Hello Jose' Escorcio is how one say Scotch in Portuguese. We knew a lady from the area of Machico who was Escorcio and married into the Tello ( Telles) family. They all being originaly from Porto Santo. She and her husband migrated to Hawaii in 1906 and then to the U.S. later. Also according to the tome Armorial Lusitano, Drummond was originally of the Escocia faminly and one of the greatest and distinct of that Reino. They married twice : the first with Catarina Vaz de Lordelo, and the second with Branca Afonso. Interesting is that after 1519 and later in the year of 1604 and 1634 some of their descendants from Jao Escorcio established correspondents with members of the Drummond familly of Stobhall, exchanging letters and some were written in Latin. They are publish in a book "THE GENEALOGY OF THE MOST NOBLE AND ANCIENT FAMILY OF DRUMMOND given a "stamp of approval" in Edinburgo in 1831. The Arquivo Historico da Madeira published a volume III. In those letters the parents Portuguese, the noble strangers, confrim that the a son of Lord Drummond, who was a brother of Rainha Arabela da Escocia, went to France searching for honor and fame. The family lost contact with him. Here in the U.S. the Escorcio lady that I mentioned above had descendants who married into the Drummond family. They still reside somewhere here in California. Very interesting line of people. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernandes, Jose" <jose.fernandes@yrdsb.edu.on.ca> To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] FW: Drumond family Interesting. From history, we can tell that his grandparents were born and lived during the Spanish regime. If they were captains which crown did they follow? Did that have anything to do with the name change after 1640? It would be nice to see how the current Drumonds in Madeira trace their ancestors. Drumond is not a Portuguese name. It "feels" Flemish or French to me or around there. It is interesting to note that during that time the Spanish controlled the Low Countries. Anybody out there have an opinion on this? José -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: January 30, 2007 1:18 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] FW: Drumond family Hi Jose.... Have no idea. His paternal grandfather was Capitain Antonio Figueiro and his maternal grandfather was Capitain Sebastiao Moniz da Camara...his grandmothers were Correia and Gouveia (being this Gouveia from Machico!). and even the ARM cannot trace my ancestors back from Capitain Antonio Figueiro...so baiscally i havent a clue how this Drumond belongs to my family!!! :( Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message