Chris According to Wikipedia, Bremerhaven was only included in Prussia from 1939-1947. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremerhaven David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Anders-Tritt To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] GREVE Family - Bremerhaven Dear Listers I get the feeling that I may have posted my message on the wrong site - was Bremerhaven included in Prussia prior to 1827 - if not could someone tell me which Rootsweb site I should be on? Thanks Chris in Hahndorf

Hi, where did you get the last name Keissel from? From the censuses? This name does not sound right or look right. It could very well be that when they came over here, that the spelling of the name got changed. I even looked it up in my German name book and it's not there. I would look maybe for "Kessel" or "Keiser" or "Kaiser" or even for "Kassel" or "Kessler". May be there is a possibility to get a death certificate for Magdalena who died in 1898 in New Orleans. That might have both her father's name and her mother's maiden name on it. Also get her brother's death certificate from 1896, that hopefully will give you the same family names for the father and the mother. Once you have those copies you might be able to go back and find more out about this family. Good luck Yvonne in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Johnston" <familyresearcher123@gmail.com> To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:49 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Peter Keis(s)el b. c. 1808 > Hi List: > > I am again searching for my Keissel's. They have been my biggest brickwall > for a good 15 years. I am on a mission to break down this wall this year. > > Anyway, Peter Keis(s)el married Catherine ???. Peter & Catherine were > found > in the 1850 Harrison County, Mississippi Census with their 3 children: > Catherine b. 1838 - Germany, Helena (listed on census, but should be * > Magdlena* b. 1843 - Louisiana) & Jacob b. 1847 - Mississippi. I have not > been able to locate them from 1850 until Magdlena shows up marrying > Alexander Henry Johnston (A.H. Johnston) in New Orleans, LA in 1863. As > far > as Peter, Catherine & Catherine goes I have not found them since the 1850 > census. I found Jacob living with the White family in 1880 census & dying > in > New Orleans in 1896. Magdlena dies in 1898 in New Orleans, but that's all > the info I have. > > Any suggestions or advice is welcomed. > > Thank you! > > > > Tami Johnston - New Orleans, LA, USA > www.johnstonfamily.tribalpages.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List: I am again searching for my Keissel's. They have been my biggest brickwall for a good 15 years. I am on a mission to break down this wall this year. Anyway, Peter Keis(s)el married Catherine ???. Peter & Catherine were found in the 1850 Harrison County, Mississippi Census with their 3 children: Catherine b. 1838 - Germany, Helena (listed on census, but should be * Magdlena* b. 1843 - Louisiana) & Jacob b. 1847 - Mississippi. I have not been able to locate them from 1850 until Magdlena shows up marrying Alexander Henry Johnston (A.H. Johnston) in New Orleans, LA in 1863. As far as Peter, Catherine & Catherine goes I have not found them since the 1850 census. I found Jacob living with the White family in 1880 census & dying in New Orleans in 1896. Magdlena dies in 1898 in New Orleans, but that's all the info I have. Any suggestions or advice is welcomed. Thank you! Tami Johnston - New Orleans, LA, USA www.johnstonfamily.tribalpages.com

