In that case, I don't believe you'll have much success on these ones. There are many, many Afonso families on Madeira (it was a very common patronimic). They include my fathers lineage (Gomes Perneta/Gomes Jardim) that is ending now on an António Afonso, parhaps family of another António Afonso (Falcão) that I've found Wednesday to be my ancestor by way of the Pinto Correias. He's niece of another António Afonso, who named him as universal heir on early 18th century. The Afonsos were especially common on Stº António and S. Martinho, both of them Funchal's rural suburban parishes. One well known Afonso family has kept that surname until our days, and still live on Stº António. They own one of the oldest cars around, a beautiful Austin from 1924, with which they use to ride on the old automobile races we often organize here. If I am correct these ones descend from yet another António Afonso, which was a singer(!!!) on the 18th century. I am curious why you used "Alfonso" and not "Afonso", as I've seen it wrote that way on the records of marriages of Spanish soldiers when they were occupying the Island (late 16th, early 17th cent.) Is it writen "ALFONSO" on the records you saw? This is important, as it can mean he was Spanish (true dead end), though it would be more probable that it was a typo. I believe we never used "Alfonso" here in Portugal, not even on ancient times. Paulo On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:25:43 -0600, Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> wrote: > Actually the one name of my ancestor...that also shows up in Sao > Martinho is > Jacinto Alfonso (or Afonso if you prefer) > And there are only 2 in the marriage database with this name...one being > my > "dead end" ancestor in Santo Antonio de Serra!!!. > Cece > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paulo Gomes Jardim [mailto:darwin@spamcop.net] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:16 PM > To: cece@soccer4all.com; PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PRT-MADEIRA] Sao Martinho - 1902 marriage film? > > > These Martins de Nobregas are the direct line of his maternal grand > mother. > I've not told him yet what I found on worldconnect - probably on your > database - which will help him greatly as he's starting the genealogy of > his mother side now, but I predict that he'll be delighed to know. :) > > These Nobregas were like rabbits, and in particular on Caniço there are > hoards of them. > If you are interested on that family there's a genealogy on NESOS. > > So, if it was not Nobrega that you were looking for on 1902, S. Martinho, > could it be...Sarsfield? :) > > Paulo > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:07:44 -0600, Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> > wrote: > >> Well, I have quite a lot of Nobregas in Santo Antonio de Serra (the >> majority >> of them are Martins de Nobregas)...none are direct ancestors. >> This was one of our first areas to research and we got a little carried >> away >> (kinda like I am in Porto da Cruz now!!!) >> Tell your cousin to give me a hollar if he/she is interested! >> Cece >> (my only ancestor Nobrega is an Apolonia Nobrega de Sousa from Canico in >> 1673) > > > -- > " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- > Horacio > > -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio