Hi Margaret, My fathers aunt, Clarisse Goncalves de Freitas, married a Luis de Nobrega from Camacha. Sound familiar? Denise In a message dated 1/25/2006 2:48:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, marpg2000@comcast.net writes: Interesting the number of Freitas and Goveia families in Maderia. My mother in law was related to them and to trace them in Camacha or Sito do Salgados is very confussing due to the repetition of the names. She is from the deNobrega family in Camacha. Margaret