Thank you, Ella. Yes, I am familiar with WorldCat; I use it in a slightly different way. I go to their advanced search page; then, where it says "Search for:" I enter the name of the town. And just to the right, instead of searching by "Keyword" I choose "Publisher Location." On the next line down I enter the state and also choose "Publisher Location." And, of course, if you want an entire state you can just skip the town. A bit further down the page, where it says "Limit to" you can choose any of a large number of languages. And just below that I check "Serial Publications" and then click "Search." This should bring up all of the newspapers published in that town, in that language, and available in libraries. It will also get magazines and a few other miscellanea, such as college catalogs, but mostly newspapers. If you then select one of them you will get a page of information about that particular newspaper; one item is: "Libraries Worldwide that own item." With that information you can go back to your local librarian and ask him to get it via inter-library loan. I recommend printing the page with the list of libraries so there is no confusion. And, of course, if you don't know how to get to WorldCat, your librarian will help; it has become a standard tool for librarians, they are all familiar with it. But that doesn't answer my original question. I suppose it was unrealistic to begin with. Maybe we need a project to assign people to look at these German newspapers and identify the ones that have information useful to genealogists. Jerry > You will find German newspapers in worldcat.org.  Worldcat holds records for > all kinds of library materials from participating libraries worldwide. > > To start, search for *German American newspapers Illinois*. > >From the results page, select a title to find out which libraries have it. > Then select a library to see more detailed information about the newspaper. > > Another way which will retrieve better results (fewer hits, that are more > relevant) is to use the subject heading: > *su:German Americans Illinois Newspapers* > Copy and paste the bold text above (including the *su:*) into the search > line.  If you are looking for another state, just change the name of the > state. > > Two more ways to narrow your results more in order to get results that are > more relevant : > >   1. Look at the options in the left-hand column of the results page and >   make selections as you see fit. >   2. Replace the name of the state with the name of the city of interest. > > Because newsprint yellows quickly and becomes brittle with age, old issues > are preserved on microform, which can be viewed on microform readers in the > library. The machines also make copies. There is usually a per-page charge > for copies. > > Library staff are always ready to help you, just ask! > > Kind regards, > > Ella Melik

Many thanks to Rhonda for giving me the ship that Friedrich and Mary/Maria arrived in South Australia on - "Wandhram" on 8 August 1854. Does anyone have information on their marriage and births? Mary/Maria TEDE - Bremerhaven Cord Friedrich GREVE - 1795 - Bremerhaven Married? Looking forward to an answer Regards Chris in Hahndorf South Australia

Jerry and others, You will find German newspapers in worldcat.org. Worldcat holds records for all kinds of library materials from participating libraries worldwide. To start, search for *German American newspapers Illinois*. >From the results page, select a title to find out which libraries have it. Then select a library to see more detailed information about the newspaper. Another way which will retrieve better results (fewer hits, that are more relevant) is to use the subject heading: *su:German Americans Illinois Newspapers* Copy and paste the bold text above (including the *su:*) into the search line. If you are looking for another state, just change the name of the state. Two more ways to narrow your results more in order to get results that are more relevant : 1. Look at the options in the left-hand column of the results page and make selections as you see fit. 2. Replace the name of the state with the name of the city of interest. Because newsprint yellows quickly and becomes brittle with age, old issues are preserved on microform, which can be viewed on microform readers in the library. The machines also make copies. There is usually a per-page charge for copies. Library staff are always ready to help you, just ask! Kind regards, Ella Melik

I am also interested in German Language newspapers. Are there any for California or Nebraska? I'm interested in the 1870's. Thanks, J. Meyer -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Kattke" <g.kattke@ieee.org> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:52 PM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] German Language Newspapers Northern Illinois > My grandfather, Julius Kottke, came to the US in 1884; I found his > "Declaration of Intent" at Freeport, Illinois, dated 1889. I have been > frustrated for years attempting to trace him. I would like to try > German language newspapers, but the ones that I have seen said very > little about Germans here in the US; they were mostly news from the > "old country." Does anyone on this list know of a German-language > paper from northern Illinois that contains news of German immigrants? > > Thanks > Jerry Kattke > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My grandfather, Julius Kottke, came to the US in 1884; I found his "Declaration of Intent" at Freeport, Illinois, dated 1889. I have been frustrated for years attempting to trace him. I would like to try German language newspapers, but the ones that I have seen said very little about Germans here in the US; they were mostly news from the "old country." Does anyone on this list know of a German-language paper from northern Illinois that contains news of German immigrants? Thanks Jerry Kattke

Hullo Listers I am looking for Anna Catherina GREVE born c1827 in or near BREMERHAVEN (Lutheran Records in South Australia) - Anna migrated to South Australia from Hamburg on board the "President Schmidt" in 1848. She was a Milliner Her parents were Cord (Cordi or Cort) Friedrich GREVE (born c1795 died in Sth Aust in 1857) and Mary/Maria TEDE of Bremerhaven. Cord was a Carpenter I have no information of this couple's marriage or Mary/Maria's birth. I also have no information of when this couple came to South Australia. However I do know Mrs GREVE travelled to New York in 1866 from Adelaide, Sth Australia and died in USA Any help would be fantastic Regards Chris in Hahndorf South Australia

Can someone recommend a good web site(s) or other sources for finding Pfafferode, Thuringen records from 1800-1850?

