hey guys, especially Cece, Ed, Jeff, Lou, Zack, Jose, Pat and Zelia, I just updated my website: _http://teles.tribalpages.com_ (http://teles.tribalpages.com) and put your ancestors of each of you with a coloured box, so in that way would be easier to follow p how close we are related. let me know what you guys think thank u leandro In a message dated 12/5/2009 3:44:52 P.M. W. Europe Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lou, Sorry if I disturbed you. I'm in learn mode too, and will forever be. For us living in Portugal they are quite normal, I would say totally expected names from that time, place and circunstances. And most of them, if not all (Frutuoso may have disappeared) are still used today by many people. So Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from Ribeira Brava. He must be from the Homens known to have lived in that place. That's a start. I also have Homens from RB and they certainly are all from the same family. As we know there are four main sources for the name Homem . either Homem de Sousa, Homem de Gouveia, Homem d'El-Rei and simply Homem ( not so simple at all, because a simple Homem may have the name of one of the other three types). In any case the Homem (meaning Man, actually it's a toponymic taken from people living close to the river Homem) or Homens (plural) are a very ancient Portuguese family. Well, I hope I was of some help, Best regards, Miguel PS Who were Álvaro Rodirgues parents? And the witness of his marriage to Maria Lopes? Lopes being a patronymic,from Lopo, at one point Maria has a Lopo as ascendant. Feel free to ask any question you'd like to. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> wrote: > Miguel > Forgive me, the names seem strange to me, I am still in learn mode and > have not seen these names on the list that often if at all. > > Francisco Goncalves Homem is not listed has having a parish, he is > mentioned > in his daughter Ines martins marriage to Francisco Rodrigues Duarte on 16 > Sept 1614, Ribeira Brava (book #389,Fl 153) > > Domingos Anes and Branca Afonco are mentioned in their daughter Maria Lopes > marriage to Alvaro Rodrigues 21 Feb 1569, Ponta do Sol (book #454, fl 81) > > Regards, > Lou > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro > Henriques > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION > > Hello Lu, > > Strange ones, how come? They all seem quite normal ones - I mean typical > names from these times. > > Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from what parish? > and Domingos Nunes m, Branca Afonso? She could be a Drummond. Any Drummond > or Escórcio witness in her marriage certificate, or his son or daughter ? > > Regards, > > Miguel > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > All, > > I have the following that appear to be dead ends so I am sending them > out > > to the group to see if anyone has these names, any help or hints are > > appreciated. > > > > Gaspar Dias + Ana Rodrigues dates not recorded, dwelling: Lugar de Baixo > > > > Antao Serradas + Maria Rodrigues dates not recorded > > > > Goncalo Dias + Margarida Rodrigues Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Gregorio Sardinha + Isabel Fernandes dates not recorded > > > > Catarina Dias + Baltasar Fernandes Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Frutuoso Enes + Cecilia Frenandes ca. 1570 > > > > Apolonia Dias + Pedro Goncalos Ponta do Sol May 12 1573 > > > > Joao Pires + Maria Fernandes Ponta do Sol Nov 29 1580 > > > > Domingos Anes + Branca Afonco > > > > Francisco Goncalves Homem + Isabel Pereira ca. 1590 > > > > As you can see I have some strange ones so anything is welcomed. > > > > Lou > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK - now tell me how you did it?? :-) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] website hey guys, especially Cece, Ed, Jeff, Lou, Zack, Jose, Pat and Zelia, I just updated my website: _http://teles.tribalpages.com_ (http://teles.tribalpages.com) and put your ancestors of each of you with a coloured box, so in that way would be easier to follow p how close we are related. let me know what you guys think thank u leandro In a message dated 12/5/2009 3:44:52 P.M. W. Europe Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lou, Sorry if I disturbed you. I'm in learn mode too, and will forever be. For us living in Portugal they are quite normal, I would say totally expected names from that time, place and circunstances. And most of them, if not all (Frutuoso may have disappeared) are still used today by many people. So Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from Ribeira Brava. He must be from the Homens known to have lived in that place. That's a start. I also have Homens from RB and they certainly are all from the same family. As we know there are four main sources for the name Homem . either Homem de Sousa, Homem de Gouveia, Homem d'El-Rei and simply Homem ( not so simple at all, because a simple Homem may have the name of one of the other three types). In any case the Homem (meaning Man, actually it's a toponymic taken from people living close to the river Homem) or Homens (plural) are a very ancient Portuguese family. Well, I hope I was of some help, Best regards, Miguel PS Who were Álvaro Rodirgues parents? And the witness of his marriage to Maria Lopes? Lopes being a patronymic,from Lopo, at one point Maria has a Lopo as ascendant. Feel free to ask any question you'd like to. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> wrote: > Miguel > Forgive me, the names seem strange to me, I am still in learn mode > and have not seen these names on the list that often if at all. > > Francisco Goncalves Homem is not listed has having a parish, he is > mentioned in his daughter Ines martins marriage to Francisco Rodrigues > Duarte on 16 Sept 1614, Ribeira Brava (book #389,Fl 153) > > Domingos Anes and Branca Afonco are mentioned in their daughter Maria Lopes > marriage to Alvaro Rodrigues 21 Feb 1569, Ponta do Sol (book #454, fl > 81) > > Regards, > Lou > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de > Castro Henriques > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION > > Hello Lu, > > Strange ones, how come? They all seem quite normal ones - I mean > typical names from these times. > > Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from what parish? > and Domingos Nunes m, Branca Afonso? She could be a Drummond. Any Drummond > or Escórcio witness in her marriage certificate, or his son or > daughter ? > > Regards, > > Miguel > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > All, > > I have the following that appear to be dead ends so I am sending > > them > out > > to the group to see if anyone has these names, any help or hints > > are appreciated. > > > > Gaspar Dias + Ana Rodrigues dates not recorded, dwelling: Lugar de Baixo > > > > Antao Serradas + Maria Rodrigues dates not recorded > > > > Goncalo Dias + Margarida Rodrigues Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Gregorio Sardinha + Isabel Fernandes dates not recorded > > > > Catarina Dias + Baltasar Fernandes Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Frutuoso Enes + Cecilia Frenandes ca. 1570 > > > > Apolonia Dias + Pedro Goncalos Ponta do Sol May 12 1573 > > > > Joao Pires + Maria Fernandes Ponta do Sol Nov 29 1580 > > > > Domingos Anes + Branca Afonco > > > > Francisco Goncalves Homem + Isabel Pereira ca. 1590 > > > > As you can see I have some strange ones so anything is welcomed. > > > > Lou > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Leandro, Very interesting!!! I did the same, but with only my parents...sure makes it easier in following direct line ancestors and relatives. I'll check out my connection with yours, and get back to you later if I have any questions... Good Job! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 2:14:04 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] website hey guys, especially Cece, Ed, Jeff, Lou, Zack, Jose, Pat and Zelia, I just updated my website: _http://teles.tribalpages.com_ (http://teles.tribalpages.com) and put your ancestors of each of you with a coloured box, so in that way would be easier to follow p how close we are related. let me know what you guys think thank u leandro In a message dated 12/5/2009 3:44:52 P.M. W. Europe Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lou, Sorry if I disturbed you. I'm in learn mode too, and will forever be. For us living in Portugal they are quite normal, I would say totally expected names from that time, place and circunstances. And most of them, if not all (Frutuoso may have disappeared) are still used today by many people. So Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from Ribeira Brava. He must be from the Homens known to have lived in that place. That's a start. I also have Homens from RB and they certainly are all from the same family. As we know there are four main sources for the name Homem . either Homem de Sousa, Homem de Gouveia, Homem d'El-Rei and simply Homem ( not so simple at all, because a simple Homem may have the name of one of the other three types). In any case the Homem (meaning Man, actually it's a toponymic taken from people living close to the river Homem) or Homens (plural) are a very ancient Portuguese family. Well, I hope I was of some help, Best regards, Miguel PS Who were Álvaro Rodirgues parents? And the witness of his marriage to Maria Lopes? Lopes being a patronymic,from Lopo, at one point Maria has a Lopo as ascendant. Feel free to ask any question you'd like to. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> wrote: > Miguel > Forgive me, the names seem strange to me, I am still in learn mode and > have not seen these names on the list that often if at all. > > Francisco Goncalves Homem is not listed has having a parish, he is > mentioned > in his daughter Ines martins marriage to Francisco Rodrigues Duarte on 16 > Sept 1614, Ribeira Brava (book #389,Fl 153) > > Domingos Anes and Branca Afonco are mentioned in their daughter Maria Lopes > marriage to Alvaro Rodrigues 21 Feb 1569, Ponta do Sol (book #454, fl 81) > > Regards, > Lou > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro > Henriques > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION > > Hello Lu, > > Strange ones, how come? They all seem quite normal ones - I mean typical > names from these times. > > Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from