With Mary's permission, I'm sharing this e-mail with the "group, " that she had sent to me. Pat ============ Mary wrote: My paternal grandparents emigrated to US in 1920. They brought with them three sons. I am the youngest daughter of the youngest son.I never knew my grandparents as my grandfather died at a very young age and my grandmother returned to Portugal and died there. I have birth and marriage records on both of my grandparents: Alvaro Tertuliano da Silva b1886 Funchal, d1924 in Fall River MA (first born) Ema Emerlinda da Costa Ferreira b1883 Funchal Madeira , d1948 Lisboa (last child of three) married 1907 Coimbra, Portugal Parents of Alvaro: Pedro Gomes da Silva b 1833, Funchal (have copy of birth record) d 1909? Funchal Maria Barbora (sometimes spelled Barbara) b? freguesia de Santa Luzia married date? Parents of Ema: Francisco Joaquim da Costa Ferreira b? Porto, Portugal Theodolinda Augusta de Freitas b 1835 Machico (saw birth record in church in Machico) married date ? Parents of Pedro Gomes da Silva: Manoel Jose da Silva b 1833 Funchal single, freguesia de Nossa Senhora da Luz Joaquina Rosa ______b ? single, freguesia de Nossa Senhora de Monte living in Sa Pedro- she came forward in 1859 to acknowledge being the mother of Pedro. I have some interesting documentation for this. Parents of Maria Barbora: Damiao Ribiero e Maria Vieira That is as far back as I have gone there. While on my honeymoon in Madeira in 2002, I went to the church of Santa Luzia but it was locked. I went to the church in Machico where the nun showed me the book and page where the baptism of Ema's mother Theodolinda was recorded in 1835. I did not have a digital camera nor was a copy machine available. So I wrote down the information. Theodolinda's family was from Machico and the surrounding areas. I do not have a lot of supporting documentation but I believe that I can track the marriages through the registry and the marriage "book" back to early 1700s and late 1600s. From Machico the family names are da Freitas (Freytas) da Costa da Matta Furtado de Mendonca Alvarez Perreira (Perreyra) de Lima Vieira da Silva I have some records for some of the marriages but no birth records. I am getting a new computer soon and hope to be able to spend more time digging. Thank you for your time and assistance. Mary da Silva Frost Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> wrote: Mary, The baptisms are not online. We are all thankful that the marriages are...as you can see they are very helpful, and give you the information you need to find the record on the microfilm. As Luis said, that is the way most of us do our research. It is much more productive than writing away for copies. And you can learn so much from a single roll. And no, you cannot order the marriage copies online at ARM. Although they do give the pricing on the ARM site...it is mainly so you know how much to send in when requesting a copy or lookup. If you have any other questions about ordering films from LDS please just ask! By the way...what parish are you searching under and what surnames...just curious as always!!! Cece -----Original Message----- From: Luis Beal [mailto:luisbeal@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:39 PM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRT-MADEIRA] ordering copies?? Where did you get the pricing information? The way most of us check out the records is through microfilms that we order from our local Family History Center. You can check out which microfilms they have on this site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp do a place search, input "madeira" part of "portugal", then select "portugal, madeira, ilha" then go to church records, and select the parish you need. Then on top there will be a box that says "view film notes" click on it and it will show you the years and records available. Printout that page and take it to your local FHCenter. They will order it for you for $3.25, and the best thing is that in one microfilm you may find more than just one record of your family. You can find your local center on this page: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp. I just ordered one microfilm to look up one ancestor and once I had her parents names I was able to find eight more ancestors and climb three generations because the microfilm covered a wide span of years. Have fun. Luis Beal MaryH1017@aol.com wrote: Hello all. I want to thank everyone who has been posting lately. It gave me the incentive to try to find time to dive in again. I have been away from the research for ages after running up against some brick walls. I have gone to the ARM site and found an index for a marriage possibly in my tree. Now that I have found it, is there a way to order online? My Portuguese is not strong. I think I understand the pricing for research- free first 30 min, 15 euros first hour, 30 euros 2 hours and for church records-11.70 euros? IN the past I wrote directly to the archives and waited for a response. Now that these things are online I thought maybe I could order online. Also- is there an index for baptism records, and if so, how do I access it? BTW- I followed the posted advice from Cece and Luis about how to work with the search on the ARM marriage base and I think I blasted through a block up in my family tree. I need to order a marriage record to be sure. Also- anyone know if there is a way to get information regarding Ilha Graciosa in Acores? Seems a gg grandfather came from Ilha Graciosa- Nossa Senhora da Luz. Thanks again to all. Mary da Silva Frost ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. 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