On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this. Philip http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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