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    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Daniel Fantore
    3. HI David, I've published several publications for my families. I've used Family Tree Maker for publishing trees. What are you wanting to do? dan

    09/08/2009 04:31:27
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Sam Koester
    3. Kristi; Ah, now I understand the issue. Thanks for the clarification. I agree with you on the FTM books. They certainly don't give one the flexibility that I would prefer. I just got the new FTM but; haven't explored the book options in it yet. It sure is different than previous versions. Does my mileage vary?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? Sam, the books I worked on weren't genealogies so much as memoirs. Only one had a tree in it and it's been a while, but I think we used one of the methods I described to get it in there from my m-i-l's PAF. I think if you are publishing to get your research and documentation out there, FTM's books are a great way to go. If you want to do more with format -- page numbers with custom footers, using styles for quotes, interspersing pictures amongst related anecdotes and all the other things that a word processor will do for you -- and have diagrams and charts as illustrations but not major points, you might want to go the word processor route. I would, anyway -- my FTM books look like Reports With Footnotes <grin> but I think I am a few versions of FTM behind so maybe I'm out of the loop on that. Does your mileage vary? --Kristi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Koester" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > Kristi; FTM has book publishing capabilities which include your family > tree. Is there a reason you don't just use their format? Just curious, > Sam > in CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > 1. What software, if any, do you use for genealogy? Am I undertanding > right, you'd like to include a particular diagram or diagrams from your > genealogy software in the book? What software are you using to write the > book? > > For example, if you use Family Tree Maker, the diagrams can be exported to > adobe acrobat reader (.pdf) files. And .pdf files can be included in > Microsoft Word files. Or you could show the diagrams on screen, use a > screen capture utility, then pull the capture into a graphics program to > crop/resize/etc. > > 2. How do you plan to publish the book? > > I've recently become a huge fan of Lulu.com and have helped several folks > write their memoirs, including photographs, for hardback and softback > publication. It is publish-on-demand, so you only pay for what you want, > no > > "inventory" of books. If you make a change to the book, you upload a new > file and all future editions printed will reflect the change. No setup > fees. They do have an electronic options, where you can charge for an > e-edition or your book, or make it available for free. The transition > from > a document file to their specified .pdf format is a tiny bit tricky, but > there are some nice tutorials. > > --Kristi in Iowa > >> ----------------------------- >> >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? >> >> >>> Hello to everyone, >>> >>> I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank >>> page >>> of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you >>> share what software if any you used? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> David >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2009 12:31:34
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Kristi Murdock
    3. Sam, the books I worked on weren't genealogies so much as memoirs. Only one had a tree in it and it's been a while, but I think we used one of the methods I described to get it in there from my m-i-l's PAF. I think if you are publishing to get your research and documentation out there, FTM's books are a great way to go. If you want to do more with format -- page numbers with custom footers, using styles for quotes, interspersing pictures amongst related anecdotes and all the other things that a word processor will do for you -- and have diagrams and charts as illustrations but not major points, you might want to go the word processor route. I would, anyway -- my FTM books look like Reports With Footnotes <grin> but I think I am a few versions of FTM behind so maybe I'm out of the loop on that. Does your mileage vary? --Kristi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Koester" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > Kristi; FTM has book publishing capabilities which include your family > tree. Is there a reason you don't just use their format? Just curious, > Sam > in CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > 1. What software, if any, do you use for genealogy? Am I undertanding > right, you'd like to include a particular diagram or diagrams from your > genealogy software in the book? What software are you using to write the > book? > > For example, if you use Family Tree Maker, the diagrams can be exported to > adobe acrobat reader (.pdf) files. And .pdf files can be included in > Microsoft Word files. Or you could show the diagrams on screen, use a > screen capture utility, then pull the capture into a graphics program to > crop/resize/etc. > > 2. How do you plan to publish the book? > > I've recently become a huge fan of Lulu.com and have helped several folks > write their memoirs, including photographs, for hardback and softback > publication. It is publish-on-demand, so you only pay for what you want, > no > > "inventory" of books. If you make a change to the book, you upload a new > file and all future editions printed will reflect the change. No setup > fees. They do have an electronic options, where you can charge for an > e-edition or your book, or make it available for free. The transition > from > a document file to their specified .pdf format is a tiny bit tricky, but > there are some nice tutorials. > > --Kristi in Iowa > >> ----------------------------- >> >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? >> >> >>> Hello to everyone, >>> >>> I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank >>> page >>> of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you >>> share what software if any you used? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> David >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2009 08:59:38
