Cece, Constança Rodrigues, as far as I know, was only documented that way, with no family name. I don't know where this "Sá/Sciarra-Collona" parentage legend originally came from, but at 1590, much before Henrique Henriques de Noronha has wroten his nobiliary, she was named "Constança Rodrigues de ALMEIDA" by Gaspar Frutuoso, who wrote a book about the Portuguese Atlantic history while staying on Ponta Delgada, Azores. Gaspar Frutuoso says she was from noble ancestry, but doesn't tell any more details about that. The Sá/Sciarra-Collona couple, so it seems, where the parents of João Rodrigues de Sá "das Galés" which is the ancestor of the Azorean Sás. If Constança Rodrigues was indeed his sister, or in anyway related to him, I have serious doubts that Gaspar Frutuoso would fail to mention it, with all the direct knowledge he had about the Azorean lineages. I believe you can safely discard this Sá ancestry from Zargo's wife. Paulo On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:39:53 -0600, Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> wrote: > FYI-More date problems here. > Zarcos wife Constanca Rodrigues de Sa- says she was born in 1394 - but it > says her father died and 1385. > also says her mother was born in > 1340-which would make her 54 when she was born.. -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio

Paulo, My husband is not going to be happy to hear this...I think! Being half Italian, he was really enjoying all of the history of the Sciarra-Collona and the possible link to them. Oh well, such is this thing called research that we do! I wanted to let you know that I am wearing out the Porto da Cruz marriages film. It appears I am related to most everyone there from 1577 (the beginning of the records) forward. My database is growing by leaps and bounds in the last couple weeks. In the end, I think I will end up a Porto da Cruz specialist..LOL. I will be doing the early baptisms after I finish the marriages that I can connect...which will probably be them ALL in the end it seems. To give you an example...out of the first 30 marriages ever in Porto da Cruz, at least 8 of them (so far) are DIRECT ancestors and 12 or so others are also connected family! As I am working the film forward from 1577...I am constantly going back and adding people whom I couldn't connect in the beginning...so those last 10 will be connected one way or the other before I know it I'm sure! If anyone on the list has traced any relations to the early days in Porto da Cruz...please lets share some info! Cece -----Original Message----- From: Paulo Gomes Jardim [mailto:darwin@spamcop.net] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:16 AM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRT-MADEIRA] Constança Rodrigues...de Sá?! (was: Ancestry of D. Catarina de Menezes..) Cece, Constança Rodrigues, as far as I know, was only documented that way, with no family name. I don't know where this "Sá/Sciarra-Collona" parentage legend originally came from, but at 1590, much before Henrique Henriques de Noronha has wroten his nobiliary, she was named "Constança Rodrigues de ALMEIDA" by Gaspar Frutuoso, who wrote a book about the Portuguese Atlantic history while staying on Ponta Delgada, Azores. Gaspar Frutuoso says she was from noble ancestry, but doesn't tell any more details about that. The Sá/Sciarra-Collona couple, so it seems, where the parents of João Rodrigues de Sá "das Galés" which is the ancestor of the Azorean Sás. If Constança Rodrigues was indeed his sister, or in anyway related to him, I have serious doubts that Gaspar Frutuoso would fail to mention it, with all the direct knowledge he had about the Azorean lineages. I believe you can safely discard this Sá ancestry from Zargo's wife. Paulo On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:39:53 -0600, Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> wrote: > FYI-More date problems here. > Zarcos wife Constanca Rodrigues de Sa- says she was born in 1394 - but it > says her father died and 1385. > also says her mother was born in > 1340-which would make her 54 when she was born.. -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx