Paulo Gomes Jardim wrote: > I forgot to mention another thing. > You may recall a Sebastião Gomes Jardim, married to Francisca Gomes > Jardim (this one from Ponta do Pargo) on Karen's ancestry. > He was son of Manuel Gomes da Silva and Maria Gomes. > Using the laws of logic, Maria Gomes shall be the Gomes Jardim. > > Your ancestor Alferes Manuel Gomes Jardim was the god father or > witness of the marriage between Sebastião and Francisca. > As Manuel Gomes da Silva and Maria Gomes marriage is nowhere to be > found, I've tempatively placed, for now, Maria Gomes (Jardim), > Sebastião's mother, as sister of Manuel Gomes Jardim, the Alferes, > and daughter of Esperança and Manuel. > > Paulo > > > >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:12:57 -0800 (PST), M B <mb_mhamid@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Paulo and Karen: I don't see any immediate links to the Gomes >>> Jardim names you mention. I do have a few in my family--maybe you >>> will recognize them if you have more extensive information on the >>> family. Below are 3 generations of Gomes Jardim. The first couple >>> started out in Sao Roque in the late 1600s, and by the early 1700s, >>> their children are in Santo Antonio. I am also interested in the >>> wife of my earliest Gomes Jardim: Inácia Gomes Romam. Has anyone >>> heard of this name (Romam?) in Sao Roque? I found there marriage >>> date (1680) on the ARM website but haven't seen the actual record >>> to get the names of both spouses' parents. Below are my meager >>> records on this family: >>> >>> >>> >>> Descendants of Manuel Gomes Jardim >>> >>> >>> >>> Generation No. 1 >>> >>> >>> 1. MANUEL GOMES1 JARDIM was born Unknown in São Roque, Madeira >>> Island, Portugal, and died Bef. February 11, 1721/22. He married >>> INÁCIA GOMES ROMAM 1680 in São Roque, Madeira Island, Portugal. >>> She was born Unknown in São Roque, Madeira Island, Portugal, and >>> died Bef. February 11, 1721/22. >>> >>> >>> Children of MANUEL JARDIM and INÁCIA ROMAM are: >>> >>> 2. i. MARIA GOMES2 JARDIM, b. Unknown, Sao Roque, >>> Madeira Island, Portugal; d. Unknown. >>> >>> 3. ii. AGOSTINHO GOMES, b. Unknown; d. Unknown. >>> >>> >>> >>> Generation No. 2 >>> >>> >>> 2. MARIA GOMES2 JARDIM (MANUEL GOMES1) was born Unknown in Sao >>> Roque, Madeira Island, Portugal, and died Unknown. She married (1) >>> GASPAR RODRIGUES DE GOVEIA, son of MANUEL DE GOVEIA and MARIA >>> REIS. He was born Unknown in Santo Antonio, Madeira Island, >>> Portugal, and died Bef. February 11, 1721/22. She married (2) >>> MANUEL MARTINS PEREIRA February 11, 1721/22 in Santo Antonio, >>> Funchal, Madeira Island, Portugal, son of ANTONIO PEREIRA and MARIA >>> FERNANDES. He was born 1668 in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira >>> Island, Portugal, and died Unknown. >>> >>> >>> Children of MARIA JARDIM and GASPAR DE GOVEIA are: >>> >>> 4. i. IGNACIA GOMES3 JARDIM, b. July 22, 1714, >>> Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira Island, Portugal; d. Bef. February >>> 09, 1782. >>> >>> ii. HELENA JARDIM, b. October 22, 1716, Santo >>> Antonio, Funchal, Madeira Island, Portugal; d. Unknown. >>> >>> >>> 3. AGOSTINHO2 GOMES (MANUEL GOMES1 JARDIM) was born Unknown, and >>> died Unknown. He married THOMASIA GOMES. She was born Unknown, >>> and died Unknown. >>> >>> >>> Child of AGOSTINHO GOMES and THOMASIA GOMES is: >>> >>> i. MANUEL GOMES3 JARDIM, b. Unknown; d. >>> Unknown; m. MARIA JOSEFA, February 07, 1745/46, Santo Antonio, >>> Funchal, Madeira Island, Portugal; b. Unknown; d. Unknown. >>> >>> >>> >>> Generation No. 3 >>> >>> >>> 4. IGNACIA GOMES3 JARDIM (MARIA GOMES2, MANUEL GOMES1) was born >>> July 22, 1714 in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira Island, Portugal, >>> and died Bef. February 09, 1782. She married MATTEUS PEREIRA DA >>> SILVA June 22, 1733 in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira Island, >>> Portugal, son of MANUEL PEREIRA and PAULA DA SILVA. He was born >>> 1701 in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira Island, Portugal, and died >>> Bef. February 09, 1782. >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Make Yahoo! your home page >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> > > > Paulo, I've just been reading through all the Gomes Jardim info in your emails today and have a question---I have the parents of Sebastiao Gomes Jardim as Manuel Gomes Jardim and Catherine Luiz, not Maria Gomes. I don't know their dates of birth, but she died before 1718. I have two children for them: Sebastiao Gomes Jardim and Francisca Gomes Jardim. (Francisca married Manuel Martins on Aug. 16, 1722). Sebastiao married Maria Gomes Jardim February 20, 1717/18 in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira. She was the daughter of Manual Gomes da Silva/Romao (I've seen the name written both ways) and Maria Gomes Jardim. She was born abt. 1693. Info I have on Manual Gomes1 da Silva/Romao(?): was born abt. 1660 perhaps in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira. He married Maria Gomes Jardim abt. 1692 in ?Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira. Children of Manual da Silva/Romao(?) and Maria Jardim are: Francisca Gomes Jardim, born abt. 1693. (married Sebstiao Gomes Jardim) Antonia Gonzales Jardim, born abt. 1698. She married Sebastian Fernandes October 11, 1723 in Santo Antonio, Funchal, Madeira. Joao Gomes Jardim, born abt. 1707. (married Mariana das Neves) Anna Gomes Jardim, born abt. 1711. (married Joupe Gomes Brassum(?)) Over the next week or so I'll try to write up the information I have on the various female Gomes Jardim lines for you. Karen