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Kristi Murdock
    3. 1. What software, if any, do you use for genealogy? Am I undertanding right, you'd like to include a particular diagram or diagrams from your genealogy software in the book? What software are you using to write the book? For example, if you use Family Tree Maker, the diagrams can be exported to adobe acrobat reader (.pdf) files. And .pdf files can be included in Microsoft Word files. Or you could show the diagrams on screen, use a screen capture utility, then pull the capture into a graphics program to crop/resize/etc. 2. How do you plan to publish the book? I've recently become a huge fan of Lulu.com and have helped several folks write their memoirs, including photographs, for hardback and softback publication. It is publish-on-demand, so you only pay for what you want, no "inventory" of books. If you make a change to the book, you upload a new file and all future editions printed will reflect the change. No setup fees. They do have an electronic options, where you can charge for an e-edition or your book, or make it available for free. The transition from a document file to their specified .pdf format is a tiny bit tricky, but there are some nice tutorials. --Kristi in Iowa > ----------------------------- > > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > >> Hello to everyone, >> >> I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank >> page >> of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you >> share what software if any you used? >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2009 07:51:20
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Robert Lipprandt
    3. Rather than a book (expensive in the long run along with updates), how about burning information to a DVD (includes photo's if you want to include them). Import/Export of previously used software does not appear to be an issue. Unfortunately, it involves an expensive software program called 'Wholey Genes.' But, advantage is the ease of use once everything is installed and information applied. It also has part of the program that deals with burning DVD's, labels for DVD's etc. To learn more, Google and go through their information sheets. There may be other programs that would have the same end result of family trees on DVD's. So... Books or DVD's, that is the question! I vote DVDs' because of the cost and ease of issuing updates. Regards, Bob~~ ----------------------------- Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > Hello to everyone, > > I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank page > of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you > share what software if any you used? > > Thanks, > > David > >

    09/08/2009 07:10:37
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Heidi Arno
    3. David Are you looking primarily for a blank organizational chart that others can fill in with their information? Visio is good for creating org charts. It's a Microsoft program that comes MS office, but may be free to download as well. It's pretty intuitive and would give you the blank boxes in a hierarchical structure. You should be able to save the result as a picture file and import it as a graphic into whatever you are using for your book. Heidi Hennig Arno [email protected] http://home.earthlink.net/~heidila6 (Smeesters Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heidila6/ (Bertrand Site) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Stroebel Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? Hello to everyone, I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank page of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you share what software if any you used? Thanks, David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2009 07:08:32
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. Sam Koester
    3. Kristi; FTM has book publishing capabilities which include your family tree. Is there a reason you don't just use their format? Just curious, Sam in CA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? 1. What software, if any, do you use for genealogy? Am I undertanding right, you'd like to include a particular diagram or diagrams from your genealogy software in the book? What software are you using to write the book? For example, if you use Family Tree Maker, the diagrams can be exported to adobe acrobat reader (.pdf) files. And .pdf files can be included in Microsoft Word files. Or you could show the diagrams on screen, use a screen capture utility, then pull the capture into a graphics program to crop/resize/etc. 2. How do you plan to publish the book? I've recently become a huge fan of Lulu.com and have helped several folks write their memoirs, including photographs, for hardback and softback publication. It is publish-on-demand, so you only pay for what you want, no "inventory" of books. If you make a change to the book, you upload a new file and all future editions printed will reflect the change. No setup fees. They do have an electronic options, where you can charge for an e-edition or your book, or make it available for free. The transition from a document file to their specified .pdf format is a tiny bit tricky, but there are some nice tutorials. --Kristi in Iowa > ----------------------------- > > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > >> Hello to everyone, >> >> I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank >> page >> of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you >> share what software if any you used? >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2009 05:56:45
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book?
