Margaret, You are entitled to your opinion. I simply elected to shared the article with prt-madeira, as it was shared with me. Many of our list members have ancestors from both the Azores and Madeira Islands, some of these individuals are also interested in DNA testing. We all make choices, for whatever reason only known to oneself. I personally feel I would be doing my ancestry a dis-honor if I didn't at least attempt to learn more about my heritage. Not sure I understand why you mentioned Madeira, but I would be amissed if I didn't remind you that many settlers from Madeira actually helped settle the Azores. Our ancestors are basically the same, some fair skinned, others dark. Researching the past is as important to improving the future... one could say, to learn about the past, is to improve the future, not to repeat the mistakes, but to improve upon them. Pat Margaret <marpg2000@comcast.net> wrote: Hello Pat: Read the Haplogroup E message and was sorry to see that people are so concerned with that subject. How can it be that there are more fair skinned and haired people in the Azores than in any other Portuguese settlement? Why is it so important to spend ones time searching the past when there is so much more we must do to improve the future. When will the chromosmes of the apes etc., that were here first be found in the mainland? Madeira is closer to Africa and yet he didnot mention that island. Lets leave Madeira out of it. Too many blonds there. I hope that you donot take all of that study seriously as it cannot produce any real conclusion. Love and best wishes from your dear friend Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Corbera" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:44 AM Subject: Fwd: [portugal-gen] Haplogrupo E nos Açores Ricardo Costa de Oliveira wrote: To: , From: "Ricardo Costa de Oliveira" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:38 -0300 Subject: [portugal-gen] Haplogrupo E nos Açores Am J Hum Biol. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print] The African contribution to the present-day population of the Azores Islands (Portugal): Analysis of the Y chromosome haplogroup E. Neto D, Montiel R, Bettencourt C, Santos C, Prata MJ, Lima M. Department of Biology, Center of Research in Natural Resources (CIRN), University of the Azores, Portugal. Among the settlers that, from 1432 onwards, arrived to the Azores Islands were individuals of North and sub-Saharan African origin. A previous study of markers of the Y chromosome revealed that haplogroup E is the second more frequent in the Azores (13%). Since this haplogroup is heterogeneous and may contain subtypes of African or non-African origin, we analyzed an extended sample of 319 Azoreans, originating from the three groups of islands (Eastern, Central, and Western), to evaluate the African contribution to the present-day population of the Azores. Samples belonging to the E clade were distributed into six haplogroups, from which the most frequent was E3b1a, representing 47.2% of the E chromosomes (6.3% of the total sample). The sub-Saharan haplogroup E3a was found in 7.1% of E chromosomes (0.9% of the total), corresponding to the highest frequency reported so far in a Portuguese population. No significant differences were detected in the haplogroup distribution among groups of islands, as well as between Azores and most of other European populations compared. The present-day representation of sub-Saharan lineages in Azores, although reduced, is higher than in other Portuguese populations, where the demographic representation of sub-Saharan slaves is reported as similar. Am. J. Hum. Biol., 2007. (c) 2007 Wiley-Liss, Inc. PMID: 17712788 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 4 New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. Real Food Group Share recipes and favorite meals w/ Real Food lovers. Cat Groups on Yahoo! Groups Share pictures & stories about cats. . __,_._,___ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret, Do you understand what the posting was about? Its an abstract of a scientific paper that was just recently published on Y-chromosome haplogroup E in the Azores. A "haplogroup" is the scientific term for your deep ancestral origins (there is more to it than that, but I'm trying to keep this simple here). DNA testing provides an enormous amount of potential to learn more about your ancestral origins, especially those from the islands of Madeira and the Azores. This scientific study has nothing to do with apes or anything close. It also doesn't have anything to do with what Madeirans or anyone else looks like. Its just about where Azorean haplogroup E3b's originated, which was Portugal. DNA is our future that gives us a fantastic window into the past. Best regards, Katherine Hope Borges Co-admin - Madeira, Azores, Cape Verde and Portugal DNA Projects > Hello Pat: >Read the Haplogroup E message and was sorry to see that people are so >concerned with that subject. How can it be that there >are more fair skinned and haired people in the Azores than in any other >Portuguese settlement? Why is it so important to spend ones time searching >the past when there is so much more we must do to improve the future. When >will the chromosmes of the apes etc., that were here first be found in the >mainland? Madeira is closer to Africa and yet he didnot mention that >island. >Lets leave Madeira out of it. Too many blonds there. > >I hope that you donot take all of that study seriously as it cannot produce >any real conclusion. > >Love and best wishes from your dear friend >Margaret >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patricia Corbera" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:44 AM >Subject: Fwd: [portugal-gen] Haplogrupo E nos Açores > > > > >Ricardo Costa de Oliveira wrote: To: >, > >From: "Ricardo Costa de Oliveira" >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:38 -0300 >Subject: [portugal-gen] Haplogrupo E nos Açores > >Am J Hum Biol. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print] > >The African contribution to the present-day population of the Azores >Islands >(Portugal): Analysis of the Y chromosome haplogroup E. > >Neto D, Montiel R, Bettencourt C, Santos C, Prata MJ, Lima M. > >Department of Biology, Center of Research in Natural Resources (CIRN), >University of the Azores, Portugal. > >Among the settlers that, from 1432 onwards, arrived to the Azores Islands >were individuals of North and sub-Saharan African origin. A previous study >of markers of the Y chromosome revealed that haplogroup E is the second >more >frequent in the Azores (13%). Since this haplogroup is heterogeneous and >may >contain subtypes of African or non-African origin, we analyzed an extended >sample of >319 Azoreans, originating from the three groups of islands (Eastern, >Central, and Western), to evaluate the African contribution to the >present-day population of the Azores. Samples belonging to the E clade were >distributed into six haplogroups, from which the most frequent was E3b1a, >representing 47.2% of the E chromosomes (6.3% of the total sample). The >sub-Saharan haplogroup E3a was found in 7.1% of E chromosomes (0.9% of the >total), corresponding to the highest frequency reported so far in a >Portuguese population. No significant differences were detected in the >haplogroup distribution among groups of islands, as well as between Azores >and most of other European populations compared. The present-day >representation of sub-Saharan lineages in Azores, although reduced, is >higher than in other Portuguese populations, where the demographic >representation of sub-Saharan slaves is reported as similar. Am. J. >Hum. Biol., 2007. >(c) 2007 Wiley-Liss, Inc. > >PMID: 17712788 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] > > > > > >__._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new >topic >Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > > >Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) >Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format >to Traditional >Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > >Recent Activity > >4 >New Members > >Visit Your Group >Yahoo! Groups >Moderator Central >An online resource >for moderators. > >Real Food Group >Share recipes >and favorite meals >w/ Real Food lovers. > >Cat Groups >on Yahoo! 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