Thank you Pat and Theresa for the suggestions on how to view images on the Nesos site. I will try that. Pat , my Drummonds are as follows as far as I can find, some not proven: These are my great grandparents in #1. 1.Maria Amelia Gaspar B) 9-1-1863 Porto Santo Portugal D) 10-29-1946 Honolulu, Hawaii M) Manuel Antoino Fernandez B) Portugal D) Honolulu before 1910 and after 1900 2. Manuel Gaspar Drummond B 4-21-1841 Porto Santo, Portugal D)1-13-1933 Hawaii M) Maria Pestana de Vasconcellos b) 1844 D) 7-29-1935 worked as seamstress and Governess for Waterhouse and Wilcox families Their children marred into the Teves, Gomes, Jardine and Fernandez families in Hawaii 3. Gaspar - do-O- Drummond married to Joanna de Vasconcelos (her parents were Joao Alexandre De Vasconcelos and Teresa de Vasconcelos 4.Joao Luis Drummond m) Lucrecia Escordio (her parents Manuel Jose D. Oliveira and D. Antonia Drummond Joao parents were Manuel Escordio Ferreira da Silva Then after this I'm not so sure so won't write it here. I'm not sure of the parentage of Gaspar-do-o Drummond either. It's rather confusing. I also am having trouble