What upsets you so? Are you ashamed to admit racial diversity among your ancestors? If you are not interested in the past why are you here? We have found E3a Haplogroup among a number of people of English origin. The theory is that it was brought to England by African slaves brought by the Romans to build Hadrian's wall almost 2,000 years ago. 700 years of Moorish presence in Iberia to say nothing of Slaves brought to the islands certainly accounts for the presence of E3a among the Portuguese. It is important to remember that both y DNA and mtDNA represent only one ancestor in each generation so either one from 350 years ago represents only 1/10th of 1% of your ancestry or less.So, it is entirely possible for lily white people to have African Ancestry. E3A is associated with the Bantu tribe and was spread throughout Africa by them as the Bantus were among the first agriculturalists. E3a also carries a mutation that provides resistance to malaria which certainly is a desirable trait. Many of the colonists in both Madeira and the Azores came from Flanders, Brittany, England, Scotland etc which serves to explain the fair haired genes as well as many of the surnames. I do take genetic genealogy very seriously as it tells us a great deal about human origins and migrations. We have only begun to scratch the surface. Check out the National Geographic project website, the Sorenson molecular genealogy project, Family Tree DNA etc to see how much has been learned already. Scot Austin Margaret wrote: > Hello Pat: > Read the Haplogroup E message and was sorry to see that people are so > concerned with that subject. How can it be that there > are more fair skinned and haired people in the Azores than in any other > Portuguese settlement? Why is it so important to spend ones time searching > the past when there is so much more we must do to improve the future. When > will the chromosmes of the apes etc., that were here first be found in the > mainland? Madeira is closer to Africa and yet he didnot mention that island. > Lets leave Madeira out of it. Too many blonds there. > > I hope that you donot take all of that study seriously as it cannot produce > any real conclusion. > > Love and best wishes from your dear friend > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Corbera" <papagaia2@sbcglobal.net> > To: <prt-madeira@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:44 AM > Subject: Fwd: [portugal-gen] Haplogrupo E nos Açores > > > > > Ricardo Costa de Oliveira <rco2000@uol.com.br> wrote: To: > <Azores@googlegroups.com>, <portugal-gen@yahoogroups.com> > From: "Ricardo Costa de Oliveira" <rco2000@uol.com.br> > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:38 -0300 > Subject: [portugal-gen] Haplogrupo E nos Açores > > Am J Hum Biol. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print] > > The African contribution to the present-day population of the Azores > Islands > (Portugal): Analysis of the Y chromosome haplogroup E. > > Neto D, Montiel R, Bettencourt C, Santos C, Prata MJ, Lima M. > > Department of Biology, Center of Research in Natural Resources (CIRN), > University of the Azores, Portugal. > > Among the settlers that, from 1432 onwards, arrived to the Azores Islands > were individuals of North and sub-Saharan African origin. A previous study > of markers of the Y chromosome revealed that haplogroup E is the second more > frequent in the Azores (13%). Since this haplogroup is heterogeneous and may > contain subtypes of African or non-African origin, we analyzed an extended > sample of > 319 Azoreans, originating from the three groups of islands (Eastern, > Central, and Western), to evaluate the African contribution to the > present-day population of the Azores. Samples belonging to the E clade were > distributed into six haplogroups, from which the most frequent was E3b1a, > representing 47.2% of the E chromosomes (6.3% of the total sample). The > sub-Saharan haplogroup E3a was found in 7.1% of E chromosomes (0.9% of the > total), corresponding to the highest frequency reported so far in a > Portuguese population. No significant differences were detected in the > haplogroup distribution among groups of islands, as well as between Azores > and most of other European populations compared. 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