Hello Maureen, Thank you for the quick response! Basically I am looking for information about him prior to him coming here, by himself, in 1856 when he was, actually, 17 years old. This is what I know about him prior to his arrival here: Name: William Charles Wormell Born: Feb 12, 1839 Arrival in Boston as cabin boy: Feb 29, 1856 Occupation: Sea Captain (later years) Father: Charles Mother: Anna Place of origin/birth: Prussia, possibly Stettin I am from Cape Cod. I have been researching my mother's side and father's mother's side for years...and go way back on several of the branches. I am actually first one in my direct line on my mother's side to move more than 70 miles from Plymouth Rock since 1620:)! My search for William's family has been in Germany but really has been limited. I did do extensive research here to find out what he did here until he was married and received his citizenship. Thank you for the new information concerning Wurmeling. Perhaps that may even be an alternate spelling (Wurmel). Again, the "e" at the end of my last name was added by my grandfather's sister to make it look more French at the turn of the century. Apparently she thought it looked too German. My grandfather was too young to object, though his older brother did and did not change the spelling. I am learning that there is something to be said about being of Prussian decent. A few months ago I was speaking online with a new acquaintance from Berlin and I told him my great grandfather was from Prussia. I forget exactly what he said, but he mentioned all sorts of complimentary characteristics that I must have if I am from Prussian decent:)! He was right:)! Thank you. Hope this breaks a brick! Jim On Aug 2, 2009, at 7:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Jim - Sure hope you can fill us in on more than just a surname. > Need > full name, spouse's maiden name, siblings and children, religion, as > many > dates as you have proof for, occupation sea captain? That's one > good clue. > But I do not know of a way to take a surname and find his > birthplace in > Europe. So perhaps we can zero in on Boston and thereabouts. You > didn't > mention where you have been looking, but over 40 years, that has to > be a > long list and many documents. Brick walls don't go on forever - > we're > Prussian! > > In Bahlow's book, Würmeling is a place name in Holstein. There is a > reference to Vormann (or Fuhrmann) Low German, wagoner, in Hamburg > around 1263. > Hanks & Hodges' dictionary shows Old English origins for Wormald, > Wormal, > Wormhall, Wormell, Wormull, Warmoll. No Wormelle. > > So - please give us some more of your ammunition and let's see what > happens > to that brick wall. > > Maureen > > > In a message dated 8/2/2009 3:41:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > According to my great grandfather's naturalization papers, he arrived > in Boston, from Prussia, on 29 FEB 1856. He was 15 years old. Family > story says he worked his way over from Germany as a cabin boy on a > ship. He never spoke about the "old country". My father said he > thought his grandfather came from Essen or Stettin. In looking at a > map of Prussia of 1850, Essen was not part of Prussia so it appears > that Stettin, now Szczecin, Poland, is possibly a starting point for > my research. > > This is my last line and brick wall of my tree which I have been > researching for 40 years. I have only come across WORMELL as an > English name and any records I have seen for Germany/Prussia do not > show the name. > > If anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to start > based on this information, it would be greatly appreciated. I have > gone so far as taking a long shot and joining the Germany DNA group > to > have have my DNA tested, in hopes that there might be a match. No 37 > marker matches. > > Interestlingly, the both witnesses on his naturalization papers were > from Denmark. Both worked in shipping industry...one as a captain, > the > other as the owner of a "employment agency" for the shipping > industry. > Both also lived near him in East Boston. My great grandfather was a > sea captain. > > Thank you, Jim Wormelle ("e" added on early 1900's) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just > 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx > ?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd > =JulystepsfooterNO115) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Jim: Where was he naturalized? Do you know where and when he died? Have you found him in all available census records? Sheila K. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Jim <[email protected]> wrote: > According to my great grandfather's naturalization papers, he arrived > in Boston, from Prussia, on 29 FEB 1856. He was 15 years old. Family > story says he worked his way over from Germany as a cabin boy on a > ship. He never spoke about the "old country". My father said he > thought his grandfather came from Essen or Stettin. In looking at a > map of Prussia of 1850, Essen was not part of Prussia so it appears > that Stettin, now Szczecin, Poland, is possibly a starting point for > my research. > > This is my last line and brick wall of my tree which I have been > researching for 40 years. I have only come across WORMELL as an > English name and any records I have seen for Germany/Prussia do not > show the name. > > If anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to start > based on this information, it would be greatly appreciated. I have > gone so far as taking a long shot and joining the Germany DNA group to > have have my DNA tested, in hopes that there might be a match. No 37 > marker matches. > > Interestlingly, the both witnesses on his naturalization papers were > from Denmark. Both worked in shipping industry...one as a captain, the > other as the owner of a "employment agency" for the shipping industry. > Both also lived near him in East Boston. My great grandfather was a > sea captain. > > Thank you, Jim Wormelle ("e" added on early 1900's) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jim - Sure hope you can fill us in on more than just a surname. Need full name, spouse's maiden name, siblings and children, religion, as many dates as you have proof for, occupation sea captain? That's one good clue. But I do not know of a way to take a surname and find his birthplace in Europe. So perhaps we can zero in on Boston and thereabouts. You didn't mention where you have been looking, but over 40 years, that has to be a long list and many documents. Brick walls don't go on forever - we're Prussian! In Bahlow's book, Würmeling is a place name in Holstein. There is a reference to Vormann (or Fuhrmann) Low German, wagoner, in Hamburg around 1263. Hanks & Hodges' dictionary shows Old English origins for Wormald, Wormal, Wormhall, Wormell, Wormull, Warmoll. No Wormelle. So - please give us some more of your ammunition and let's see what happens to that brick wall. Maureen In a message dated 8/2/2009 3:41:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: According to my great grandfather's naturalization papers, he arrived in Boston, from Prussia, on 29 FEB 1856. He was 15 years old. Family story says he worked his way over from Germany as a cabin boy on a ship. He never spoke about the "old country". My father said he thought his grandfather came from Essen or Stettin. In looking at a map of Prussia of 1850, Essen was not part of Prussia so it appears that Stettin, now Szczecin, Poland, is possibly a starting point for my research. This is my last line and brick wall of my tree which I have been researching for 40 years. I have only come across WORMELL as an English name and any records I have seen for Germany/Prussia do not show the name. If anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to start based on this information, it would be greatly appreciated. I have gone so far as taking a long shot and joining the Germany DNA group to have have my DNA tested, in hopes that there might be a match. No 37 marker matches. Interestlingly, the both witnesses on his naturalization papers were from Denmark. Both worked in shipping industry...one as a captain, the other as the owner of a "employment agency" for the shipping industry. Both also lived near him in East Boston. My great grandfather was a sea captain. Thank you, Jim Wormelle ("e" added on early 1900's) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)

