Robert's opinion puzzles me- it's not the 1st time I've encountered it; others over the years have expressed the same view. But it seems to me the objective in doing all this work and spending some $ is to contact others researching or possibly related to your own lineage. Then you can fill in your missing ancestry. Personally, I want the entities like Ancestry, Rootweb, etc. to broadcast my info as far and wide as they can! Hoarding it, holding it close to your chest simply makes no sense to me. Would someone please explain? Livy On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Robert Lipprandt <[email protected]>wrote: > This makes me uneasy at it has > taken so much time and effort (and finances in some cases) to obtain. > > > I may be way off in my uneasiness, curious as to how the general 'Prussia > Roots' group feels. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Gypsy, Cheryl and Bob: I, too, am glad to share any information I have but have not submitted it to Ancestry or anywhere else for the same reasons as you. Ann in Farmingdale NJ Researching: FEINEN, LANZ, BACKES, FINKEL, WEGMANN Genealogy: The Past Revisited (http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html) In a message dated 4/14/2009 9:20:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Same here. I have queries out there - but no where have I submitted my "whole" family tree - I have had bad experiences with people taking my stuff and entering it - and not entering it correctly. I learned of grandchildren I do not have - and learned things about my grandparents and parents that are not true. All out there on the web for everyone to see and finding no way to correct it. And as for the validity of their claims - my father knows where he was born much more so than my mother's mother's third cousin's second wife! Believe me! I have had to ask people to remove information on living people - some do some don't. Am I mean and selfish? Maybe mean - but never selfish - I gladly share - based on what others share with me. But I do not submit to websites - I am not comfortable not knowing where that info goes and who benefits monetarily from my hard work. Just my take on the topic. Gypsy in dreary cloudy Michigan <<<You asked so here is my opinion I have never added my information to anything on the web I have given other people information and they have posted it and a lot of it is wrong >>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since you are collecting opinions - I have not added my files to the public sites, because I don't think they are good enough. A mistake in genealogy data makes the "facts" worthless. I, too, could list many crazy mistakes that I have seen for my immediate family. I have 12,000 names between my family and my husband's, and I don't want to be responsible for perpetuating erroneous information. When I began this hobby/obsession, I did not cite sources or document very well. Many of the names I have are "borrowed" from the public sites, for whose existence I *am* grateful. They are a starting point for me. I then do my own verification, and then add my own sources. Using the sites, but not contributing my tree, may seem hypocritical to some. One way I do contribute is by submitting corrections to RootsWeb and Ancestry.com files [both census corrections and family tree corrections], only when I am sure that I have my facts straight. It's unfortunate that there is not a system in place to correct data on the FamilySearch pages. I do use the message boards and lists, and prefer to work in a more controlled setting, sharing with a person or group where I can ask questions, share, correct my files, explain discrepancies, etc. I am more than happy to share my trees with close family, or cyber-families who I trust, because I know who has them, and I can send corrections and updates. Should they choose to publish this info . . . well, I guess that is out of my control. I have no copyrights, but would hope they credit me as a source. Kathleen

Same here. I have queries out there - but no where have I submitted my "whole" family tree - I have had bad experiences with people taking my stuff and entering it - and not entering it correctly. I learned of grandchildren I do not have - and learned things about my grandparents and parents that are not true. All out there on the web for everyone to see and finding no way to correct it. And as for the validity of their claims - my father knows where he was born much more so than my mother's mother's third cousin's second wife! Believe me! I have had to ask people to remove information on living people - some do some don't. Am I mean and selfish? Maybe mean - but never selfish - I gladly share - based on what others share with me. But I do not submit to websites - I am not comfortable not knowing where that info goes and who benefits monetarily from my hard work. Just my take on the topic. Gypsy in dreary cloudy Michigan <<<You asked so here is my opinion I have never added my information to anything on the web I have given other people information and they have posted it and a lot of it is wrong >>>

Robert Lipprandt wrote: > Back in the old days, I almost (notice I said almost) put all my research > and findings on Rootsweb (before it was purchased by Ancestry). Since the > purchase, the various family group information has been moved to Ancestry > and used for it's various pay per view links. This makes me uneasy at it has > taken so much time and effort (and finances in some cases) to obtain. Robert, If you posted your information on Rootsweb's WorldConnect, it's still there, available for free. It will also be on Ancestry's WorldTree, available by subscription. The reverse is not necessarily true. I regularly update my database at WorldConnect. Because it's there, I've been contacted by relatives (and many others) about the names there. Apart from the fun of finding connections to other researchers, the information that has shared with me has been invaluable. A late second-cousin of mine was doing "scholarly research" and planned to write a book when he was done. He did not want any of his work appearing on the internet, so I told him he should not give me any of his information, because once I had it, it would become part of my knowledge and I'd be likely to post it (inadvertently, of course). He died just a couple months after being diagnosed with a very rare kind of cancer. His work is lost -- what a shame! In the meantime, I had had contact with others -- sometimes almost monthly-- with someone closely or distantly connected somehow to people in my database. So my inclination is to continue to share my data. Of course others will 'take' it -- but as far as I'm concerned, the benefits far outweigh the 'cost.' Just my thoughts on the issue... Mona -- Mona Houser [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/

