Hi Cece..... ok...lets see what i have about these couple: 1) List of Children: Garcia Moniz (my ancestor) married with Catarina Teixeira Carmelite Friar Cristovao Moniz Ines Moniz married Joao Lourenco de Miranda 2) Any dates: vasco birth: abt 1455 in portugal and death in 1510 in vila de torreao in portugal (sources for that was genea) 3) his ancestors: yes...can go back way way way back.... (again using the source of genea - from the internet) 4) weddings according to my knowledge as well he married 3 times. Beatriz vaz Ferreira, Ines Cabral, Joana Teixeira hope that helps in some way Leandro

Leandro and Cece, I have added my input within the text of Leandro's posting below... because the text color doesn't appear, I have added the notation ("Pat's Input") to indicate what I have in file. Pat Gregobhte1@aol.com wrote: Hi Cece..... ok...lets see what i have about these couple: 1) List of Children: Garcia Moniz (my ancestor) married with Catarina Teixeira (Pat's Input) Parents of Garcia Moniz were Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Vaz Ferreira. Garcia married Catarina Teixeira daughter of Lancarote Teixeira (o velho) and Brites de Goes. Carmelite Friar Cristovao Moniz (Pat's Input) .I have a Cristovao Moniz son of Vasco Martins Moniz (o Moco) and Aldonca Cabral. Cristovao married ? a Isabel Eca's daughter of Pedro de Eca and Leonor de Camoes. Ines Moniz married Joao Lourenco de Miranda (Pat's Input) .I have Ines/Ignez Moniz daughter of Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Vaz Ferreira. Brites' parents Vasco Fernandes and Eva Gomes Ferreira Ines/Ignez married Joao Lourenco de Miranda. 2) Any dates: vasco birth: abt 1455 in portugal and death in 1510 in vila de torreao in portugal (sources for that was genea) .(Pat's Input) I have this information for Vasco Martins Moniz son of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes... Per Chico - moniz-pdf chart- " Vasco Martins Moniz passou a Madeira c. 1450, e fez seu assento em Machico, he died in Portugal in 1510, in the home of his mother." No mention of his date of birth.... 3) his ancestors: yes...can go back way way way back.... (again using the source of genea - from the internet) 4) weddings according to my knowledge as well he married 3 times. Beatriz vaz Ferreira, Ines Cabral, Joana Teixeira (Pat's Input) (1) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Martim Fagundes and Branca Lourenco, I only have one marriage for this Vasco and that was to Brites Pereira. Source: M. F. Doria (aka Chico) Moderator of Brazilan List Group Per Chico - " Vasco Martins Moniz, filho de Martim Fagundes e de Branca Lourenco, primeiros ancestrais desta familia. Vasco Martins foi armado cavaleiro em Tavira em 1415, antes da tomada de Ceuta, e + antes de 1439. Foi vedor da fazenda da casa do infante D. Henrique. C.c. Beatriz Pereira, filha de Paio Pereira, "homem honrado do Algarve." (2) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Pereira, I have only one marriage for this Vasco, and that was to Aldonca Cabral daughter of Fernao Alvares Cabral and Tereza de Andrade... (3) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes, I have the following spouses/associates for him...(1) Brites Vaz Ferreira daughter of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes (2)Joana Teixeira daughter of Lancarote Teixeira (o Velho) and Brites de Goes (3) "N" Cabral daughter of Diogo Cabral and Beatriz Goncalves Camara (4) "N" unknown parents...of this association they had a son Vasco Moniz Barretto married to Violante Teixeira daughter of Tristao Teixeira and Guiomar de Lordello. hope that helps in some way Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK-now Cece's input is attached also!! -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Patricia Corbera Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:03 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Vasco Martins Moniz & Beatriz Pereira Leandro and Cece, I have added my input within the text of Leandro's posting below... because the text color doesn't appear, I have added the notation ("Pat's Input") to indicate what I have in file. Pat Gregobhte1@aol.com wrote: Hi Cece..... ok...lets see what i have about these couple: 1) List of Children: Garcia Moniz (my ancestor) married with Catarina Teixeira (Pat's Input) Parents of Garcia Moniz were Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Vaz Ferreira. Garcia married Catarina Teixeira daughter of Lancarote Teixeira (o velho) and Brites de Goes. (Cece's input) -My ancestor also -Ditto Pat's info Carmelite Friar Cristovao Moniz (Pat's Input) .I have a Cristovao Moniz son of Vasco Martins Moniz (o Moco) and Aldonca Cabral. Cristovao married ? a Isabel Eca's daughter of Pedro de Eca and Leonor de Camoes. (Cece's input-Do not have either of these, but I do have a grandson of Garcia by a similar name-Cristavao Moniz Barreto-he is the son of Garcia's daughter Helena Moniz de Meneses and Pedro Barbosa-and he was the Juis dos Orphaos de Machico) Ines Moniz married Joao Lourenco de Miranda (Pat's Input) .I have Ines/Ignez Moniz daughter of Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Vaz Ferreira. Brites' parents Vasco Fernandes and Eva Gomes Ferreira. Ines/Ignez married Joao Lourenco de Miranda. (Cece's input) AHA...I have this same couple, Ines Moniz married to Joao Lourenco de Miranda - only I show Ines as the daughter of Vasco Martins Moniz and Beatriz Pereira (the grandfather of Vasco Martins Moniz-who married Beatriz Vas Ferreira) and sister of Henrique Moniz 2) Any dates: vasco birth: abt 1455 in portugal and death in 1510 in vila de torreao in portugal (sources for that was genea) (Pat's Input) I have this information for Vasco Martins Moniz son of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes... Per Chico - moniz-pdf chart- " Vasco Martins Moniz passou a Madeira c. 1450, e fez seu assento em Machico, he died in Portugal in 1510, in the home of his mother." No mention of his date of birth.... (Cece's input) For Vasco Martins Moniz, son of Henrique Moniz & Ines de Meneses Barreto- born c1470 per Paulo, "He died in Portugal in Vila de Torreao in his mothers house in 1510" also per Paulo. Here are my additional notes- Fidalgo Cavaleiro da Casa Real Registao: He is the 2nd son of Henrique Moniz. He was the first of his family to come to Madeira, Portugal. He first came to Machico where he had large house. He died in Portugal in Vila de Torreao in his mothers house in 1510. He gave 1/3 Morgado to his first son Garcia Moniz. He was married 3 times. of the title Monizes served in Africa Paulo says c1470 3) his ancestors: yes...can go back way way way back.... (again using the source of genea - from the internet) 4) weddings according to my knowledge as well he married 3 times. Beatriz vaz Ferreira, Ines Cabral, Joana Teixeira (Pat's Input) (1) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Martim Fagundes and Branca Lourenco, I only have one marriage for this Vasco and that was to Brites Pereira. Source: M. F. Doria (aka Chico) Moderator of Brazilan List Group Per Chico - " Vasco Martins Moniz, filho de Martim Fagundes e de Branca Lourenco, primeiros ancestrais desta familia. Vasco Martins foi armado cavaleiro em Tavira em 1415, antes da tomada de Ceuta, e + antes de 1439. Foi vedor da fazenda da casa do infante D. Henrique. C.c. Beatriz Pereira, filha de Paio Pereira, "homem honrado do Algarve." (2) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Pereira, I have only one marriage for this Vasco, and that was to Aldonca Cabral daughter of Fernao Alvares Cabral and Tereza de Andrade... (3) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes, I have the following spouses/associates for him...