> Hello Connye, > > on ancestry.com there is a Sally OMeara, Placerville, California, USA, > she ownes a tree "Family of Michael Ferch of MN" > > is this the family? > > Anton LACOMBE > * Alsace > > 1 son Friedrich W. LACOMBE > * 7 Feb 1824 in Germany > + 22 Jan 1905 in Yellowbank, Minnesota, USA > oo Charlotte KRAUSE > * 09 Feb 1831 in Germany > + 03 Mar 1898 in Yellowbank, Minnesota/USA > > they had 6 children, one of them was Otto > * 29 MAR 1863 in West Prussia > + 03 SEP 1938 in Hennepin,Minnesota,USA > oo Sophia Ferch > > they arrived on 7 Apr 1873 in New York from Bremen with the ship "Donau" > > Charlotte and Friedrich W. were buried at Emmanuel Cemetery, Yellowbank, > Laq Qui Parle County, Minnesota > > ----- > > !!! > just found a Friedrich Wilhelm Lacombe on familysearch: > *07 FEB 1824 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , Ostpreussen, Preussen > (district Preussisch Holland, East Prussia, Prussia) > father: > Johann Anton Lacombe > * 1793 in Toulouse, France > mother: > Anna Lemke > * 1784 in Lauck, Krs.prs.holland, East Prussia, Prussia > + 17 Feb 1839 > married 29 DEC 1823 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , East Prussia, Prussia > > the father of Johann Anton Lacombe: > Johann LACOMBE > * Abt 1767 in Toulouse > > http://tinyurl.com/66jngxm > > the submitter to familysearch was: > > HEINZ P. LIEDTKE > 8292 BRYCE DR > SANDY,UT,USA 84070 > Submission: AF95-112083 > you may find him and ask him for more details > > > b.t.w Toulouse is and was NOT in Alsace! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse > > > the city of Lauck: > http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/City.asp?CitNum=14680 > > http://maps.google.com/?q=54.2,+19.88+%28Lauck%29&iwloc=A&hl=en > > the church book (only 1799-1829) of Lauck in familysearch: > > http://tinyurl.com/4j7k2y7 > > > hope it helps! > > greetings from Germany > > > hello Connye! maybe you have to look for "Jean" = Johann and "Jean Antoine" = Johann Anton also, sorry, forgot that on my last post! http://www.geneanet.org/search/?name=Lacombe&place=Toulouse&x=27&y=13 greetings from Germany !

Connye LaCombe, Ed.D., CH wrote: > So now where is Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , > Ostpreussen, Preussen (district Preussisch Holland, East Prussia, Prussia)? Preussisch Holland is now Paslek, and lies between Dvansk (Danzig) Poland, and Kaleningrad, Russia -- about as far north-east as Prussia ever was. Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser Buffalo County NEGenWeb --www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/

