Hi Philip, If you can live with your tree being printed in black and white at Kinkos, its alot less expensive. Some LDS FHCs also have the ability to do print outs of large trees; I know the one in Monterey, CA does. Its very affordable too. Best regards, Katherine >From: "Cheryl Hamm" <hammc@localnet.com> >Reply-To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software >Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:46:27 -0500 > >If you don't submit the data to them, they cannot sell it. > >Thanks, > >Cheryl Hamm >hammc@localnet.com >215-826-0833 > >-----Original Message----- >From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rodrigues >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:23 PM >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > >There is something you are doing that's not quite right. I use FTM 2005 >version and have printed many all in one trees. >I just this minute created a pdf file with everyone in my database and it >worked fine. I don't have a plotter, so in order to print the tree I take >the pdf file to kinkos and they print it exactly as I want it. Bit >expensive >mind you. >As far as the comments about FTM selling the data - I agree it's not right >but there is nothing I can do about it. >Maybe we should put together a petition to get them to stop that practice. >Just a thought. >Philip > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Janette Chun <janettechun@shaw.ca> >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:13:24 PM >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > >This is timely as I too was thinking of switching programs. I've been >using >Family Tree Maker for the last couple of years and last year upgraded to >the >2006 version. While it's fine as a database, I concur with the comments >below and I find the printing of charts a very frustrating exercise. You >can't print charts unless you use the accompanying chart maker software >which again has limitations - for example you can't print an all in one >chart...you can only produce individual charts for ancestors and >descendents. > >Janette > >-----Original Message----- >From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scot Austin >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:57 AM >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > >Personally, I have all kinds of reasons not to use FTM: >1. It adds unwanted data to your information, estimating dates and so >forth. >2. They have taken all kinds of liberties with the GEDCOM standards >making it incompatible with other programs. >3. Worst of all, they encourage users to submit their data which they >then copyright, put on CD's and sell it back without checking for >accuracy, credibility or duplication, a most detestable practice in my >opinion. I have used PAF for some 15 years, back to when it was still a >DOS based program and find it more than adequate. Best of all it is free. > >Scot > >Philip Rodrigues wrote: > > I can second this opinion about Family Tree Maker. I have used it for >about 8 years and compared to others I have used it is far and away the >best >I've seen. > > Philip > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "gregory.lima@comcast.net" <gregory.lima@comcast.net> > > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:12:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > > > > I currently user Family Tree Maker 2005 version and find it works very >well. It seems to account for just about any possible situation. Just >last >night while entering information about my mother's (Irish/English) family I >came across a somewhat unusual situation: an ancestor married the daughter >of his father's second wife. The wife was not this ancestor's mother, but >her daughter was his step sister. Anyway, Family Tree Maker very easily >handled collating the information. > > > > Previously I used Ultimate Family Tree, which I found to be somewhat >cumersome, but more importantly it sometimes (too often for my liking) >mixed >up information...moved information from one individual to another. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Greg Lima > > Washington State > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Jeff Lake <j@jlake.net> > > > > > >> Hey list - > >> Can I ask what everyone is using for software to keep their records? I > >> had some problems last year and now might be a good time to switch to > >> something else. > >> Thanks > >> JL > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the >quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I went to the website to see if I could find an approximate price for printing these large trees. They do not have any prices listed. Can you give an a ballpark figure of the costs? Theresa > ------------Original Message------------ > From: "Katherine Hope Borges" <kvjjmmborges@msn.com> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, Feb-8-2007 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > Hi Philip, > > If you can live with your tree being printed in black and white at > Kinkos, > its alot less expensive. Some LDS FHCs also have the ability to do > print > outs of large trees; I know the one in Monterey, CA does. Its very > affordable too. > > Best regards, > Katherine > > > >From: "Cheryl Hamm" <hammc@localnet.com> > >Reply-To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > >To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > >Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:46:27 -0500 > > > >If you don't submit the data to them, they cannot sell it. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Cheryl Hamm > >hammc@localnet.com > >215-826-0833 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > >[mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip > Rodrigues > >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:23 PM > >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > >There is something you are doing that's not quite right. I use FTM > 2005 > >version and have printed many all in one trees. > >I just this minute created a pdf file with everyone in my database and > it > >worked fine. I don't have a plotter, so in order to print the tree I > take > >the pdf file to kinkos and they print it exactly as I want it. Bit > >expensive > >mind you. > >As far as the comments about FTM selling the data - I agree it's not > right > >but there is nothing I can do about it. > >Maybe we should put together a petition to get them to stop that > practice. > >Just a thought. > >Philip > > > > > >----- Original Message ---- > >From: Janette Chun <janettechun@shaw.ca> > >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:13:24 PM > >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > > > >This is timely as I too was thinking of switching programs. I've been > > >using > >Family Tree Maker for the last couple of years and last year upgraded > to > >the > >2006 version. While it's fine as a database, I concur with the > comments > >below and I find the printing of charts a very frustrating exercise. > You > >can't print charts unless you use the accompanying chart maker > software > >which again has limitations - for example you can't print an all in > one > >chart...you can only produce individual charts for ancestors and > >descendents. > > > >Janette > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > >[mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scot Austin > >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:57 AM > >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > >Personally, I have all kinds of reasons not to use FTM: > >1. It adds unwanted data to your information, estimating dates and so > >forth. > >2. They have taken all kinds of liberties with the GEDCOM standards > >making it incompatible with other programs. > >3. Worst of all, they encourage users to submit their data which they > >then copyright, put on CD's and sell it back without checking for > >accuracy, credibility or duplication, a most detestable practice in my > >opinion. I have used PAF for some 15 years, back to when it was still > a > >DOS based program and find it more than adequate. Best of all it is > free. > > > >Scot > > > >Philip Rodrigues wrote: > > > I can second this opinion about Family Tree Maker. I have used it > for > >about 8 years and compared to others I have used it is far and away > the > >best > >I've seen. > > > Philip > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: "gregory.lima@comcast.net" <gregory.lima@comcast.net> > > > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:12:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Software > > > > > > > > > I currently user Family Tree Maker 2005 version and find it works > very > >well. It seems to account for just about any possible situation. > Just > >last > >night while entering information about my mother's (Irish/English) > family I > >came across a somewhat unusual situation: an ancestor married the > daughter > >of his father's second wife. The wife was not this ancestor's mother, > but > >her daughter was his step sister. Anyway, Family Tree Maker very > easily > >handled collating the information. > > > > > > Previously I used Ultimate Family Tree, which I found to be > somewhat > >cumersome, but more importantly it sometimes (too often for my liking) > > >mixed > >up information...moved information from one individual to another. > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Greg Lima > > > Washington State > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > From: Jeff Lake <j@jlake.net> > > > > > > > > >> Hey list - > > >> Can I ask what everyone is using for software to keep their > records? I > > >> had some problems last year and now might be a good time to switch > to > > >> something else. > > >> Thanks > > >> JL > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >the > >quotes > > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > >