It may have been a mistake but it confirms the info. Please  note the answer that I gave to Avelino. You should connect. The offer is also extended to you to get you started. I have to go to the archives anyway. Please not that in current Portuguese is spelled Barbosa.    José Fernandes ________________________________ From: sophie <ssouza173@gsinet.net> To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 1:15:24 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Fw: Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo Hello Jose,     Thank you for taking the time to look this up for me.  Yes my G. Grandmother Joana was a Barboza as far as I have known , but know saying that I have seen my grandparents marriage certificate and it had my G. Grandmother's name on it and it read: Joana Mendes. Which I wonder at the time if it was a mistake......... maybe not then.  I am thinking that they are cousins if I had to guess. But thank you. You have been most helpful. Thanks again Sophie Sophie, If you do a search on the Madeira Archives you possibly find these two individuals. They may be as follows: Manuel Fernandes Pombo married Joana Mendes da Encarnação (did she change her name to Barbosa?) in 1904. This is the only Manuel Fernandes Pombo married to a Joana in Ponta do Pargo and for that matter in the whole island. António Fernandes Pombo married Maria Clara de Jesus in 1910. Same age? Are they twins? Cousins? If these seem to be the people you are searching, you should request a copy of the marriage document. It will contain the parents. Good luck. José Fernandes ________________________________ From: Sophie Souza <kindnessmatters4all@gmail.com> To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:32:40 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo Hello I am trying to figure out a family relation between Manuel Fernandes Pombo and Antonio F. Pombo both from Ponto do Pargo they were together on the ship Olympic 1912. they were both 29.  If this is the Manuel Pombo that I am related to he would born about 1881 his wife was Joanna (Barboza) Pombo. Thanks you. Sophie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Jose, I agree that confirms the information. And thank you. Through facebook I have connected with Avelino for a few weeks now, he and I have been trying to figure out our relatives exact connection. I don't seem to see a post here for Avelino...... So I am not sure what the offer is that you extended? Hope to hear more. And thank you it truly is appreciated. Sophie ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Fw: Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo It may have been a mistake but it confirms the info. Please note the answer that I gave to Avelino. You should connect. The offer is also extended to you to get you started. I have to go to the archives anyway. Please not that in current Portuguese is spelled Barbosa. José Fernandes ________________________________ From: sophie <ssouza173@gsinet.net> To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 1:15:24 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Fw: Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo Hello Jose, Thank you for taking the time to look this up for me. Yes my G. Grandmother Joana was a Barboza as far as I have known , but know saying that I have seen my grandparents marriage certificate and it had my G. Grandmother's name on it and it read: Joana Mendes. Which I wonder at the time if it was a mistake......... maybe not then. I am thinking that they are cousins if I had to guess. But thank you. You have been most helpful. Thanks again Sophie Sophie, If you do a search on the Madeira Archives you possibly find these two individuals. They may be as follows: Manuel Fernandes Pombo married Joana Mendes da Encarnação (did she change her name to Barbosa?) in 1904. This is the only Manuel Fernandes Pombo married to a Joana in Ponta do Pargo and for that matter in the whole island. António Fernandes Pombo married Maria Clara de Jesus in 1910. Same age? Are they twins? Cousins? If these seem to be the people you are searching, you should request a copy of the marriage document. It will contain the parents. Good luck. José Fernandes ________________________________ From: Sophie Souza <kindnessmatters4all@gmail.com> To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:32:40 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo Hello I am trying to figure out a family relation between Manuel Fernandes Pombo and Antonio F. Pombo both from Ponto do Pargo they were together on the ship Olympic 1912. they were both 29. If this is the Manuel Pombo that I am related to he would born about 1881 his wife was Joanna (Barboza) Pombo. Thanks you. Sophie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sophie and Jose, Jose, you merntion in your posting "I have to go to the archives," are you currently in Madeira? Sophie Is Manuel Fernandes Pombo your paternal or maternal ancestor/relative? What other Pombos do you know of in your line? Is your Souza surname your maiden or married surname? Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 4:35:24 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Fw: Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo It may have been a mistake but it confirms the info. Please  note the answer that I gave to Avelino. You should connect. The offer is also extended to you to get you started. I have to go to the archives anyway. Please not that in current Portuguese is spelled Barbosa.    José Fernandes ________________________________ From: sophie <ssouza173@gsinet.net> To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 1:15:24 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Fw: Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo Hello Jose,     Thank you for taking the time to look this up for me.  Yes my G. Grandmother Joana was a Barboza as far as I have known , but know saying that I have seen my grandparents marriage certificate and it had my G. Grandmother's name on it and it read: Joana Mendes. Which I wonder at the time if it was a mistake......... maybe not then.  I am thinking that they are cousins if I had to guess. But thank you. You have been most helpful. Thanks again Sophie Sophie, If you do a search on the Madeira Archives you possibly find these two individuals. They may be as follows: Manuel Fernandes Pombo married Joana Mendes da Encarnação (did she change her name to Barbosa?) in 1904. This is the only Manuel Fernandes Pombo married to a Joana in Ponta do Pargo and for that matter in the whole island. António Fernandes Pombo married Maria Clara de Jesus in 1910. Same age? Are they twins? Cousins? If these seem to be the people you are searching, you should request a copy of the marriage document. It will contain the parents. Good luck. José Fernandes ________________________________ From: Sophie Souza <kindnessmatters4all@gmail.com> To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:32:40 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Manuel and Antonio Pombo from Ponto do Pargo Hello I am trying to figure out a family relation between Manuel Fernandes Pombo and Antonio F. Pombo both from Ponto do Pargo they were together on the ship Olympic 1912. they were both 29.  If this is the Manuel Pombo that I am related to he would born about 1881 his wife was Joanna (Barboza) Pombo. Thanks you. Sophie