Hi, Paulo. At the end of your email, you asked how I know Paula is the daughter of Manuel da Silva de Mendonca and Ignacia das Neves. I must have made that exact connection through the marriage record of Mateus Pereira da Silva (June 22, 1733, Santo Antonio), in which the following individuals were names: Antonio Martins Pereira / / Manuel Martins Pereira \ / \ / Maria Fernandes / / Mateus Pereira da Silva \ \ \ Manuel da Silva de Mendonca \ / \ / Paula da Silva \ \ Ignacia das Neves I have noted in my records that, from Mateus's marriage record, the paternal grandparents were Antonio Martins Pereira and Maria Fernandes, and that the maternal grandfather was Manuel da Silva de Mendonca. For some reason, I don't have Ignacia das Neves's name marked the same way (as the maternal grandmother), but I think this is because I forgot to source this one fact (her name) in my database along with the other grandparents. However, I do have noted in my records that she appeared as "Paula Gomes" in her son Mateus's baptism record (Sept. 25, 1701, Santo Antonio) and as "Paula Gomes Neves" in her daughter Mariana's baptism record (March 26, 1703). Just from Mariana's birth record, one might assume that she was the daughter of a "Neves." Unfortunately, I did not make photocopies of these records, so I can't look back at them now, and it will be many months before I have access to microfilms again to verify. Had you not found that Paul da Silva was the daughter of Manuel da Silva de Mendonca? It seemed that way from your post. Please let me know if you have found some conflicting information. Regarding the children of Manuel Martins Pereira and Paula da Silva, you mentioned Mateus (discussed above), as well as Maria Pereira (m. Pedro Pereira de Oliveira, 1722) and Josefa Pereira (m. Antonio Fernandes Rosa, 1726). According to my records, I have a total of 7 siblings (all locations below are Santo Antonio): 1. Mateus Pereira da Silva, b. 1701 m. Ignacia Gomes Jardim, June 22, 1733 2. Mariana, b. 1703 (I didn't find a marriage record for her. Could this be your Maria Pereira?) 3. Ignacio, b. March 7, 1706 (From my "notes" section: I don't know what his complete name is, as I only found him in the baptism records, but it could be Ignacio Martins Pereira (based on the complete names of his brothers Antonio Martins Pereira and Manuel Martins Pereira in their marriage records, or it could be Ignacio Pereira da Silva, following the pattern of his older brother Matteus Pereira da Silva and his sisters, as their names appears in their marriage records.) 4. Gregoria Pereira da Silva m. Ignacio de Govea, Sept. 20, 1711 (and 2nd time: Francisco Rodrigues, May 20, 1714) 5. Josefa Pereira da Silva m. Antonio Fernandes Rosa, Feb. 11, 1726 6. Antonio Martins Pereira m. Mariana Rosa de Aguiar, Nov. 5, 1721 7. Manuel Martins Pereira m. Ignacia Maria Jardim (didn't see the marriage records; got the names from their children's baptism records) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Thanks for the info, MB. I didn't knew who were the parents of Paula da Silva, as I only had checked teh marriages of Maria and Josefa Pereira, and that info is not provided there. If Paula is also named as Paula Gomes, that makes even more probable that she was sister of Manuel Gomes da Silva/Romão. I don't know if "Neves" in this case is a surname or a given name. Sometimes given names appear also *after* the surname, which makes things difficult when inserting them on the database. Someone can be "Inácio Ferreira da Trindade", and here Ferreira is the surname and Trindade a given name. The same for Paula Gomes (das?) Neves. Nevertheless, there was at least one Stº António family that used Neves as a surname, the Fernandes Neves, who may be familiar to Denise d' Antona. It is possible that Inácia was from this family. You mention below a Mariana Rosa de Aguiar. I believe she was the one that had a second marriage with Pedro Pereira de Oliveira on 1730, being one of my direct lines, but this I'll have to confirm from that marriage record. Don't worry about the christening records, I'll eventually check them on the future, after I'm done with the marriages. About Inácio's full name, as a rule I never assign full names, nor even a surname, to individuals I only know about from christening records. They may have died at a very young age, and in that case they would not have a "full name" at all. Even if they lived longer, they may have chose a totally different surname from what we would have expected, and in that case assiging an imaginary surname would only add to the confusion of aliases. Paulo On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:48:12 -0800 (PST), M B <mb_mhamid@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi, Paulo. At the end of your email, you asked how I know Paula is the > daughter of Manuel da Silva de Mendonca and Ignacia das Neves. I must > have made that exact connection through the marriage record of Mateus > Pereira da Silva (June 22, 1733, Santo Antonio), in which the following > individuals were names: > Antonio Martins Pereira > / > / > Manuel Martins > Pereira \ > / \ > / Maria Fernandes > / > / > Mateus Pereira > da Silva \ > \ > \ Manuel da Silva de Mendonca > \ / > \ / > Paula da Silva > \ > \ > Ignacia das Neves > I have noted in my records that, from Mateus's marriage record, the > paternal grandparents were Antonio Martins Pereira and Maria Fernandes, > and that the maternal grandfather was Manuel da Silva de Mendonca. For > some reason, I don't have Ignacia das Neves's name marked the same way > (as the maternal grandmother), but I think this is because I forgot to > source this one fact (her name) in my database along with the other > grandparents. > However, I do have noted in my records that she appeared as "Paula > Gomes" in her son Mateus's baptism record (Sept. 25, 1701, Santo > Antonio) and as "Paula Gomes Neves" in her daughter Mariana's baptism > record (March 26, 1703). Just from Mariana's birth record, one might > assume that she was the daughter of a "Neves." > Unfortunately, I did not make photocopies of these records, so I can't > look back at them now, and it will be many months before I have access > to microfilms again to verify. Had you not found that Paul da Silva was > the daughter of Manuel da Silva de Mendonca? It seemed that way from > your post. Please let me know if you have found some conflicting > information. > Regarding the children of Manuel Martins Pereira and Paula da Silva, you > mentioned Mateus (discussed above), as well as Maria Pereira (m. Pedro > Pereira de Oliveira, 1722) and Josefa Pereira (m. Antonio Fernandes > Rosa, 1726). According to my records, I have a total of 7 siblings (all > locations below are Santo Antonio): > 1. Mateus Pereira da Silva, b. 1701 > m. Ignacia Gomes Jardim, June 22, 1733 > 2. Mariana, b. 1703 > (I didn't find a marriage record for her. Could this be your Maria > Pereira?) > 3. Ignacio, b. March 7, 1706 > (From my "notes" section: I don't know what his complete name is, > as I only found him in the baptism records, but it could be Ignacio > Martins Pereira (based on the complete names of his brothers Antonio > Martins Pereira and Manuel Martins Pereira in their marriage records, or > it could be Ignacio Pereira da Silva, following the pattern of his older > brother Matteus Pereira da Silva and his sisters, as their names appears > in their marriage records.) > 4. Gregoria Pereira da Silva > m. Ignacio de Govea, Sept. 20, 1711 (and 2nd time: Francisco > Rodrigues, May 20, 1714) > 5. Josefa Pereira da Silva > m. Antonio Fernandes Rosa, Feb. 11, 1726 > 6. Antonio Martins Pereira > m. Mariana Rosa de Aguiar, Nov. 5, 1721 > 7. Manuel Martins Pereira > m. Ignacia Maria Jardim (didn't see the marriage records; got the > names from their children's baptism records) > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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