    2. David Stroebel
    3. Hello to everyone, I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank page of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you share what software if any you used? Thanks, David

    09/08/2009 03:51:57
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983
    2. Herbert Teske
    3. That's OK, Dorothy.  Glad you got them to Thomas. Herb --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Dorothy Beckelman <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dorothy Beckelman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:13 PM Herb, Sorry that I did not send the Obits through the list, but I copied them from Ancestry.com (Historical Papers) and sent them to Thomas via his e-mail. Did not think that I could send them through the list. Was in a rush. I apologize. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Teske" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983 Thomas, I checked with the Chicago Tribune. The obituary of your relative appeared in print once on February 10, 1983 (Page A16) and twice on February 11, 1983 (Pages A8 and B8). Pages are printed in black and white and are full newspaper page reproductions. The cost is very expensive; $89.95 per page. I will try to find at least one reproduction at a lower cost. Herb Teske --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Thomas Ladzik <[email protected]> wrote: From: Thomas Ladzik <[email protected]> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 8:24 AM Hello listeners, is there anybody so kind and will do a lookup for me: Chicago Tribune obit from Feb 11 and Feb 10, 1983 Dombkowski, Lillian She is a relative from me. Many thanks from germany !! Thomas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3990 (20090406) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/07/2009 12:14:22
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983
    2. Dorothy Beckelman
    3. Herb, Sorry that I did not send the Obits through the list, but I copied them from Ancestry.com (Historical Papers) and sent them to Thomas via his e-mail. Did not think that I could send them through the list. Was in a rush. I apologize. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Teske" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983 Thomas, I checked with the Chicago Tribune. The obituary of your relative appeared in print once on February 10, 1983 (Page A16) and twice on February 11, 1983 (Pages A8 and B8). Pages are printed in black and white and are full newspaper page reproductions. The cost is very expensive; $89.95 per page. I will try to find at least one reproduction at a lower cost. Herb Teske --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Thomas Ladzik <[email protected]> wrote: From: Thomas Ladzik <[email protected]> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 8:24 AM Hello listeners, is there anybody so kind and will do a lookup for me: Chicago Tribune obit from Feb 11 and Feb 10, 1983 Dombkowski, Lillian She is a relative from me. Many thanks from germany !! Thomas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3990 (20090406) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

    09/06/2009 04:13:59
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983
    2. Herbert Teske
    3. Thomas, I checked with the Chicago Tribune. The obituary of your relative appeared in print once on February 10, 1983 (Page A16) and twice on February 11, 1983 (Pages A8 and B8).  Pages are printed in black and white and are full newspaper page reproductions.  The cost is very expensive; $89.95 per page.  I will try to find at least one reproduction at a lower cost. Herb Teske --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Thomas Ladzik <[email protected]> wrote: From: Thomas Ladzik <[email protected]> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 8:24 AM Hello listeners, is there anybody so kind and will do a lookup for me: Chicago Tribune obit from Feb 11 and Feb 10, 1983 Dombkowski, Lillian She is a relative from me. Many thanks from germany !! Thomas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2009 01:56:28
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] TESKE 1884-1885
