:21:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Emily, I hope you have looked at all the Worsech people listed in _www.familyserch.org_ (http://www.familyserch.org) - go to advanced search and enter just the surname Worsech. Of course you know you will have to look in multiple U.S. sources wherever they lived here in order to prove up their birthplace(s) before you go looking in Europe. Many of these are listed in West Prussia. And those sources you need are not always on line - joining a genealogical society is a huge help - there is an excellent one in Minnesota which specializes in Eastern Europe - it is the Minnesota Genealogical Society, Germanic Genealogy Society, in St. Paul, _www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mnggs/GGS.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mnggs/GGS.html) and they have excellent books for sale, too. I know some of these people personally and can vouch for their expertise. You will likely encounter multiple spellings too, and that's okay. Worsech may be pronounced (and hence written) Vorseck. Maureen In a message dated 4/10/2009 10:41:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi-- My Worsech ancestors came to the U.S. from Prussia around 1880-82. They may have come from Stargard--the Gdansk area (currently in Poland), as one son said he was born there. Worsech seems to be an uncommon name--so I am looking for connections to any other Worsechs. My Worsechs that came over were Wilhelm/William Worsech (b 1842) and Louise Kiecker/Kitchner (b 1844), and their oldest children Amelia (b 1871), Gustave (b 1872 Stargard, W. Prussia) , and William (b 1874). They spoke German, living first in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania and then in Minnesota. On their death certificates, Wilhelm's father was listed at Jacob Worsech. Louise's father was listed as Marvin Kiecker. I have no other information about their ancestors in Prussia, or other specifics there. Looking for any evidence of them over there, or information about other Worsechs. Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you, Emily Phillips ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814837x1201410725/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814837x1201410725/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)

Emily, I hope you have looked at all the Worsech people listed in _www.familyserch.org_ (http://www.familyserch.org) - go to advanced search and enter just the surname Worsech. Of course you know you will have to look in multiple U.S. sources wherever they lived here in order to prove up their birthplace(s) before you go looking in Europe. Many of these are listed in West Prussia. And those sources you need are not always on line - joining a genealogical society is a huge help - there is an excellent one in Minnesota which specializes in Eastern Europe - it is the Minnesota Genealogical Society, Germanic Genealogy Society, in St. Paul, _www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mnggs/GGS.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mnggs/GGS.html) and they have excellent books for sale, too. I know some of these people personally and can vouch for their expertise. You will likely encounter multiple spellings too, and that's okay. Worsech may be pronounced (and hence written) Vorseck. Maureen In a message dated 4/10/2009 10:41:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi-- My Worsech ancestors came to the U.S. from Prussia around 1880-82. They may have come from Stargard--the Gdansk area (currently in Poland), as one son said he was born there. Worsech seems to be an uncommon name--so I am looking for connections to any other Worsechs. My Worsechs that came over were Wilhelm/William Worsech (b 1842) and Louise Kiecker/Kitchner (b 1844), and their oldest children Amelia (b 1871), Gustave (b 1872 Stargard, W. Prussia) , and William (b 1874). They spoke German, living first in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania and then in Minnesota. On their death certificates, Wilhelm's father was listed at Jacob Worsech. Louise's father was listed as Marvin Kiecker. I have no other information about their ancestors in Prussia, or other specifics there. Looking for any evidence of them over there, or information about other Worsechs. Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you, Emily Phillips ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814837x1201410725/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)