According to my great grandfather's naturalization papers, he arrived in Boston, from Prussia, on 29 FEB 1856. He was 15 years old. Family story says he worked his way over from Germany as a cabin boy on a ship. He never spoke about the "old country". My father said he thought his grandfather came from Essen or Stettin. In looking at a map of Prussia of 1850, Essen was not part of Prussia so it appears that Stettin, now Szczecin, Poland, is possibly a starting point for my research. This is my last line and brick wall of my tree which I have been researching for 40 years. I have only come across WORMELL as an English name and any records I have seen for Germany/Prussia do not show the name. If anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to start based on this information, it would be greatly appreciated. I have gone so far as taking a long shot and joining the Germany DNA group to have have my DNA tested, in hopes that there might be a match. No 37 marker matches. Interestlingly, the both witnesses on his naturalization papers were from Denmark. Both worked in shipping industry...one as a captain, the other as the owner of a "employment agency" for the shipping industry. Both also lived near him in East Boston. My great grandfather was a sea captain. Thank you, Jim Wormelle ("e" added on early 1900's)

I'm looking for any info on Vincent Bloch or/ E. Vincent Bloch from Prussia, I think the NW part. He was (or turned) Catholic. He m/ Anna Topolski d/o Johann Topolski & Katharzine Wieluska. Vincent was born 1 Jul 1879 & married abt. 1903, he d/ in St.Louis, Mo on 30 Apr. 1937. They had a child, Klara b/ 18 Oct 1904, they came to US abt 1905-6.. I think Vincent had a brother named Anthony/Antone/Anton. Is Bloch a common name like Smith/Johnson, etc. is in US? Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions re/ Bloch.                                                                                Fran

