[Part 1] On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:45:07 +0100, Scot Austin <scotaustin@comcast.net> wrote: > Paulo Gomes Jardim wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:25:17 +0100, Scot Austin <scotaustin@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> [..] >> >>> I have started a rudimentary database from historical sources of >>> Madeiran colonists prior to the keeping of patish records hoping to >>> someday bridge the gap to documented Madeirans. In it I show two >>> daughters of John Drummond and Branca Affonco with the name Annes they >>> are Caterina Annes and Izabel Annes Escorcio both born in Santa Cruz >>> about the 1440's. Izabel married Joao Leira. Perhaps Branca was related >>> to the Annes family. >>> >> >> Not at all. In this case, they are called Anes because her father was >> João, the famous João da Escócia, or John Drummond. >> > Thanks, I did not realize Anes was a patronymic as it bears little > resemblance to João. Perhaps John Drummond was called Ian in Scotland? It has little ressemblance to the modern form João, but if you think about the medieval, latinized YOHANNES, the similarity would become evident. The Spanish have the Ibañez, which has also precisely the same origin.