(1) Brites Vaz Ferreira daughter of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes (2)Joana Teixeira daughter of Lancarote Teixeira (o Velho) and Brites de Goes (3) "N" Cabral daughter of Diogo Cabral and Beatriz Goncalves Camara (4) "N" unknown parents...of this association they had a son Vasco Moniz Barretto married to Violante Teixeira daughter of Tristao Teixeira and Guiomar de Lordello. hope that helps in some way (Cece's input) - Leandro is referring to #3 above - and I have the same 3 wives for him - wife (1) Beatriz Vaz Ferreira- Pat-did you write this correctly-if so you are saying that he married his sister-I think it's just a typo. I show that Beatriz Vaz Ferreira is the daughter of Vasco Fernandes & Eva Gomes Ferreira. Although I do have the following note on her - Familias de Madeira, Portugal (Teixeiras) has her marrying Henrique Teixeira?- obviously something I meant to check out "someday" wife (2) Joana Teixeira-Lancarote Teixeira and Beatriz de Gois wife (3) Ines Cabral - daughter of Diogo Cabral and Beatriz Goncalves Camara I do not have an association (4) nor do I have the son Vasco Moniz Baretto (Pat do you have any source for this one?) Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cece and List Members, "Pat-did you write this correctly-if so you are saying that he married his sister-I think it's just a typo. I show that Beatriz Vaz Ferreira is the daughter of Vasco Fernandes & Eva Gomes Ferreira." Cece you are sooooo right, I goofed. Brites Beatriz Vaz Ferreira, is the daughter of Vasco Fernandes and Eva Gomes Ferreira... I duplicated the info from the line above... Who is embarrassd now ... ME! Thank You! (4) "N" unknown parents...of this association they had a son Vasco Moniz Barretto married to Violante Teixeira daughter of Tristao Teixeira and Guiomar de Lordello. You wrote the following (4) nor do I have the son Vasco Moniz Baretto (Pat do you have any source for this one?) Cece, this information from Noronha titulo Moniz (fol. 1) MONIZES. / ARMAS. / § 1.º / N.º 1 – Vasco Martins Moniz, filho 2.º de / Henrique Moniz, e de sua 2.ª mulher D. Ignez de Menezes, em título de Monizes em Portugal, It goes on to mention his marriages... scan down to Houve B. / 2 – Vasco Moniz Barretto, § 19.º // then scan down to (fol. 11) to § 19.º / N.º 2 – Vasco Moniz Barreto, filho B. de Vasco Martins Moniz, § 1.º, N.º 1.º , foi lettrado em leis. Casou com D. Violante Teixeira, Viuva de Joao Rodrigues da Camara, o Negrao, e filho de Triatão Teixeira, o 2.º Capitão de Machico, e de Guimar de Lordello, em titulo de Teixeiras,/ § .., N.º.., a qual morreu em 1549, e fez morgado de seus bens em o filho B. de seu 2.º Marido. This line continues with info on the children... I have removed the accent marks so that it transfers for easier reading. Pat Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> wrote: OK-now Cece's input is attached also!! -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Patricia Corbera Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:03 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Vasco Martins Moniz & Beatriz Pereira Leandro and Cece, I have added my input within the text of Leandro's posting below... because the text color doesn't appear, I have added the notation ("Pat's Input") to indicate what I have in file. Pat Gregobhte1@aol.com wrote: Hi Cece..... ok...lets see what i have about these couple: 1) List of Children: Garcia Moniz (my ancestor) married with Catarina Teixeira (Pat's Input) Parents of Garcia Moniz were Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Vaz Ferreira. Garcia married Catarina Teixeira daughter of Lancarote Teixeira (o velho) and Brites de Goes. (Cece's input) -My ancestor also -Ditto Pat's info Carmelite Friar Cristovao Moniz (Pat's Input) .I have a Cristovao Moniz son of Vasco Martins Moniz (o Moco) and Aldonca Cabral. Cristovao married ? a Isabel Eca's daughter of Pedro de Eca and Leonor de Camoes. (Cece's input-Do not have either of these, but I do have a grandson of Garcia by a similar name-Cristavao Moniz Barreto-he is the son of Garcia's daughter Helena Moniz de Meneses and Pedro Barbosa-and he was the Juis dos Orphaos de Machico) Ines Moniz married