Omigosh! This looks to be a perfect match! I will contact the submitter! Now I have a destination in France - just looked at the map - this is way south and Prussia is way north! I may not get to both places this trip. I think I'll find Friedrich. So now where is Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , Ostpreussen, Preussen (district Preussisch Holland, East Prussia, Prussia)? -----Original Message----- From: Timmy Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:20 AM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Friedrich W. LaCombe Hello Connye, on ancestry.com there is a Sally OMeara, Placerville, California, USA, she ownes a tree "Family of Michael Ferch of MN" is this the family? Anton LACOMBE * Alsace 1 son Friedrich W. LACOMBE * 7 Feb 1824 in Germany + 22 Jan 1905 in Yellowbank, Minnesota, USA oo Charlotte KRAUSE * 09 Feb 1831 in Germany + 03 Mar 1898 in Yellowbank, Minnesota/USA they had 6 children, one of them was Otto * 29 MAR 1863 in West Prussia + 03 SEP 1938 in Hennepin,Minnesota,USA oo Sophia Ferch they arrived on 7 Apr 1873 in New York from Bremen with the ship "Donau" Charlotte and Friedrich W. were buried at Emmanuel Cemetery, Yellowbank, Laq Qui Parle County, Minnesota ----- !!! just found a Friedrich Wilhelm Lacombe on familysearch: *07 FEB 1824 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , Ostpreussen, Preussen (district Preussisch Holland, East Prussia, Prussia) father: Johann Anton Lacombe * 1793 in Toulouse, France mother: Anna Lemke * 1784 in Lauck, Krs.prs.holland, East Prussia, Prussia + 17 Feb 1839 married 29 DEC 1823 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , East Prussia, Prussia the father of Johann Anton Lacombe: Johann LACOMBE * Abt 1767 in Toulouse http://tinyurl.com/66jngxm the submitter to familysearch was: HEINZ P. LIEDTKE 8292 BRYCE DR SANDY,UT,USA 84070 Submission: AF95-112083 you may find him and ask him for more details b.t.w Toulouse is and was NOT in Alsace! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse the city of Lauck: http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/City.asp?CitNum=14680 http://maps.google.com/?q=54.2,+19.88+%28Lauck%29&iwloc=A&hl=en the church book (only 1799-1829) of Lauck in familysearch: http://tinyurl.com/4j7k2y7 hope it helps! greetings from Germany ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, this is the tree. Sally and I have corresponded and I have pretty much all of the same information she has about the LaCombes. -----Original Message----- From: Timmy Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:51 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Fwd: Friedrich W. LaCombe / Connye > Hello Connye, > > on ancestry.com there is a Sally OMeara, Placerville, California, USA, > she ownes a tree "Family of Michael Ferch of MN" > > is this the family? > > Anton LACOMBE > * Alsace > > 1 son Friedrich W. LACOMBE > * 7 Feb 1824 in Germany > + 22 Jan 1905 in Yellowbank, Minnesota, USA > oo Charlotte KRAUSE > * 09 Feb 1831 in Germany > + 03 Mar 1898 in Yellowbank, Minnesota/USA > > they had 6 children, one of them was Otto > * 29 MAR 1863 in West Prussia > + 03 SEP 1938 in Hennepin,Minnesota,USA > oo Sophia Ferch > > they arrived on 7 Apr 1873 in New York from Bremen with the ship "Donau" > > Charlotte and Friedrich W. were buried at Emmanuel Cemetery, Yellowbank, > Laq Qui Parle County, Minnesota > > ----- > > !!! > just found a Friedrich Wilhelm Lacombe on familysearch: > *07 FEB 1824 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , Ostpreussen, Preussen > (district Preussisch Holland, East Prussia, Prussia) > father: > Johann Anton Lacombe > * 1793 in Toulouse, France > mother: > Anna Lemke > * 1784 in Lauck, Krs.prs.holland, East Prussia, Prussia > + 17 Feb 1839 > married 29 DEC 1823 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , East Prussia, Prussia > > the father of Johann Anton Lacombe: > Johann LACOMBE > * Abt 1767 in Toulouse > > http://tinyurl.com/66jngxm > > the submitter to familysearch was: > > HEINZ P. LIEDTKE > 8292 BRYCE DR > SANDY,UT,USA 84070 > Submission: AF95-112083 > you may find him and ask him for more details > > > b.t.w Toulouse is and was NOT in Alsace! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse > > > the city of Lauck: > http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/City.asp?CitNum=14680 > > http://maps.google.com/?q=54.2,+19.88+%28Lauck%29&iwloc=A&hl=en > > the church book (only 1799-1829) of Lauck in familysearch: > > http://tinyurl.com/4j7k2y7 > > > hope it helps! > > greetings from Germany > > > hello Connye! maybe you have to look for "Jean" = Johann and "Jean Antoine" = Johann Anton also, sorry, forgot that on my last post! http://www.geneanet.org/search/?name=Lacombe&place=Toulouse&x=27&y=13 greetings from Germany ! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Connye, on ancestry.com there is a Sally OMeara, Placerville, California, USA, she ownes a tree "Family of Michael Ferch of MN" is this the family? Anton LACOMBE * Alsace 1 son Friedrich W. LACOMBE * 7 Feb 1824 in Germany + 22 Jan 1905 in Yellowbank, Minnesota, USA oo Charlotte KRAUSE * 09 Feb 1831 in Germany + 03 Mar 1898 in Yellowbank, Minnesota/USA they had 6 children, one of them was Otto * 29 MAR 1863 in West Prussia + 03 SEP 1938 in Hennepin,Minnesota,USA oo Sophia Ferch they arrived on 7 Apr 1873 in New York from Bremen with the ship "Donau" Charlotte and Friedrich W. were buried at Emmanuel Cemetery, Yellowbank, Laq Qui Parle County, Minnesota ----- !!! just found a Friedrich Wilhelm Lacombe on familysearch: *07 FEB 1824 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , Ostpreussen, Preussen (district Preussisch Holland, East Prussia, Prussia) father: Johann Anton Lacombe * 1793 in Toulouse, France mother: Anna Lemke * 1784 in Lauck, Krs.prs.holland, East Prussia, Prussia + 17 Feb 1839 married 29 DEC 1823 in Lauck,Krs Prs Holland, , East Prussia, Prussia the father of Johann Anton Lacombe: Johann LACOMBE * Abt 1767 in Toulouse http://tinyurl.com/66jngxm the submitter to familysearch was: HEINZ P. LIEDTKE 8292 BRYCE DR SANDY,UT,USA 84070 Submission: AF95-112083 you may find him and ask him for more details b.t.w Toulouse is and was NOT in Alsace! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse the city of Lauck: http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/City.asp?CitNum=14680 http://maps.google.com/?q=54.2,+19.88+%28Lauck%29&iwloc=A&hl=en the church book (only 1799-1829) of Lauck in familysearch: http://tinyurl.com/4j7k2y7 hope it helps! greetings from Germany

