I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com

Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message