Family Search is redoing all of it's information.  As you find incorrect information on the site, you have the right to dispute it.  I'm not sure exactly how it all works, but I believe workers at the LDS Family History centers know how to do it.  I understand that they will do away with Ancestral file, because there are so many errors and problems.  Kay North Salt Lake, UT --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Genealogy sites.... To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 8:28 AM Since you are collecting opinions - I have not added my files to the public sites, because I don't think they are good enough. A mistake in genealogy data makes the "facts" worthless. I, too, could list many crazy mistakes that I have seen for my immediate family. I have 12,000 names between my family and my husband's, and I don't want to be responsible for perpetuating erroneous information. When I began this hobby/obsession, I did not cite sources or document very well. Many of the names I have are "borrowed" from the public sites, for whose existence I *am* grateful. They are a starting point for me. I then do my own verification, and then add my own sources. Using the sites, but not contributing my tree, may seem hypocritical to some. One way I do contribute is by submitting corrections to RootsWeb and Ancestry.com files [both census corrections and family tree corrections], only when I am sure that I have my facts straight. It's unfortunate that there is not a system in place to correct data on the FamilySearch pages. I do use the message boards and lists, and prefer to work in a more controlled setting, sharing with a person or group where I can ask questions, share, correct my files, explain discrepancies, etc. I am more than happy to share my trees with close family, or cyber-families who I trust, because I know who has them, and I can send corrections and updates. Should they choose to publish this info . . . well, I guess that is out of my control. I have no copyrights, but would hope they credit me as a source. Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You asked so here is my opinion I have never added my information to anything on the web I have given other people information and they have posted it and a lot of it is wrong I buy Family tree maker and I only supply my family with information if there is enough copies around then the family will find it somewhere and sooner or later I will supply the county historian with the information and also family history the mormon society people that appreciate with out charging I can search for my family and there is nothing out there except the wrong stuff that people have put out there I have many details about my family and close and distant members have the information for a later date This is just my opinion and how I do it I had to pay 22.00 for each birth death and marriage certificate for one family and there was 13 of them in a family so unless I am getting a lifetime membership from Ancestry they will not get my information and if you keep it on a computer back it up on to thumb drive external drives and other computers that way if one goes down you have a back up well I have waited a long time to discuss this so thank you for the open invitaion Cheryl **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421325x1201417411/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62)

Carolynn touched on something that I have been avoiding/thinking of for over the past 14 years of my research into my five major families of interest. Back in the old days, I almost (notice I said almost) put all my research and findings on Rootsweb (before it was purchased by Ancestry). Since the purchase, the various family group information has been moved to Ancestry and used for it's various pay per view links. This makes me uneasy at it has taken so much time and effort (and finances in some cases) to obtain. I admit that I know nothing of AncestorHunters, who their parent organization is and when you place the information on their site, just who would own the rights to this information. Do you pay for the privilege or can it be likened to the early Rootsweb? Yes, I use Ancestry/MyFamily and some local state/county information (Census and Military) to build and add information to my family groups... always with the source indicator so not to confuse my own research being built upon the research of others. Anyway... bottom line is I am still very uneasy about posting anything other than surnames and events linked to my search group surnames. I may be way off in my uneasiness, curious as to how the general 'Prussia Roots' group feels. Regards, Bob~~ (South Florida) Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Genealogy > > Hi All-Michigan can't make up it mind on the weather either. However, I am > doing a little genealogy work. I'm entering surnames and dates into FTM > 2006 from the FHL reel of Burow and Speck now. I've gotten Resehl done as > far as I can. I too, noticed the list has been slow. I'm searching for > Brehmer(Bremer) and Rabenhorst on these films, but I figured since I began > looking last summer, I'd just enter what I could decipher no matter what > the surname. These are births, deaths and marriages as far as I can see. > I've posted most of Resehl(which includes Kannenburg) on the > Ancestorhunters group. Does this group have anything like that? >

Hey Ruth - yeah too cold here too but back about a month ago we hit 70! Nice... Back to 40's now. I'm indoors but not doing genealogy probably for the summer. Storing up my energy. Best Wishes! Becky > Hi Becky, > I tried that here in Wis. but the wind is too cold, so I'm going to the > FHC > in Madison to dig up some relatives. > It's Spring time in the USofA! Yard work time...Becky in MI

Hi All-Michigan can't make up it mind on the weather either. However, I am doing a little genealogy work. I'm entering surnames and dates into FTM 2006 from the FHL reel of Burow and Speck now. I've gotten Resehl done as far as I can. I too, noticed the list has been slow. I'm searching for Brehmer(Bremer) and Rabenhorst on these films, but I figured since I began looking last summer, I'd just enter what I could decipher no matter what the surname. These are births, deaths and marriages as far as I can see. I've posted most of Resehl(which includes Kannenburg) on the Ancestorhunters group. Does this group have anything like that?