Patsy, The son may also have assumed that Pommern meant the province... Have you any idea whether he had been to Germany? It will be great if the actual place of birth has now been found and you can hope to look for records. Bronwyn. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patsy Hand <patsy2931@suddenlink.net>wrote: > Gee, this makes perfect sense except the obit was written by Karl > Schuenemann's son who worked for the newspaper that printed the obit. This > was a German language newspaper in Cuero, TX. I have a copy of the obit and > it reads " Provinz Pommern, Deut_chland". It is perfectly possible even the > son didn't know where daddy was b. After 40 years of looking for him this > is > a new twist. I'm waiting to hear from the person who entered this info on > Ancestry.com Family Trees. Maybe they have the source they got this from. > Patsy Hand > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gloepertz@comcast.net> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Armstrong" <davidrli@iinet.net.au> > > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:59:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > > > Cochem-Zell is a Kreis (County) in the Rheinland-Palatinate State of > > modern Germany > > < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochem-Zell > It was acquired by the > > Kingdom of Prussia in 1816. > > > > Cochem-Zell has nothing to do with the province of Pommern (English: > > Pomerania), which is on the other side of Germany, but which also > belonged > > to Prussia. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pommern > > > > > David Armstrong > > Maylands, > > Western Australia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Patsy Hand > > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:31 AM > > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > > > > > Just today I discovered the following: > > Can someone tell me if this makes any sense. This is supposed to be the > > name > > of the town my gg grandfather was b. in.(1836) His obit here in the US > > says > > he was b. in Pommern Prov. Germany > > Patsy > > > > It amkes perfect sense to me that he was born in Pommern on the Mosel > > River, on the left bank about 12km downstream from Cochem. The closest > > larger town would be Treis-Karden, about 1-2km downstream from Pommern. > > I'l have to say that Pommern is a blinker, you blink and you missed it. > > > > Guenter in Michigan > > >

