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    1. Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject - S. Vicente
    2. Luis Beal
    3. I have an Alvaro Gomes who married Maria Dias back in 1694 in S. Antao. Both were born in Sao Vicente and so were their parents, Francisco de Gois and Maria Francisca (Alvaros' parents), and Domingos Gomes and Anto'nia Dias (Maria's parents). That seems to be it for me from Sao Vicente. Luis Beal "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." Cicero, Roman orator Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:02:21 AM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject Hey folks...how about a change of subject?????? Anyone here that belongs from families that comes from Sao Vicente?? If so....which surnames??? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

    02/15/2007 10:32:16
    1. Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject - S. Vicente
    2. Patricia Corbera
    3. I have an Alvaro Gomes who married Maria Goncalves both from Sao Vicente, this couple is my 9th Great Grandparents. Their daughter, Margarida Gomes Garcez(Garces) b. abt 1590 Sao Vicente, married Sebastiao Dias de Lira b. bef 1590, they married 08 Jun 1610 Book 578 Pg 33v, Sao Vicente, Madeira. Sebastiao was also known as Sebastiao Rodriguese de Lira. More on Sebastiao and his family can be found on page 183 "Familias da Ilhas da Madeira e Porto Santo" Titulo: Liras. Their son Capitao Bartolomeu Velosa de Lira married Agueda Cesar Abreu Andrade on 30 May 1662, in the Calheta. This is a double line for me... another son of Sebastiao Dias de Lira and Margarida Gomes Garcez(Garces), named Vicente de Lira Veloso b. abt 1610 Sao Vicente, married on 04 Feb 1652 in the Estreito da Calheta to Maria Ferreira she was born on 04 Oct 1626 Estreito da Calheta... Vicente is my paternal great grandfather and his brother Bartolomeu noted above is my maternal great grandfather. That's what I have for Sao Vicente... Pat Silva Corbera . Luis Beal <luisbeal@yahoo.com> wrote: I have an Alvaro Gomes who married Maria Dias back in 1694 in S. Antao. Both were born in Sao Vicente and so were their parents, Francisco de Gois and Maria Francisca (Alvaros' parents), and Domingos Gomes and Anto'nia Dias (Maria's parents). That seems to be it for me from Sao Vicente. Luis Beal "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." Cicero, Roman orator Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:02:21 AM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject Hey folks...how about a change of subject?????? Anyone here that belongs from families that comes from Sao Vicente?? If so....which surnames??? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/15/2007 02:45:45
    1. Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject - S. Vicente
    2. Hi Pat...i have some Gomes-Garcez in my family...so mabe you can help me to expand my family tree :) 1) Amaro Gomes garces married in 1678 in S Vicente with Antonia Caldeira (antonia is related to me) 2) Domingos Gomes Garces - son of Manuel Pacheco and Ana Rodrigues. Domingos married in 22 jun 1653 with Antonia Dias. He is my 9th great-grandfather 3) Joao Gomes Garcez - married in (???) with Maria Costa. They are the parents of Maria Pestana (this maria Pestana had a son that married in 1715, so probably this Joao Garcez was married mid 1600's or so!) 4) Alferes Manuel Gomes Garcez - Married Constanca Viveiros. Thir daugther Antonia Viveiros Married in 1720 one of my relatives, Joao Teixeira Brasao. All these names comes from Sao Vicente Thank you Leandro -----Original Message----- From: papagaia2@sbcglobal.net To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject - S. Vicente I have an Alvaro Gomes who married Maria Goncalves both from Sao Vicente, this couple is my 9th Great Grandparents. Their daughter, Margarida Gomes Garcez(Garces) b. abt 1590 Sao Vicente, married Sebastiao Dias de Lira b. bef 1590, they married 08 Jun 1610 Book 578 Pg 33v, Sao Vicente, Madeira. Sebastiao was also known as Sebastiao Rodriguese de Lira. More on Sebastiao and his family can be found on page 183 "Familias da Ilhas da Madeira e Porto Santo" Titulo: Liras. Their son Capitao Bartolomeu Velosa de Lira married Agueda Cesar Abreu Andrade on 30 May 1662, in the Calheta. This is a double line for me... another son of Sebastiao Dias de Lira and Margarida Gomes Garcez(Garces), named Vicente de Lira Veloso b. abt 1610 Sao Vicente, married on 04 Feb 1652 in the Estreito da Calheta to Maria Ferreira she was born on 04 Oct 1626 Estreito da Calheta... Vicente is my paternal great grandfather and his brother Bartolomeu noted above is my maternal great grandfather. That's what I have for Sao Vicente... Pat Silva Corbera . Luis Beal <luisbeal@yahoo.com> wrote: I have an Alvaro Gomes who married Maria Dias back in 1694 in S. Antao. Both were born in Sao Vicente and so were their parents, Francisco de Gois and Maria Francisca (Alvaros' parents), and Domingos Gomes and Anto'nia Dias (Maria's parents). That seems to be it for me from Sao Vicente. Luis Beal "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." Cicero, Roman orator Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:02:21 AM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject Hey folks...how about a change of subject?????? Anyone here that belongs from families that comes from Sao Vicente?? If so....which surnames??? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

    02/15/2007 06:51:21
    1. Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject - S. Vicente
    2. Hi Luis.....so we are not only related thru Pedro Bras Teixeira, but also thru Alvaro Gomes and Maria Dias. They are my 8th great-grandfather. Actually according to my PFA files, we are related many many times.... thru Inacio Caldeira and Maria Dias we are 5th cousins 3 times removed, , thru Goncalo Costa and Maria Ponte, we are 7th cousins 2 times removed, thru Jose Gomes Duarte and Isabel castro de Faria we are 7th cousins 2 times removed, thru Tome Goncalves and Joana Goncalves we are 8th cousins 4 times removed, thru pedro Bras Teixeira and Antonia Caldeira we are 8th cousins 4 times removed!!!!!! We definitely shall meet someday, because we are very much related thats for sure :) Take care for now dear cousin! Leandro -----Original Message----- From: luisbeal@yahoo.com To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject - S. Vicente I have an Alvaro Gomes who married Maria Dias back in 1694 in S. Antao. Both were born in Sao Vicente and so were their parents, Francisco de Gois and Maria Francisca (Alvaros' parents), and Domingos Gomes and Anto'nia Dias (Maria's parents). That seems to be it for me from Sao Vicente. Luis Beal "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." Cicero, Roman orator Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:02:21 AM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Change of subject Hey folks...how about a change of subject?????? Anyone here that belongs from families that comes from Sao Vicente?? If so....which surnames??? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

    02/15/2007 06:44:03