Hi Becky, I tried that here in Wis. but the wind is too cold, so I'm going to the FHC in Madison to dig up some relatives. In a message dated 4/13/2009 10:32:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: >>Hi Everyone, >> I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. >> Did >> I get unsubscribed? It's Spring time in the USofA! Yard work time...Becky in MI ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000002)

>>Hi Everyone, >> I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. >> Did >> I get unsubscribed? It's Spring time in the USofA! Yard work time...Becky in MI

Hi all - I've received a few messages since March 31st, but not that many - maybe half a dozen or so. Megan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, 13 April 2009 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Where is everyone? Hi Everyone, I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. Did I get unsubscribed? Ruth **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035&ncid =emlcntusdown00000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apparently not! :-} David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Where is everyone? Hi Everyone, I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. Did I get unsubscribed? Ruth **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035&ncid=emlcntusdown00000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

castlegarden.org Genealogy: The Past Revisited _http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html_ (http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html) The Trail of Tears - Cherokee Indians forcibly removed from North Georgia In a message dated 4/13/2009 2:30:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: that seems to be a link to a B&B - is there another address? > Castle Garden is the forerunner of Ellis Island: www.castlegarden.com. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

www.castlegarden.org -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 2:29 pm Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Worsechs and Kiecker that seems to be a link to a B&B - is there another address? > Castle Garden is the forerunner of Ellis Island: www.castlegarden.com. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Kathy, I have over 900 emails ( I know - some I want and some are just friends that love to forward things). But I missed the Prussia ones, and felt lonely - even with 900 other emails Nice to know you are still out there, Ruth In a message dated 4/13/2009 8:45:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Good Morning Ruth: I just got your email, so I guess it has just been very quiet and maybe a lot of people were getting ready for the Holidays and doing Spring Cleaning. Also this week a lot of kids are on Spring Break and most of our friends went away for the week. Enjoy your Spring. Kathy in NJ In a message dated 4/13/2009 3:23:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Everyone, I haven't received any emails from the Prussia Roots since March 31. Did I get unsubscribed? Ruth **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035&ncid =e mlcntusdown00000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621489x1201450100/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% 3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035&ncid=emlcntusdown00000002)

Its actually http://www.castlegarden.org/ Dave Thies -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Deao Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Worsechs and Kiecker that seems to be a link to a B&B - is there another address? > Castle Garden is the forerunner of Ellis Island: www.castlegarden.com. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

that seems to be a link to a B&B - is there another address? > Castle Garden is the forerunner of Ellis Island: www.castlegarden.com. >

Emily, I hope you will back up a bit and go with what you know, beginning with your own birth certificate, any and all siblings, and the same for each generation back to the immigrants - scouring all US records, in any form, not just on line. Ancestry and Familysearch, huge as they are, are often helpful, but their transcriptions are often incorrect and can be very misleading. Study the original documents wherever possible, look for groups. You need proof, primary source proof, which is documentation, at least two times for each event, which includes death certificates, very often inaccurate. If you are not a member of genealogical society which includes Germanic sources, it will help you to join one, even if just for a year, and send queries, ask questions, especially in the locations where these families settled. It also helps enormously to learn a couple dozen German/Polish words if you haven't already, to read about the history, geography, learn the religions, occupations, culture. Learn the abbreviations and symbols and diacritical markings. Look for German language newspapers in the US up to W W I, fraternal organizations, sexton's records from cemeteries, tombstones, dialects. And with your surnames, multiple spellings, so the sound is more important. There are numerous passenger lists, numerous ports, direct and indirect passages, departure lists and arrival lists, but not often giving the village in Europe which is key to finding your direct family, and that village is what you need to find in US records. It takes time and patience and perseverance - but you have that built-in, with your heritage! Wishing you well! Maureen In a message dated 4/13/2009 9:44:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi--My Worsechs and Kiecker came over prior to Ellis Island (early 1880s). And I have been using Ancestry--so far with no results for ship records/immigration. Perhaps I need to try to follow up/contact any Worsechs in U.S. to see if they have info that I don't? Or even try to reach some in Germany or Poland? Emily > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:05:44 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] looking for Worsechs and Kiecker > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > If they came into Ellis Island that site is free _www.ellisisland.org_ > (http://www.ellisisland.org) and just run the last name a lot are spelled > wrong, so you might have to try different ways. Their is another site called > Castle Gardens and that has ship records as well. If you can find more on > Ancestry that would be good too. Might want to join for awhile or go to your > local library and use their computer. Kathy in NJ Happy Spring > > > In a message dated 4/11/2009 8:05:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi--Thank you for your suggestions. I have found my Worsechs' census > records in the U.S. and also some naturalization records (they do not > specify where in Prussia). I have also checked familysearch.org, but a > while back. I will look there again. I have not been able to find ship > records thus far, and I know those might list a specific location. > Thank you for the hints re spelling. > > Kiecker--I am sorry, I don't know if your Otto Kiecker is related. I > have no information about Louise Kiecker/Kitchner's family members or > ancestors. As far as I know, she came over with her husband, and I am > not aware she is related to any of the Kieckers in MN (but there are > quite a lot of them!). > > Emily Phillips > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621489x1201450100/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62)