    2. Hello, Herb! Just something to be aware of . . . In some of the old handwriting styles the T’s looks like F’s to us nowadays, and vice versa.  So when you say the ship’s manifest records the Teske surname as Ferke, that’s probably really not the case.  It may look like Ferke to you, and it may very well be incorrectly transcribed in indexes, etc., but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the register doesn’t actually say Teske if you compare letter by letter to an old handwriting guide. The  surname of some of my German ancestors starts with “F”, so I’ve experienced this problem myself.  I’ve found it really helpful to study the old handwriting styles, especially the letters your ancestor's surnames start with, to better understand how the names might be misread and incorrectly indexed. One handwriting link you might find helpful:  http://www.genealogia.fi/faq/faq031e.htm Cheryl S. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) rom: Herbert Teske <[email protected]> ubject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] TESKE 1884-1885 o: [email protected] essage-ID: <[email protected]> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Listers! My great grandfather, Johann Teske, a resident of Paris, Bessarabia, made his ay east and boarded the S.S. Belgenland (Captain W. W. Beynon) at the Antwerp, elgium, port in late 1884 or early 1885.? The ship docked in New York on 9 May 885 and immigrants were processed at Castle Garden. The ship's manifest records the Teske surname as "Ferke" and notes that Johann's ast residence was "Oserwein." (The surname recorded at Castle Garden was Ferk.") Does anyone know if the Castle Garden record might reveal additional information n this relative, and if so, where such information might be obtained? Authorities at CG have not responded to my inquiries.)? Does anyone know where might obtain the date of departure of the S.S. Belgenland from Antwerp?? inally, does anyone know of a village/town in Germany or Poland named Oserwein?" Any help/suggestions will be appreciated. Herb Teske

    09/06/2009 12:59:31
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] TESKE 1884-1885
    2. Herbert Teske
    3. Thanks, Cheryl.  And you are correct.  However, the letter "T" in this instance looked so much like an "F" that the recorder at Castle Garden also wrote "F".  He even shortened the surname to "Ferk."  I appreciate the link you sent. Herb --- On Sun, 9/6/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] TESKE 1884-1885 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 5:59 PM Hello, Herb! Just something to be aware of . . . In some of the old handwriting styles the T’s looks like F’s to us nowadays, and vice versa.  So when you say the ship’s manifest records the Teske surname as Ferke, that’s probably really not the case.  It may look like Ferke to you, and it may very well be incorrectly transcribed in indexes, etc., but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the register doesn’t actually say Teske if you compare letter by letter to an old handwriting guide. The  surname of some of my German ancestors starts with “F”, so I’ve experienced this problem myself.  I’ve found it really helpful to study the old handwriting styles, especially the letters your ancestor's surnames start with, to better understand how the names might be misread and incorrectly indexed. One handwriting link you might find helpful:  http://www.genealogia.fi/faq/faq031e.htm Cheryl S. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) rom: Herbert Teske <[email protected]> ubject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] TESKE 1884-1885 o: [email protected] essage-ID: <[email protected]> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Listers! My great grandfather, Johann Teske, a resident of Paris, Bessarabia, made his ay east and boarded the S.S. Belgenland (Captain W. W. Beynon) at the Antwerp, elgium, port in late 1884 or early 1885.? The ship docked in New York on 9 May 885 and immigrants were processed at Castle Garden. The ship's manifest records the Teske surname as "Ferke" and notes that Johann's ast residence was "Oserwein." (The surname recorded at Castle Garden was Ferk.") Does anyone know if the Castle Garden record might reveal additional information n this relative, and if so, where such information might be obtained? Authorities at CG have not responded to my inquiries.)? Does anyone know where might obtain the date of departure of the S.S. Belgenland from Antwerp?? inally, does anyone know of a village/town in Germany or Poland named Oserwein?" Any help/suggestions will be appreciated. Herb Teske ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2009 11:37:15
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] "Ein Colonist"?
