There is something you are doing that's not quite right. I use FTM 2005 version and have printed many all in one trees. I just this minute created a pdf file with everyone in my database and it worked fine. I don't have a plotter, so in order to print the tree I take the pdf file to kinkos and they print it exactly as I want it. Bit expensive mind you. As far as the comments about FTM selling the data - I agree it's not right but there is nothing I can do about it. Maybe we should put together a petition to get them to stop that practice. Just a thought. Philip ----- Original Message ---- From: Janette Chun <janettechun@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:13:24 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software This is timely as I too was thinking of switching programs. I've been using Family Tree Maker for the last couple of years and last year upgraded to the 2006 version. While it's fine as a database, I concur with the comments below and I find the printing of charts a very frustrating exercise. You can't print charts unless you use the accompanying chart maker software which again has limitations - for example you can't print an all in one chart...you can only produce individual charts for ancestors and descendents. Janette -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scot Austin Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:57 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software Personally, I have all kinds of reasons not to use FTM: 1. It adds unwanted data to your information, estimating dates and so forth. 2. They have taken all kinds of liberties with the GEDCOM standards making it incompatible with other programs. 3. Worst of all, they encourage users to submit their data which they then copyright, put on CD's and sell it back without checking for accuracy, credibility or duplication, a most detestable practice in my opinion. I have used PAF for some 15 years, back to when it was still a DOS based program and find it more than adequate. Best of all it is free. Scot Philip Rodrigues wrote: > I can second this opinion about Family Tree Maker. I have used it for about 8 years and compared to others I have used it is far and away the best I've seen. > Philip > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "gregory.lima@comcast.net" <gregory.lima@comcast.net> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > I currently user Family Tree Maker 2005 version and find it works very well. It seems to account for just about any possible situation. Just last night while entering information about my mother's (Irish/English) family I came across a somewhat unusual situation: an ancestor married the daughter of his father's second wife. The wife was not this ancestor's mother, but her daughter was his step sister. Anyway, Family Tree Maker very easily handled collating the information. > > Previously I used Ultimate Family Tree, which I found to be somewhat cumersome, but more importantly it sometimes (too often for my liking) mixed up information...moved information from one individual to another. > > Hope this helps > > Greg Lima > Washington State > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Jeff Lake <j@jlake.net> > > >> Hey list - >> Can I ask what everyone is using for software to keep their records? I >> had some problems last year and now might be a good time to switch to >> something else. >> Thanks >> JL >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Philip. I'll try Kinkos. I think that will be the best option. I actually checked the website for Charting Companion and they have in their FAQ section that they do not offer the ability to print all in one trees, that it is only available on the Family Tree software as a pdf, and they suggested contacting Family Tree. Janette -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rodrigues Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:23 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software There is something you are doing that's not quite right. I use FTM 2005 version and have printed many all in one trees. I just this minute created a pdf file with everyone in my database and it worked fine. I don't have a plotter, so in order to print the tree I take the pdf file to kinkos and they print it exactly as I want it. Bit expensive mind you. As far as the comments about FTM selling the data - I agree it's not right but there is nothing I can do about it. Maybe we should put together a petition to get them to stop that practice. Just a thought. Philip ----- Original Message ---- From: Janette Chun <janettechun@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:13:24 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software This is timely as I too was thinking of switching programs. I've been using Family Tree Maker for the last couple of years and last year upgraded to the 2006 version. While it's fine as a database, I concur with the comments below and I find the printing of charts a very frustrating exercise. You can't print charts unless you use the accompanying chart maker software which again has limitations - for example you can't print an all in one chart...you can only produce individual charts for ancestors and descendents. Janette -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scot Austin Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:57 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software Personally, I have all kinds of reasons not to use FTM: 1. It adds unwanted data to your information, estimating dates and so forth. 2. They have taken all kinds of liberties with the GEDCOM standards making it incompatible with other programs. 3. Worst of all, they encourage users to submit their data which they then copyright, put on CD's and sell it back without checking for accuracy, credibility or duplication, a most detestable practice in my opinion. I have used PAF for some 15 years, back to when it was still a DOS based program and find it more than adequate. Best of all it is free. Scot Philip Rodrigues wrote: > I can second this opinion about Family Tree Maker. I have used it for about 8 years and compared to others I have used it is far and away the best I've seen. > Philip > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "gregory.lima@comcast.net" <gregory.lima@comcast.net> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > I currently user Family Tree Maker 2005 version and find it works very well. It seems to account for just about any possible situation. Just last night while entering information about my mother's (Irish/English) family I came across a somewhat unusual situation: an ancestor married the daughter of his father's second wife. The wife was not this ancestor's mother, but her daughter was his step sister. Anyway, Family Tree Maker very easily handled collating the information. > > Previously I used Ultimate Family Tree, which I found to be somewhat cumersome, but more importantly it sometimes (too often for my liking) mixed up information...moved information from one individual to another. > > Hope this helps > > Greg Lima > Washington State > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Jeff Lake <j@jlake.net> > > >> Hey list - >> Can I ask what everyone is using for software to keep their records? I >> had some problems last year and now might be a good time to switch to >> something else. >> Thanks >> JL >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If you don't submit the data to them, they cannot sell it. Thanks, Cheryl Hamm hammc@localnet.com 215-826-0833 -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rodrigues Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:23 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software There is something you are doing that's not quite right. I use FTM 2005 version and have printed many all in one trees. I just this minute created a pdf file with everyone in my database and it worked fine. I don't have a plotter, so in order to print the tree I take the pdf file to kinkos and they print it exactly as I want it. Bit expensive mind you. As far as the comments about FTM selling the data - I agree it's not right but there is nothing I can do about it. Maybe we should put together a petition to get them to stop that practice. Just a thought. Philip ----- Original Message ---- From: Janette Chun <janettechun@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:13:24 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software This is timely as I too was thinking of switching programs. I've been using Family Tree Maker for the last couple of years and last year upgraded to the 2006 version. While it's fine as a database, I concur with the comments below and I find the printing of charts a very frustrating exercise. You can't print charts unless you use the accompanying chart maker software which again has limitations - for example you can't print an all in one chart...you can only produce individual charts for ancestors and descendents. Janette -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scot Austin Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:57 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software Personally, I have all kinds of reasons not to use FTM: 1. It adds unwanted data to your information, estimating dates and so forth. 2. They have taken all kinds of liberties with the GEDCOM standards making it incompatible with other programs. 3. Worst of all, they encourage users to submit their data which they then copyright, put on CD's and sell it back without checking for accuracy, credibility or duplication, a most detestable practice in my opinion. I have used PAF for some 15 years, back to when it was still a DOS based program and find it more than adequate. Best of all it is free. Scot Philip Rodrigues wrote: > I can second this opinion about Family Tree Maker. I have used it for about 8 years and compared to others I have used it is far and away the best I've seen. > Philip > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "gregory.lima@comcast.net" <gregory.lima@comcast.net> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > I currently user Family Tree Maker 2005 version and find it works very well. It seems to account for just about any possible situation. Just last night while entering information about my mother's (Irish/English) family I came across a somewhat unusual situation: an ancestor married the daughter of his father's second wife. The wife was not this ancestor's mother, but her daughter was his step sister. Anyway, Family Tree Maker very easily handled collating the information. > > Previously I used Ultimate Family Tree, which I found to be somewhat cumersome, but more importantly it sometimes (too often for my liking) mixed up information...moved information from one individual to another. > > Hope this helps > > Greg Lima > Washington State > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Jeff Lake <j@jlake.net> > > >> Hey list - >> Can I ask what everyone is using for software to keep their records? I >> had some problems last year and now might be a good time to switch to >> something else. >> Thanks >> JL >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message