Hi-- My Worsech ancestors came to the U.S. from Prussia around 1880-82. They may have come from Stargard--the Gdansk area (currently in Poland), as one son said he was born there. Worsech seems to be an uncommon name--so I am looking for connections to any other Worsechs. My Worsechs that came over were Wilhelm/William Worsech (b 1842) and Louise Kiecker/Kitchner (b 1844), and their oldest children Amelia (b 1871), Gustave (b 1872 Stargard, W. Prussia) , and William (b 1874). They spoke German, living first in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania and then in Minnesota. On their death certificates, Wilhelm's father was listed at Jacob Worsech. Louise's father was listed as Marvin Kiecker. I have no other information about their ancestors in Prussia, or other specifics there. Looking for any evidence of them over there, or information about other Worsechs. Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you, Emily Phillips

My father became an apprentice to a watch maker in Putzig, West Prussia in 1913. He was certified by the appropriate guild in Danzig three years later, but stayed on as an assistant for another year before leaving. I'm curious to learn how one apprenticed at that time. Did his parents have to pay for the training? Was it customary to live with the master (my father was 14 when he started)? My impression is that it was a twelve-month year of study and practice, summer vacations, etc. Any information would be helpful. Thanks, Karl von Loewe

Jean, According to one naming dictionary, Norden is from Hamburg, Bremen; place name in East Frisia. Also listed is Nordenflycht, von Hamburg; Swedish aristocratic name for Andreas Nordbohm 1727. Nordhoff, Los German-Westphalian farmstead name like Sudhoff etc. (Nord = north, Sud = south) Nordhold (Bremen) see place name Nordholte is Oldenburg. Nordmann, frequently in Hamburg, see Norbert for Nordebert. Named for a dwelling in a northern location, likewise Nordmeyer. In some cases derived from place name beginnng with Nord-. In Hamburg, a Nortmannus (personal name) was recorded 1256, also in Rostock, Greifswald, Stralsund. In Cologne 1172 Gerard Norman. In another source: Nordan = Nordon; after 1800, Lissa, France. 1834 - Nordon. Nordau - northern pasture. Nordemann - possibly from "Nord(e)mann", man coming from the North, man living in the North or distorted for Nordener, a slurred form of Nordheimer from either Nordheim, Bas-Rhin, France or Nordheim, a North German surname, found mainly in NE Westphalia in the district of Gütersloh. NORDEN from Norden, Aurich, also Nord, a German surname. From 1690-1800 Hamburg or Altona. After 1800, Aachen, Emden, Hamburg, Lissa FR. Also Nideggen. In the 1826 City Directory for Hamburg there is a widow (Wwe.) Hans Lorenz Norden, Mobilien u. Spiegel, Theilfeld no. 137 N. The cross-reference to that address shows only Norden, W. In Altona, same directory, there is a Norden, Joh. Christp. (Johann Christoph or Christopher), Schuhmachermeister, Dreierstr(asse). no. 199. This address at no. 199 shows Lazarus, Mahlenbrock, Norden, Niemann, Nagel, Pries and Bremer. Perhaps a boarding house. You may find many more spellings, and they may all be "correct" since there were no spelling rules until very late in the 19th century, early 20th century. And the "d" and "t" and "dt" and "th" all sound pretty much like "d" in Germany. Hamburg and Altona and Westphalia are all north, fittingly, where some variety of Plattdeutsch is spoken. But of course this won't help much unless you find a location in US records to work from, as I'm sure you know. Maureen In a message dated 4/1/2009 1:43:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dear List, For those on the list who are native German speakers or have extensive experience with German surnames please advise me of possible GERMAN language spelling variations for the surname NORDEN. Reason for the request is I am searching indexes of German church records on microfilm and cannot locate the surname in the German records. I have been told it is a rather uncommon surname in Germany. Thanks, Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631247x1201390185/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540506%3B35046329%3Bx)

