Hello Paulo: I have been enjoying this discourse though none of these people appear to be related to me. I am most interested in obtaining a copy of the revised Familias de Gaula. Could you please provide contact information for the "Junta de Freguesia de Gaula"? Thank you Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paulo Gomes Jardim Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 6:39 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Isabel de Gois On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:01:20 +0100, <Gregobhte1@aol.com> wrote: [..] > Hi Paulo.... > You are absolutely right about the names. Is Isabel and she has a > daughter > Helena. YES!! the confusion is between sources coming from Peter Clode > and the > author of the book Familias da Gaula. I also have the book "Familias de Gaula", the last 2005 corrected edition. I must say it is a monumental effort and a most invaluable book to have for anyone interested in Madeira Genealogies. It's available for sell in Junta de Freguesia de Gaula, people aboard interested to acquire it may probably write to them and ask for an exemplar. I must also say that from my experience this book is ridden with errors, either on dates of marriage, on ascendancy of married couples, and on many assumptions made there, such as congregating all the Afonsos, Gonçalves, Rodrigues, Jorges, etc. all in one family, when they are patronimics, and thus often unrelated between themselves. It's quite good for using as a guide, but you must always confirm the data against original records. The quality of the data improves as we reach modern times, and most living people from Gaula can easily find their way up from there. It's unfortunate, however, that a name index is not included, and the method of classification (surnames, as opposed to lineages) is not the ideal, in my opinion. The author, José Lourenço de Gouveia e Freitas, has the immense credit of dedicating the same effort to popular lineages as to more aristochratic ones, and took great care to include many expatriate families now living abroad in USA, Venezuela, South Africa, Jersey, etc.. I highly recommend as well "Gaula: a Terra e a Gente", which should act as a complement for the former one, or vice-versa. I find this book to be more accurate historically than the genealogical study. Paulo -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message