Good morning Patsy Lets go over the obit.  Pommern Provinz- Northeastern part of Germany Kreis Cochem - Zell  - Rheinland at that time, central western Germany, the county in which Pommern is located. Rheinland-Pfalz - that is today's German State in which Pommern lies. Pommern (the community) - a town near Cochem on the Mosel River, by the way it has a nice campground on the river and you can also get there by train, at least since about 1875. This is all secondary information so you also have to prove it out. You can't accept all that is on Ancestry as the Gospel truth. I can show you in the supplied family trees, they have people born in places they never were. I'l give you an example, especially since you have a connection to Texas. Lets say a person born in Texas, a few miles north of Mexico, goes on a trip, about 35 miles to the south and comes to Three Rivers, his next stop is in Belgium, a couple of miles further south. How can that be, Texas, Mexico, no where near Belgium, and after all Three rivers is on the St Lawrence River in Quebec. Well, you happend to be in New York State, within spitting distance of Syracuse, not the one in ancient Greece. The assumptions you may have made when starting to read this took you in quite a different direction, didn't it. Guenter in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patsy Hand" <patsy2931@suddenlink.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:50:48 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town Gee, this makes perfect sense except the obit was written by Karl Schuenemann's son who worked for the newspaper that printed the obit. This was a German language newspaper in Cuero, TX. I have a copy of the obit and it reads " Provinz Pommern, Deut_chland". It is perfectly possible even the son didn't know where daddy was b. After 40 years of looking for him this is a new twist. I'm waiting to hear from the person who entered this info on Ancestry.com Family Trees. Maybe they have the source they got this from. Patsy Hand ----- Original Message ----- From: <gloepertz@comcast.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Armstrong" <davidrli@iinet.net.au> > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:59:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > Cochem-Zell is a Kreis (County) in the Rheinland-Palatinate State of > modern Germany > < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochem-Zell > It was acquired by the > Kingdom of Prussia in 1816. > > Cochem-Zell has nothing to do with the province of Pommern (English: > Pomerania), which is on the other side of Germany, but which also belonged > to Prussia. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pommern > > > David Armstrong > Maylands, > Western Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patsy Hand > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:31 AM > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > > Just today I discovered the following: > Can someone tell me if this makes any sense. This is supposed to be the > name > of the town my gg grandfather was b. in.(1836) His obit here in the US > says > he was b. in Pommern Prov. Germany > Patsy > > It amkes perfect sense to me that he was born in Pommern on the Mosel > River, on the left bank about 12km downstream from Cochem. The closest > larger town would be Treis-Karden, about 1-2km downstream from Pommern. > I'l have to say that Pommern is a blinker, you blink and you missed it. > > Guenter in Michigan > > > > > > > In Ancestry.com-Family Trees > Pommern, Cochem-Zell,Rheinland-Plalz, Germany > Thanks, Patsy Hand > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Connye LaCombe, Ed.D., CH wrote: > Friedrich emigrated to America from Bremen in 1873 with his wife Charlotte and several children including Otto who was born in Prussia in 1862. Supposedly Friedrich was born in the Alsace region. I have no idea where to go from here to find birthplaces and other information about this family. Friedrich’s father, Anton, supposedly served with Napoleon’s army. I’m open to suggestions on where to look. We are traveling to France and Germany this summer hoping to find out more information, but at the present can’t even imagine where to start. Hi Connye, Have you found his death certificate? or that of his wife? Or of each of his children -- sometimes death certificates give the birthplace of the parents as well as of the deceased. So check the children of the immigrant children, as well. Have you found the baptism records, confirmation records and marriage records of each of the children? They, too, might give the birth place. There's even a possibility that a WWI draft registration might hold a clue. Are there families that they seemed to have connections with -- godparents of their children, witnesses at marriages, that sort of thing? Those other families might (or might not) be from the same village in the old county. In other words, exhaust all possibilities in this county to find the names of the home villages. Where did they settle in the US? Different states and counties have different records available, and one of us on this list might be able to give you specific suggestions if we know what city, county and or state records you are looking for. Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser Buffalo County NEGenWeb --www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/