Joao Lourenco de Miranda (Pat's Input) .I have Ines/Ignez Moniz daughter of Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Vaz Ferreira. Brites' parents Vasco Fernandes and Eva Gomes Ferreira. Ines/Ignez married Joao Lourenco de Miranda. (Cece's input) AHA...I have this same couple, Ines Moniz married to Joao Lourenco de Miranda - only I show Ines as the daughter of Vasco Martins Moniz and Beatriz Pereira (the grandfather of Vasco Martins Moniz-who married Beatriz Vas Ferreira) and sister of Henrique Moniz 2) Any dates: vasco birth: abt 1455 in portugal and death in 1510 in vila de torreao in portugal (sources for that was genea) (Pat's Input) I have this information for Vasco Martins Moniz son of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes... Per Chico - moniz-pdf chart- " Vasco Martins Moniz passou a Madeira c. 1450, e fez seu assento em Machico, he died in Portugal in 1510, in the home of his mother." No mention of his date of birth.... (Cece's input) For Vasco Martins Moniz, son of Henrique Moniz & Ines de Meneses Barreto- born c1470 per Paulo, "He died in Portugal in Vila de Torreao in his mothers house in 1510" also per Paulo. Here are my additional notes- Fidalgo Cavaleiro da Casa Real Registao: He is the 2nd son of Henrique Moniz. He was the first of his family to come to Madeira, Portugal. He first came to Machico where he had large house. He died in Portugal in Vila de Torreao in his mothers house in 1510. He gave 1/3 Morgado to his first son Garcia Moniz. He was married 3 times. of the title Monizes served in Africa Paulo says c1470 3) his ancestors: yes...can go back way way way back.... (again using the source of genea - from the internet) 4) weddings according to my knowledge as well he married 3 times. Beatriz vaz Ferreira, Ines Cabral, Joana Teixeira (Pat's Input) (1) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Martim Fagundes and Branca Lourenco, I only have one marriage for this Vasco and that was to Brites Pereira. Source: M. F. Doria (aka Chico) Moderator of Brazilan List Group Per Chico - " Vasco Martins Moniz, filho de Martim Fagundes e de Branca Lourenco, primeiros ancestrais desta familia. Vasco Martins foi armado cavaleiro em Tavira em 1415, antes da tomada de Ceuta, e + antes de 1439. Foi vedor da fazenda da casa do infante D. Henrique. C.c. Beatriz Pereira, filha de Paio Pereira, "homem honrado do Algarve." (2) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Vasco Martins Moniz and Brites Pereira, I have only one marriage for this Vasco, and that was to Aldonca Cabral daughter of Fernao Alvares Cabral and Tereza de Andrade... (3) Vasco Martins Moniz son of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes, I have the following spouses/associates for him...(1) Brites Vaz Ferreira daughter of Henrique Moniz and Ines Barreto de Menezes (2)Joana Teixeira daughter of Lancarote Teixeira (o Velho) and Brites de Goes (3) "N" Cabral daughter of Diogo Cabral and Beatriz Goncalves Camara (4) "N" unknown parents...of this association they had a son Vasco Moniz Barretto married to Violante Teixeira daughter of Tristao Teixeira and Guiomar de Lordello. hope that helps in some way (Cece's input) - Leandro is referring to #3 above - and I have the same 3 wives for him - wife (1) Beatriz Vaz Ferreira- Pat-did you write this correctly-if so you are saying that he married his sister-I think it's just a typo. I show that Beatriz Vaz Ferreira is the daughter of Vasco Fernandes & Eva Gomes Ferreira. Although I do have the following note on her - Familias de Madeira, Portugal (Teixeiras) has her marrying Henrique Teixeira?- obviously something I meant to check out "someday" wife (2) Joana Teixeira-Lancarote Teixeira and Beatriz de Gois wife (3) Ines Cabral - daughter of Diogo Cabral and Beatriz Goncalves Camara I do not have an association (4) nor do I have the son Vasco Moniz Baretto (Pat do you have any source for this one?) Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message