Dear.. (?) Blue Goose I'm a little bit confused. ANICETA DE JESUS/ ANICETA SIMOES (/Ernestina Amalia de Jesus) was your GREATgrandmother, right? SHE was not married to the father(s) of her two boys, MANUEL FARIA and JOAO FARIA. Ok. Now I think I got it. So you have different possibilities for her name. That's easy. The only one you should believe is the name in the PORTUGUESE documents, for instance, your grandfather's (Manuel Faria) BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Your uncle's birth certificate says your GREAT-GRANDMOTHER is ANICETA DE JESUS. (Btw. It seems there are some words missing. It should say: "E neto paterno de Aniceta de Jesus"). Well... her full name could be "Aniceta de Jesus Simoes". "de Jesus" usually is a devocional name, and it can be used as a second "first name". "Simoes" being, thus, her family name. (like in "Mary-of-Jesus Smith"). The Birth Certificate basically says: your uncle MANUEL FARIA JR was born in Jan.21, 1914 SON OF Manuel Faria, married, born in (the "frequesia" of) Ribeira Brava, and Maria da Conceicao, married, born in (the "frequesia" of) Ribeira Brava, both living in a place called "Lombo de Sao Joao" HIS GRANDPARENTS are: (from his father's side): Aniceta de Jesus and from his mother's side Manuel Inacio e Abreu and Maria Augusta. Good luck Luis K W Lisboa-Portugal ---------- > From: BlueGoose6@aol.com > Date: Terça-feira, 19 de Setembro de 2006 20:01 > > My grandfather was Manuel Faria and his brother was Joao Faria. His mother > was Aniceta de Jesus. My grandmother was not married to the father of the > two boys. He was the landlord in more ways than one. > > I also have another name for his mother. One was on his wedding certificate > and one was on his immigration record but according to my mother who was > born in Madeira her grandmother was Aniceta de Jesus. The other name is > Ernestina Amalia de Jesus. > > Here is my uncle's birth certificate. If someone can translate this I would > appreciate it. > > Conservatoria do Registo Civil D e Ponta Do Sol > Certidao de Narrativa Completa De Registo De Nascimento > Certifice que no livro de assentos de nascimento arquivado nesta > Conservatoria, referente ao ano de 1914, , , , existe um > Registo n. 71 do qual consta que: > No dia vinte e um de Janeiro de mil novecentos e catorze, na frequesia > d e Ribeira Brava, do concelho de Ponta do Sol > Nasceu um individuo do sexo masculine, a quem fol posto o nome complete > de MANUEL FARIA JUNIOR , filho Manuel Faria, no estado de casado > Natural de frequesia da Ribeira Brava, > E de Maria da Conceicao, no estado de casada, natural de frequesia da > Ribeira Brava, e residente s. no sitio do Lombo de Sao Joao > E de Aniceta de Jesus > E materno de Manuel Inacio e Abreu > E de Maria Augusta > A margem do registo constam os averbamentos seguintes: ( Nada consta)