    2. Joel S. Russell
    3. Veronica, Colon (Kolon) or Colonist was a generic term for a farmer. He didn't necessarily own a piece of land, but had rights to a piece of land. From the Latin colonia meaning "settled land, farm". Joel http://www.rafert.org/home At 04:17 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote: >A 1782 baptismal record in Stettin, Pommern notes the grandfather as >being "ein Colonist". Does anyone know what this might have meant >at this period of time? >Thanks. >Veronica > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2009 10:56:36
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Thank you
    2. Heidi Arno
    3. My thanks to all of you who responded to my query. Thanks to Robert for the correct spelling of the town. This has helped me a great deal as I could actually find the location on the map and put it into geographical perspective. Sounds like you have traveled there. Heidi Hennig Arno [email protected] http://home.earthlink.net/~heidila6 (Smeesters Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heidila6/ (Bertrand Site) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Copeland Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Getting Started with Prussian Roots Dear Heidi, It's great to see someone on this list with family from where my own family came from! First, the correct Polish name is Wegorzewo, and the first e has a little hook on it which makes the vowel nasalized, so it sounds like "Ven-go-ZHE-voh." Lovely location, on the north end of one of the prettiest of the Masurian Lakes. Unfortunately, the Russians shelled the daylights out of it in 1945 and most of the buildings are newer, in the cement-slab style of the Workers' Paradise. The parish church was only partially destroyed, has been rebuilt, and still has an organ built in the mid-1600s. Some of the public records were stored in the castle, which was bombed to shreds and those records lost. Others survive. There's a society in Germany of people who (or whose families) came from East Prussia and they are slowly publishing whatever records they can find. I don't have time to look it up right now, but will do so ASAP. Or just Google for Angerburg. Angerburg was the "county town" and a lot of people "from" there actually were from one of the villages scattered around. So you -may- have quite a bit of searching to do. More later, Bob Copeland -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heidi Arno Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Getting Started with Prussian Roots I am trying to figure out where to begin searching for my mother-in-law's line in East Prussia. She was born in Angerberg East Prussia in 1920. Her parents were Gustave Kiselewski, born 06 Nov 1882, and Marie Mosney, born 23 Sep 1881. Marie Mosney was born in Englestine, Germany. I did find Angerberg town on an online town name 'translator' that shows it is now called Wegorzyno, Poland. The family came to the US around 1924-25. They were Lutheran. I have heard that the Russians have the records and won't give them up, and/or that all records were destroyed. Family Search shows a number of films available under East Prussia, but the labels don't match place names that I have. Maybe some of you have advice on what to look for first or how to begin to narrow the search? Heidi Hennig Arno <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <blocked::http://home.earthlink.net/~heidila6> http://home.earthlink.net/~heidila6 (Smeesters Site) <blocked::http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heidila6/> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heidila6/ (Bertrand Site) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2009 10:27:01
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] "Ein Colonist"?
    2. Veronica Malmberg
    3. A 1782 baptismal record in Stettin, Pommern notes the grandfather as being "ein Colonist". Does anyone know what this might have meant at this period of time? Thanks. Veronica

    09/06/2009 10:17:09
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] KRUGER, KIELBLOCK, FLEISHFRESER, KASLOW, HARTFIEL, MULLER, BRIX, HESSE
    2. Phil Butler