The modern online Germany phone book at http://www.infobel.com/en/world/Teldir.aspx?url=http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/ shows over 400 non-commercial entries for Norden and variations including Nohrden, Norten, Northen, and all of these have variations with the o umlauted or followed by an e. I doubt you would miss these variations in a parish book since they are so close to Norden but could easily miss them in a database that does not use soundex in the search. FamilySearch does use soundex, nevertheless, you might be surprised at the results if you search on each variation yourself. You can also see any unusual concentration for a surname at the Geogen surname mapping site for Germany at http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/ There is strong concentration information for Norden on this site. Good luck, Paul near Portland

Dear List, For those on the list who are native German speakers or have extensive experience with German surnames please advise me of possible GERMAN language spelling variations for the surname NORDEN. Reason for the request is I am searching indexes of German church records on microfilm and cannot locate the surname in the German records. I have been told it is a rather uncommon surname in Germany. Thanks, Jean

well, i tried to take a stab at this for ya. please be warned that i've only been studying German for a few years! i'm pretty good with conversational german, but the official language and terminology in this letter is a whole different matter. so please don't consider this a 100% verbatim translation. hopefully, it's good enough to clarify things at least a little bit! chris ______________________________ Your mail from 12/5/2008 - Death record - Johanna Hedwig Schott, died 1883/1884 Dear Mrs. Schott Irizarry, because of the large number of inquiries, i can only now answer your email. the Suchumlaufstelle <search circulation office> can no longer be helpful to you in your search for death records for Johanna Hedwig Schott died 1883/1884. on Jan 1st, 2009, the law to reform <personal status rights> went into effect. because of that, our safekeeping <limits/requirements/obligations> were changed. these are: for marriage and life-partner records, 80 years for birth records, 110 years for death records, 30 years within these time frames, we can issue to you the desired documents as before. For the older records, the law counts changed from the 01.01.2009 over the security and utilization of archive goods of the State of Berlin (ArchGB) of the 29th of November 1993, finally through law of the 15th of October 2001 i. V. m. the country archive use order (LArchBO) of the 04th of March 2008. you can turn directly to the Berlin registry offices. You find the addresses on the Internet under http://www.berlin.de/standesamt Be aware that in accordance with country archive use order - LArchBO of 04.03.2008 there exists a fee in the amount of 30.00 euro per request for the use of archive goods. Before you write several several district ofices - registry offices -, it's recommended that you inquire, when appropriate, to the registry office middle of Berlin. there is also the possibility of Auskunftseinholung <collecting information> with the Berliner Einwohnermeldekartei <inhabitant registration card> (EMK) in the country archive Berlin. You find more information in addition on the webpage of the country archive Berlin under http://www.landesarchiv-berlin.de in the categories supply - Einwohnermeldekartei <inhabitant registration card>. Supply - Einwohnermeldekartei. A corresponding proposal form is offered there. The written information out of the Einwohnermeldekartei costs 10,- EUR per sought person. with kind regards, etc etc etc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg Irizarry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Translation Help Please Hello, I have pasted an email below, which I would appreciate some help translating. I inquired about searching the death record of a great Aunt in Berlin in approx. 