Hi Cece..... Is CardosO and not Cardosa. Isabel de Gois (daughter of Lancarote Teixeira and Brites de Gois) married in 1491 with Fernao de Nunes Cardoso. Her name sometimes comes as Isabel (Peter Clode's book) or Helena (Familias da Gaula's book). Also she married?a second time with Mem Ornelas e Vasconcelos (son of Alvaro and Constanca). The son that i have from this second wedding is Ayres Ornelas e Vasconcelos that married Maria Teive. Antonio Teixeira Cardoso is my 13th great-grandfather. Hope that helps you in some way Leandro? -----Original Message----- From: Cece Camara <cece@soccer4all.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 6:03 am Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Isabel de Gois Paulo/Leandro, OK-been a while and I'm going back to old e-mails from the list to see what I may have missed and found this one...and want to make sure I understand. So Isabel de Gois and Fernao Nunes Cardoso - the parents of Antonio Teixeira Cardosa- also had a daughter named Helena ? (what was her last name) who married Mem de Ornelas e Vasconcelos, who is the son of Alvaro de Ornelas Saavadra and Dona Constanca de Mendonca Vasoncelos ???- Alvaro & Constanca are one of my directs. Thanks, Cece PS-BTW - is it Cardosa or Cardoso - the marriage database is almost exclusively Cardoso -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:01 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Isabel de Gois In a message dated 01/07/2007 18:23:36 GMT Daylight Time, darwin@spamcop.net writes: I have one question for Leandro- I show the mother of Antonio Teixeira > Cardosa as Isabel de Gois (not Ilena,nor do I have a daughter Ilena)-not > sure if I got it from HHN or Nobiliario da Ilha da Madeira, Portugal, It's probably Isabel. There seems to have been a daughter Helena indeed, who maried Mem de Ornelas e Vasconcelos. Hi Paulo.... You are absolutely right about the names. Is Isabel and she has a daughter Helena. YES!! the confusion is between sources coming from Peter Clode and the author of the book Familias da Gaula. Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com