Thanks, interesting little travel log you took me on. Karl was Lutheran if that makes any difference. In the Protestant church parish register of births, marriages, deaths, confirmations and communicants for Schwarzenau, Posen Germany, now Czerniejewo, Poznan, Poland Karl and wife's children ranging in date from 1863 to 1875 are in these church records. After more browsing this morning, I find this place as the birth place for Karl's wife, Wilhelmine Hermine nee Kluge. Schossvippach, Sommerda, Thueringen, Germany. Where are these people finding this information? Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: <gloepertz@comcast.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > > Good morning Patsy > > Lets go over the obit. > > Pommern Provinz- Northeastern part of Germany > > Kreis Cochem - Zell - Rheinland at that time, central western Germany, the > county in which Pommern is located. > > Rheinland-Pfalz - that is today's German State in which Pommern lies. > > Pommern (the community) - a town near Cochem on the Mosel River, by the > way it has a nice campground on the river and you can also get there by > train, at least since about 1875. > > This is all secondary information so you also have to prove it out. You > can't accept all that is on Ancestry as the Gospel truth. I can show you > in the supplied family trees, they have people born in places they never > were. > > > > I'l give you an example, especially since you have a connection to Texas. > > Lets say a person born in Texas, a few miles north of Mexico, goes on a > trip, about 35 miles to the south and comes to Three Rivers, his next stop > is in Belgium, a couple of miles further south. How can that be, Texas, > Mexico, no where near Belgium, and after all Three rivers is on the St > Lawrence River in Quebec. Well, you happend to be in New York State, > within spitting distance of Syracuse, not the one in ancient Greece. > > The assumptions you may have made when starting to read this took you in > quite a different direction, didn't it. > > Guenter in Michigan > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patsy Hand" <patsy2931@suddenlink.net> > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:50:48 AM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > Gee, this makes perfect sense except the obit was written by Karl > Schuenemann's son who worked for the newspaper that printed the obit. This > was a German language newspaper in Cuero, TX. I have a copy of the obit > and > it reads " Provinz Pommern, Deut_chland". It is perfectly possible even > the > son didn't know where daddy was b. After 40 years of looking for him this > is > a new twist. I'm waiting to hear from the person who entered this info on > Ancestry.com Family Trees. Maybe they have the source they got this from. > Patsy Hand > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gloepertz@comcast.net> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Armstrong" <davidrli@iinet.net.au> >> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:59:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town >> >> Cochem-Zell is a Kreis (County) in the Rheinland-Palatinate State of >> modern Germany >> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochem-Zell > It was acquired by the >> Kingdom of Prussia in 1816. >> >> Cochem-Zell has nothing to do with the province of Pommern (English: >> Pomerania), which is on the other side of Germany, but which also >> belonged >> to Prussia. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pommern > >> >> David Armstrong >> Maylands, >> Western Australia >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Patsy Hand >> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:31 AM >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town >> >> >> Just today I discovered the following: >> Can someone tell me if this makes any sense. This is supposed to be the >> name >> of the town my gg grandfather was b. in.(1836) His obit here in the US >> says >> he was b. in Pommern Prov. Germany >> Patsy >> >> It amkes perfect sense to me that he was born in Pommern on the Mosel >> River, on the left bank about 12km downstream from Cochem. The closest >> larger town would be Treis-Karden, about 1-2km downstream from Pommern. >> I'l have to say that Pommern is a blinker, you blink and you missed it. >> >> Guenter in Michigan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In Ancestry.com-Family Trees >> Pommern, Cochem-Zell,Rheinland-Plalz, Germany >> Thanks, Patsy Hand >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The son, Otto would only have been in his early twenties when his father died in 1915. I can't imagine that he had been to Germany, probably never unless he ended up there in WWI. He would have been the correct age. I have sent some emails to the folks who have that place of birth for Karl. Maybe they will answer. On Karl's declaration of intention it says he was born in Pommern Germany. Again, I have always assumed this was the state not a town. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bronwyn Klimach" <bronklimach@gmail.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] question about name of town > Patsy, > The son may also have assumed that Pommern meant the province... > Have you any idea whether he had been to Germany? > It will be great if the actual place of birth has now been found and you > can > hope to look for records. > Bronwyn. >