1883-4. Last year, I was very successful in obtaining a record of her birth in 1882 and subsequently, her name. I was very excited about this! Sadly, she died at between 18 months and 2 years of age. When I wrote and asked them to search her death, I received the response below and it seems (from the very little I can glean) that policy has changed. Any help with translation and knowledge about the policy change would be very appreciated. Sincerely, Meg >Ihre Mail vom 05.12.2008 - Sterbeeintrag - >Johanna Hedwig Schott verst. 1883 / 1884 > >Sehr geehrte Frau Schott Irizarry, > >auf Grund der vielen Anfragen kann ich Ihre Mail >leider erst heute beantworten. > >Bezugnehmend darauf teile ich Ihnen folgendes mit: > >die Suchumlaufstelle kann Ihnen bei der >Auffindung des gesuchten Sterbeeintrags von >Johanna Hedwig Schott verst. 1883/1884 >leider nicht mehr behilflich sein. > >Zum 01.01.2009 ist das Gesetz zur Reform des >Personenstandsrechts (PStRG) in Kraft getreten. > >Daraus ergeben sich veränderte Aufbewahrungs- >bzw. Fortführungspflichten der Standesämter. > >Diese sind für Ehe - und Lebenspartnerschaftsregister 80 Jahre, > > für Geburtenregister 110 Jahre, > > für Sterberegister 30 Jahre. > >Aus diesen Jahrgängen stellt Ihnen das >Standesamt wie bisher die gewünschten Urkunden >aus und erteilt Auskünfte in dem gesetzlich vorgeschriebenen Rahmen. > >Für die Benutzung der älteren Jahrgänge gilt ab >dem 01.01.2009 das Gesetz über die Sicherung und >Nutzung von Archivgut des Landes Berlin (ArchGB) >vom 29. November 1993, zuletzt geändert durch >Gesetz vom 15. Oktober 2001 i.V.m. der >Landesarchiv-Benutzungsordnung (LArchBO) vom 04. März 2008. > >Dazu können Sie sich direkt an die einzelnen Berliner Standesämter wenden. >Der Adressen finden Sie im Internet unter < >http://www.berlin.de/standesamt>. > >Vorsorglich weise ich darauf hin, dass gemäß >Landesarchiv-Benutzungsordnung - LArchBO vom >04.03.2008 die Gebühr zur Benutzung von >Archivgut pro Antrag 30,00 Euro beträgt. > >Bevor Sie mehrere Bezirksämter - Standesamt - >anschreiben, empfiehlt sich ggf. eine direkte >Nachfrage beim Standesamt Mitte von Berlin. >Weiterhin besteht auch die Möglichkeit der >Auskunftseinholung aus der Berliner >Einwohnermeldekartei (EMK) beim Landesarchiv Berlin. >Nähere Informationen dazu finden Sie auf der >Internetseite des Landesarchiv Berlin unter < >http://www.landesarchiv-berlin.de> in der Rubrik >Bestände - Einwohnermeldekartei. Ein >entsprechendes Antragsformular wird dort >angeboten. Die schriftliche Auskunft aus der >Einwohnermeldekartei kostet 10,- EUR pro gesuchter Person. > >Mit freundlichen Grüßen >Im Auftrag > >Schurig >Standesamt Friedrichshain-Kreuzberg von Berlin >Zentrale Suchumlaufstelle >Schlesische Str. 27A, 10997 Berlin [email protected] "Real world success hinges less on getting everything right, than on how you handle getting things wrong." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's the translation (Thanks to Babel fish): Dear Mrs. Schott Irizarry, > > due to the many inquiries I know your mail > answer unfortunately not until today. > > Referring on it I divide you the following with: > > the search rotating place can you with that > Location of the looked for dying entry of > Johanna Hedwig bulkhead amplifier. 1883/1884 > unfortunately no longer helpful its. > > To 01.01.2009 is the law to the reform of the > Person condition right (PStRG) into force stepped. > > From it changed storage results > and/or continuation obligations of the register offices. > > These are for marriage - and life partnership registers 80 years, > > for birth registers 110 years, > > for registers of deaths 30 years. > > From these classes that places to you > Register office as before the desired documents > out and gives information within the legally prescribed framework. > > For the use of the older classes is valid off > that 01.01.2009 the law over the protection and > Use of archives property of Land Berlin (ArchGB) > from 29 November 1993, last changed through > Law from 15 October 2001 i.V.m. that > National's archives use order (LArchBO) of 04. March 2008. > > In addition you can contact directly the individual citizens of Berlin of register offices. > The addresses find you in the Internet under < http://www.berlin.de/standesamt>. > > As a precaution I point out that in accordance with > National's archives