Thankyou to everyone for the help Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Kapella" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] name query > Hello Cathy: The name "Otto" was sometimes used as a nickname for > "Adolph". Sheila K. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi thanks for replying. I've checked Ancestry, that's why I thought he could have come under a different name. He emigrated from Weferlingen, Braunschweig, Germany to Provost area, Alberta, Canada. I don't know when. He was born about 1890 (very approximate) and died in 1953 in the Provost area. He never married. He is the only one of that family which I only have one name for, so I was hoping for some name suggestions for Otto. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] name query > Cathy: > > Did you check Ancestry? Why not send the year of birth or year of > immigration, or approximate years. > > Ann > > > In a message dated 8/1/2009 11:08:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Greetings all > I am trying to find a great-uncle by the name of Otto Feldkamp who > homesteaded in Alberta after emigrating from Germany. There is no sign of > him so far, even in Canadian census. My question is what other name would > an > Otto be named. For example, Gustav was August when he came to United > States. > Thankyou, Cathy, in Canada > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cathy, My British born, ethnically German maternal grandfather changed his name from Otto August Wilhelm Kunde to Oswald Arthur William Cundy during the Great War. (Cundy being an ancient Anglo-Saxon name that reflects the English pronunciation of Kunde). You say that "Gustav was August when he came to (the) United States". There is a straight forward English equivalent of August and that is Augustus. So your Gustav was probably "August Gustav", August being his first given name and Gustav a middle name by which he went in everyday life, a common practice with Germans. (My Grandfather was known as "Bill" from his third given name). I should add that August and Gustav are entirely separate names, August coming from Cæsar Augustus (after whom the month is named in the Julian calendar), and Gustav having a Germanic origin. So it could be that Otto was a middle given name, not the first given name of your great uncle. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Hawinkels To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] name query Greetings all I am trying to find a great-uncle by the name of Otto Feldkamp who homesteaded in Alberta after emigrating from Germany. There is no sign of him so far, even in Canadian census. My question is what other name would an Otto be named. For example, Gustav was August when he came to United States. Thankyou, Cathy, in Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/2/2009 12:15:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Karhy writes: what other name would an Otto be named ***************** Kathy, In my family, Otto was at times interchanged with Oldrich, Aldrich, Aldo. Anettka **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)

Hi to everyone, I would like to say thank you very much for replying to my email. I didn't know that there these web sites exist. A big thank you Anne

Hello Cathy: The name "Otto" was sometimes used as a nickname for "Adolph". Sheila K.

Cathy: Did you check Ancestry? Why not send the year of birth or year of immigration, or approximate years. Ann In a message dated 8/1/2009 11:08:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Greetings all I am trying to find a great-uncle by the name of Otto Feldkamp who homesteaded in Alberta after emigrating from Germany. There is no sign of him so far, even in Canadian census. My question is what other name would an Otto be named. For example, Gustav was August when he came to United States. Thankyou, Cathy, in Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings all I am trying to find a great-uncle by the name of Otto Feldkamp who homesteaded in Alberta after emigrating from Germany. There is no sign of him so far, even in Canadian census. My question is what other name would an Otto be named. For example, Gustav was August when he came to United States. Thankyou, Cathy, in Canada

Thank you so much Cheri for your reply to my query. Do you think there is any connection between the two families. I can give you more information if you need it for clarification. Our Hartmann family came from Othfresen, Hannover. They came to Australia in 1863. I have not been able to find any siblings for Christian Hartmann at all. Have you any suggestions how I should go about finding his parents and siblings. Regards, Joyce 2. Re: HARTMANN / MACKE / DIETRICH (Cheri Estes) I have been researching Hartmann in Prussia, Silesia 1700 to 1900 for many years.My grandfather came ftom there with his family in 1881 to Austin,Texas. Thanks,Cheri Estes,Corpus Christi,Tx.

Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me How I can obtain Birth Certificate please. One from Lubben Prussia and the other one is Gerswalde, Uckermark Germany. Thanking you Anne

G'day Anne, The LDS Wiki Family Search has some very useful information on Germany < https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Main_Page > The German section has even been updated regarding the recent change in privacy law in Germany which now allows greater access to Civil Registration Records. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter & Anne To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] birth certificates Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me How I can obtain Birth Certificate please. One from Lubben Prussia and the other one is Gerswalde, Uckermark Germany. Thanking you Anne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, >From which years do the certificates you wish to obtain date? Is this your Lubben? Lubben, *Łubno* populated place 54°09' N 17°13' E <http://data.jewishgen.org/maps/mapdist8.asp?lat=54.1500&long=17.2167> E<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/expediamaps2.pl?lat=54.1500&lng=17.2167> M <http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/mapquest.pl?lat=541500&lng=172167> U<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/multimap.pl?lat=54.1500&lng=17.2167> G <http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/google.pl?q=54.1500,17.2167+(Łubno)> Poland 204.1 miles NW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E If so I suspect you are looking for pre-WWI records? Have you checked to see whether the records you want have been filmed by the Mormons? http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Kind regards, Bronwyn. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Peter & Anne <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Can anyone tell me How I can obtain Birth Certificate please. One from > Lubben Prussia and the other one is > Gerswalde, Uckermark Germany. > > Thanking you > > Anne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Livy, The Pommern Roman Catholic records from the 1800s that I am looking at are all in German, not Latin, so it may vary by geographic location within Prussia. Veronica > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:30 -0400 > From: Livy Revits <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] PRUSSIA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 154 > Naming Pattern in ... > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > It does help enormously to learn as much of the language, > > > > NOT TRUE if Roman Catholic- all records written in Latin! - Livy > > > >

Hope this is ok. Just posted it in Google translation area. Ingrid Dear Mr. Stroebel, directory for Sigmaringen were not published to the period indicated by you yet. The country archive Sigmaringen guarded the archive of the city Sigmaringen as a Depositum 1st documents to your great-grandfather v. a are. in part existence of 3 - 4 the city archive in acts to the immigration and emigration, citizen reception, inhabitant indices, tax acts etc. (Dep. To assume 1 T 3 - 4 no. 99-101, 204, 219, 679). For further investigation, the supply of the waiter office/mayor velvet can be requisitioned then Sigmaringen Ho 199 and the Prussian government Ho 235. Such investigations are very time-consuming, they cannot take place therefore within the framework of of our information service. They must by you yourself or one by you of delegate received become. You receive corresponding contacts on the Internet under the following address www.berufsgenealogie.net. With kind regards Sibylle Brühl

Good morning everyone, Would it be too much trouble to ask someone if they could please translate the below email I received from an archive in Sigmaringen? Many thanks, Dave ---------------------------------------- Sehr geehrter Herr Stroebel, Adressbücher für Sigmaringen sind zu dem von Ihnen angegebenen Zeitraum noch nicht herausgegeben worden. Das Staatsarchiv Sigmaringen verwahrt das Archiv der Stadt Sigmaringen als Depositum 1. Unterlagen zu Ihrem Urgroßvater sind v.a. in Teilbestand 3 - 4 des Stadtarchivs in Akten zur Ein- und Auswanderung, Bürgeraufnahmen, Einwohnerverzeichnissen, Steuerakten etc. (Dep. 1 T 3 - 4 Nr. 99-101, 204, 219, 679) zu vermuten. Für weitere Recherchen können sodann die Bestände des Oberamts/Landratsamtes Sigmaringen Ho 199 und der Preußischen Regierung Ho 235 herangezogen werden. Derartige Nachforschungen sind sehr zeitaufwendig, sie können deshalb nicht im Rahmen unseres Auskunftsdienstes erfolgen. Sie müssten von Ihnen selbst oder einem von Ihnen Beauftragten übernommen werden. Entsprechende Kontakte erhalten Sie im Internet unter der folgenden Adresse www.berufsgenealogie.net. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sibylle Brühl