    3. tks Yvonne. Will certainly take that advice. Have quite a bit of info on the families, just can't seem to get any further. But that's the joy of doing the tree. tks again. phil..... sunny Qld (down under)..... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yvonne Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2009 7:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] KRUGER, KIELBLOCK, FLEISHFRESER, KASLOW, HARTFIEL, MULLER, BRIX, HESSE Hi Phil, I always start with www.familysearch.org and I would the surnames in search engine. For Kruger, I would also try Krueger. Fleishfreser I would put in Fleischfresser. Muller or Mueller is a very common surname. Hopefully you have specific names and dates for that name. Hartfiel might have been Hartfeil? Give that a try and see if you can up come with anything. Yvonne Scholz, Sacramento, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Butler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:12 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] KRUGER, KIELBLOCK, FLEISHFRESER, KASLOW, HARTFIEL,MULLER, BRIX, HESSE > Hi, > > > > thought I would resend this email but with all the names in the subject, > in > case the towns I used in the last mail, didn't attract any attention. > > > > rgds > > > > phil..... > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > KRUGER,KIELBLOCK, FLEISHFRESER, KASLOW, HARTFIEL, > > MULLER, BRIX, HESSE > > > > I am searching for further information on the above families from > > the subject towns. My wife and I are very curious to find out more about > > the families, not just from a date point of view but what they might have > > done for a living, what religion they might have been (Jewish seems a > > possibility). Not sure where to go from here, so I am hoping someone > > can point me in the right direction. > > > > Johann Friedrich KRUGER & Sophie MULLER both born in Stendell > > around 1750s/1760s. Their son was; > > Johann Friedrich KRUGER (1783-1829), bd Stendell. He married; > > Charlotte KIELBLOCK (1785- 1862), bd Stendell. > > > > Their son was; > > Johann Ludwig KRUGER (1817-1878, b Stendell d Queensland, > > Australia. He married; > > Dorothea Christine KASLOW (1819-1898) b Stendell d Queensland, > > Australia. All I know about Dorothea's mother, is that her name was > > Henriette FLEISHFRESSER bd Stendell. > > > > Their daughter was; > > Ernstine Wilhelmina Augusta KRUGER (1841-1924), b Stendell > > d Queensland, Australia. She married; > > Carl Wilhelm Ferdinand HARTFIEL (1840-1920), b Passow d > > Queensland, Australia. > > > > Their daughter was; > > Augusta Wilhelmine Friederika HARTFIEL (1867-1944) bd Queensland > > Gustav Car BRIX (? ?) b? dQueensland > > > > > > > > As extras; > > Carl's HARTFIEL's parents; > > Carl Wilhelm HARTFIEL (1803-?), bd Passow. > > Christine MULLER (1804-?), bd Passow. > > and grandparents; > > Christian Fredrich HARTFIEL (1774-1848), bd Passow > > Anne Louise MULLER (1772-1857), bd Passow > > > > Gustav Carl BRIX's parents; > > August BRIX (? ?) b Prussia d Australia > > Magdelena HESSE (? ?) b Prussia d Australia > > > > Not sure if the BRIX and HESSE families are from the same towns as the > > rest, I am only assuming. > > > > Any and all additional information greatly appreciated. > > > > rgds > > > > Phil..... > > o'cast Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2344 - Release Date: 09/03/09 18:05:00

    09/06/2009 10:07:21
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] lookup please: Chicago Tribune obits 1983
    2. Thomas Ladzik
    3. Hello listeners, is there anybody so kind and will do a lookup for me: Chicago Tribune obit from Feb 11 and Feb 10, 1983 Dombkowski, Lillian She is a relative from me. Many thanks from germany !! Thomas

    09/06/2009 09:24:05
    1. Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Osterwein maybe instead of Oserwein
    2. Great job, Yvonne - and you're exactly right about spelling. No wonder we go 'round and 'round! Maureen In a message dated 9/5/2009 5:32:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Herb, I kept looking at the the name Oserwein and finally I thought perhaps there is a letter missing. As nobody could find Oserwein I found Osterwein in what is now Polen. Just a thought! Many times during research I come across towns that have been misspelled at one time or another. Hope this helps. Yvonne, Sacramento, California http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ziemer/HEINRICH/osterwein. html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/05/2009 05:16:22
    1. [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] KOEHLER - from Klinkow
    2. Leslie KOHLER
    3. Hello, Now that we have more information about my dear husband's great-grandfather I have rejoined this list. Christian Friedrich Wilhelm KOEHLER was born 22 Sept 1837 in Klinkow, Brandenburg, Prussia. >From his marriage record we find that his parents were Maria BRAND & Christian KOEHLER. We would love to know if they had other children, but so far, have not been able to locate that information. Although Christian (born 1837) emigrated out of Germany to the United States in 1863, we are still hoping to connect with any of the family who remained in Europe, as well as any in the US.. Naturally, we cannot be certain of the KOEHLER spelling, but this is the most common spelling we have found, thus far, for this US prodigenator of the family. Leslie Kohler - Glendale, Arizona, USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    09/05/2009 04:53:26