what parish? > and Domingos Nunes m, Branca Afonso? She could be a Drummond. Any Drummond > or Escórcio witness in her marriage certificate, or his son or daughter ? > > Regards, > > Miguel > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > All, > > I have the following that appear to be dead ends so I am sending them > out > > to the group to see if anyone has these names, any help or hints are > > appreciated. > > > > Gaspar Dias + Ana Rodrigues dates not recorded, dwelling: Lugar de Baixo > > > > Antao Serradas + Maria Rodrigues dates not recorded > > > > Goncalo Dias + Margarida Rodrigues Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Gregorio Sardinha + Isabel Fernandes dates not recorded > > > > Catarina Dias + Baltasar Fernandes Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Frutuoso Enes + Cecilia Frenandes ca. 1570 > > > > Apolonia Dias + Pedro Goncalos Ponta do Sol May 12 1573 > > > > Joao Pires + Maria Fernandes Ponta do Sol Nov 29 1580 > > > > Domingos Anes + Branca Afonco > > > > Francisco Goncalves Homem + Isabel Pereira ca. 1590 > > > > As you can see I have some strange ones so anything is welcomed. > > > > Lou > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Leandro. It looks great. If you get keep up like this I have to retire just to read all of this stuff! I will one of these days. It seems that you have put a lot of work into this, Leandro. Cheers, José -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] website hey guys, especially Cece, Ed, Jeff, Lou, Zack, Jose, Pat and Zelia, I just updated my website: _http://teles.tribalpages.com_ (http://teles.tribalpages.com) and put your ancestors of each of you with a coloured box, so in that way would be easier to follow p how close we are related. let me know what you guys think thank u leandro In a message dated 12/5/2009 3:44:52 P.M. W. Europe Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lou, Sorry if I disturbed you. I'm in learn mode too, and will forever be. For us living in Portugal they are quite normal, I would say totally expected names from that time, place and circunstances. And most of them, if not all (Frutuoso may have disappeared) are still used today by many people. So Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from Ribeira Brava. He must be from the Homens known to have lived in that place. That's a start. I also have Homens from RB and they certainly are all from the same family. As we know there are four main sources for the name Homem . either Homem de Sousa, Homem de Gouveia, Homem d'El-Rei and simply Homem ( not so simple at all, because a simple Homem may have the name of one of the other three types). In any case the Homem (meaning Man, actually it's a toponymic taken from people living close to the river Homem) or Homens (plural) are a very ancient Portuguese family. Well, I hope I was of some help, Best regards, Miguel PS Who were Álvaro Rodirgues parents? And the witness of his marriage to Maria Lopes? Lopes being a patronymic,from Lopo, at one point Maria has a Lopo as ascendant. Feel free to ask any question you'd like to. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> wrote: > Miguel > Forgive me, the names seem strange to me, I am still in learn mode and > have not seen these names on the list that often if at all. > > Francisco Goncalves Homem is not listed has having a parish, he is > mentioned > in his daughter Ines martins marriage to Francisco Rodrigues Duarte on 16 > Sept 1614, Ribeira Brava (book #389,Fl 153) > > Domingos Anes and Branca Afonco are mentioned in their daughter Maria Lopes > marriage to Alvaro Rodrigues 21 Feb 1569, Ponta do Sol (book #454, fl 81) > > Regards, > Lou > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro > Henriques > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION > > Hello Lu, > > Strange ones, how come? They all seem quite normal ones - I mean typical > names from these times. > > Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from what parish? > and Domingos Nunes m, Branca Afonso? She could be a Drummond. Any Drummond > or Escórcio witness in her marriage certificate, or his son or daughter ? > > Regards, > > Miguel > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > All, > > I have the following that appear to be dead ends so I am sending them > out > > to the group to see if anyone has these names, any help or hints are > > appreciated. > > > > Gaspar Dias + Ana Rodrigues dates not recorded, dwelling: Lugar de Baixo > > > > Antao Serradas + Maria Rodrigues dates not recorded > > > > Goncalo Dias + Margarida Rodrigues Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Gregorio Sardinha + Isabel Fernandes dates not recorded > > > > Catarina Dias + Baltasar Fernandes Ponta do Sol? Prior to 1568 > > > > Frutuoso Enes + Cecilia Frenandes ca. 1570 > > > > Apolonia Dias + Pedro Goncalos Ponta do Sol May 12 1573 > > > > Joao Pires + Maria Fernandes Ponta do Sol Nov 29 1580 > > > > Domingos Anes + Branca Afonco > > > > Francisco Goncalves Homem + Isabel Pereira ca. 1590 > > > > As you can see I have some strange ones so anything is welcomed. > > > > Lou > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message