Hi Pat.... I got that info thru nobiliario of Madeira and also a book about the bettencourt family. we are more than 100 times related being the closest as 9th cousins thru Pedro Delgado and Maria Rodrigues. I descend thur their daugther maria dos Prazeres and you thru their son Antonio Nunes. And yes.....we started all this because the borrageiro connection :) Leandro