use order - LArchBO of > 04.03.2008 the fee to the use of > Archives property per request 30.00 euros amounts to. > > Before it several offices for district - register office - > write down, is recommended if necessary a direct > Demand with the register office center of Berlin. > Further also the possibility that exists > Information its getting from the citizens of Berlin > Inhabitant personal card index (EMK) with national archives Berlin. > Closer information to it finds you on that > Internet site national archives Berlin under < > http://www.landesarchiv-berlin.de> in the column > Existence - inhabitant personal card index. > appropriate request form becomes there > offered. The written information from that > Inhabitant personal card index costs 10, - EUR per looked for person. > > Yours sincerely > On behalf > > Schurig > Register office Friedrichshain Kreuzberg of Berlin > Central search rotating place > Schlesi STR. 27A, 10997 Berlin 2009/3/31 Meg Irizarry <[email protected]> > Hello, > > I have pasted an email below, which I would > appreciate some help translating. I inquired > about searching the death record of a great Aunt > in Berlin in approx. 1883-4. Last year, I was > very successful in obtaining a record of her > birth in 1882 and subsequently, her name. I was > very excited about this! Sadly, she died at > between 18 months and 2 years of age. When I > wrote and asked them to search her death, I > received the response below and it seems (from > the very little I can glean) that policy has > changed. Any help with translation and knowledge > about the policy change would be very appreciated. > > Sincerely, > > Meg > > > > >Ihre Mail vom 05.12.2008 - Sterbeeintrag - > >Johanna Hedwig Schott verst. 1883 / 1884 > > > >Sehr geehrte Frau Schott Irizarry, > > > >auf Grund der vielen Anfragen kann ich Ihre Mail > >leider erst heute beantworten. > > > >Bezugnehmend darauf teile ich Ihnen folgendes mit: > > > >die Suchumlaufstelle kann Ihnen bei der > >Auffindung des gesuchten Sterbeeintrags von > >Johanna Hedwig Schott verst. 1883/1884 > >leider nicht mehr behilflich sein. > > > >Zum 01.01.2009 ist das Gesetz zur Reform des > >Personenstandsrechts (PStRG) in Kraft getreten. > > > >Daraus ergeben sich veränderte Aufbewahrungs- > >bzw. Fortführungspflichten der Standesämter. > > > >Diese sind für Ehe - und Lebenspartnerschaftsregister 80 Jahre, > > > > für Geburtenregister 110 Jahre, > > > > für Sterberegister 30 Jahre. > > > >Aus diesen Jahrgängen stellt Ihnen das > >Standesamt wie bisher die gewünschten Urkunden > >aus und erteilt Auskünfte in dem gesetzlich vorgeschriebenen Rahmen. > > > >Für die Benutzung der älteren Jahrgänge gilt ab > >dem 01.01.2009 das Gesetz über die Sicherung und > >Nutzung von Archivgut des Landes Berlin (ArchGB) > >vom 29. November 1993, zuletzt geändert durch > >Gesetz vom 15. Oktober 2001 i.V.m. der > >Landesarchiv-Benutzungsordnung (LArchBO) vom 04. März 2008. > > > >Dazu können Sie sich direkt an die einzelnen Berliner Standesämter wenden. > >Der Adressen finden Sie im Internet unter < > http://www.berlin.de/standesamt>. > > > >Vorsorglich weise ich darauf hin, dass gemäß > >Landesarchiv-Benutzungsordnung - LArchBO vom > >04.03.2008 die Gebühr zur Benutzung von > >Archivgut pro Antrag 30,00 Euro beträgt. > > > >Bevor Sie mehrere Bezirksämter - Standesamt - > >anschreiben, empfiehlt sich ggf. eine direkte > >Nachfrage beim Standesamt Mitte von Berlin. > >Weiterhin besteht auch die Möglichkeit der > >Auskunftseinholung aus der Berliner > >Einwohnermeldekartei (EMK) beim Landesarchiv Berlin. > >Nähere Informationen dazu finden Sie auf der > >Internetseite des Landesarchiv Berlin unter < > >http://www.landesarchiv-berlin.de> in der Rubrik > >Bestände - Einwohnermeldekartei. Ein > >entsprechendes Antragsformular wird dort > >angeboten. Die schriftliche Auskunft aus der > >Einwohnermeldekartei kostet 10,- EUR pro gesuchter Person. > > > >Mit freundlichen Grüßen > >Im Auftrag > > > >Schurig > >Standesamt Friedrichshain-Kreuzberg von Berlin > >Zentrale Suchumlaufstelle > >Schlesische Str. 27A, 10997 Berlin > > > > [email protected] > "Real world success hinges less on getting > everything right, than on how you handle getting things wrong." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >