Thanks Miguel, once again, for sharing your expertise with us. I know that I'm benefitting enormously from your recommendations. And now, I guess I have my bedtime reading cut out for me : ) That is if I can get my hands on the books. Can't wait for the Nesos site to go live again - which I hope they do. I loved browsing through the site and finding all sorts of documents and articles. Hindsight is of course 20/20 vision - wish I had downloaded the ones I referred to often. Thanks again! Janette On 8-Dec-09, at 9:53 AM, Miguel de Castro Henriques wrote: > Lou, > > Clode, HHN and Felisberto were available on-line, on the NESOS site. > We are > all waiting for that site to re-open. It had ALL the books ever > published > about Madeira. > Elucidário Madeirense was on line on Alberto Vieira's site. I think. > I have > a copy of the first edition. > > For illustrious members of madeiran families you have Clode's "Registo > bio-biliográfico de Madeirenses ilustres." My grand-father has the > honour of > being included. (As well as in the "Elucidário"). It is a good > source for > genealogical data, too. > > Elucidário madeirense, too, reports some of the more prominent and > oldest > families. And it is also a genealogical source. Ir refers the > parishes, the > first priests. And the oldest families who settled there and the > names of > the places. > > It has mistakes, of course. And some old families are not referred. > But it > is a must. > > For the moment, though it has mistakes, omissions, etc. and is a bit > ideologically biased, you could also consult Padre Nunes Pereira, > Ilhas de > Zargo- It was on-line, the genealogical part at least. With many of > the > oldest families from Madeira. > At one point we all connect with at least one or some or several of > these > oldest families. > So, Ilhas de Zargo is also a must. > > BTW Pe. Nunes Pereira was closely related to my family. > > Well, I hope I have been of some help, > > > Best regards, > > Miguel > > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Miguel de Castro Henriques < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Lou, >> >> I think that the best introduction to genealogy is History. To set >> the >> families in contrast with their times and societies one should have >> an >> historical background. >> >> So the first book that I suggest you and everyone to read is a book >> of >> Portuguese History. I would recommend "The First Global Village" (How >> Portugal changed the World) by Martin Page, Editorial Notícias. >> Maybe you >> can get it by Amazon. >> >> "Portugal is Europe's south-western extremity washed by the >> Atlantic and >> warmed by the Mediterranean sun. Alone among Iberia's ancient >> kingdoms, it >> is a nation half the size of Florida, with two-thirds the >> population. Yet >> over centuries, it has influenced the lives of the rest of us far >> more than >> many larger and more powerful countries." >> >> "Martin Page provides a fresh perspective on a fascinating country. >> The >> First Global Village is an enthralling narrative. (Peter Wise, the >> Financial >> Times) >> >> >> "Martin Page is full of live" (The New Yorker) >> >> >> Once you got the general picture of Portuguese history and its >> action over >> the whole world, as a madeiran descendant you should read something >> about >> Madeira history. There are several Portuguese and Foreign authors >> who wrote >> about Madeira. You can find on Alberto Vieira's site lots of books >> about >> Madeira. The ones I have at my hand here are all Portuguese. But it >> would be >> a necessary instrument for any madeiran descendant to constitute a >> small >> library with books about Madeira. >> >> >> And only then would I try to select some of the "genealogistas de >> referência." A study on our own roots of course is a study of >> ourselves, so >> genealogy ends up being a discipline of self-knowledge, and not some >> snobbish activity. >> >> >> I will come later to this matter, >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Miguel >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Miguel etal., >>> With all the talk of the founding families and history of >>> Madeira etc., >>> can you suggest a reading list that will enlighten me? Also how >>> readily >>> available are the genealogical works that you all mention so >>> often, Clode, >>> HHN etc. If not available in hard copy what about on the net. >>> Thank you >>> for >>> all the wonderful education and enlightenment on my ancestors. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Lou >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de >>> Castro >>> Henriques >>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:11 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION >>> >>> Sebastiana appears as "Dona" Sebastiana, in the ARM - it shows she >>> had >>> some >>> status as well as her husband. Try to explore the França de >>> Andrade line. >>> I >>> think it's your high road and link to medieval times..Bon voyage! >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Miguel >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Miguel, >>>> Hope all is well with you. No I have not explored that line yet >>>> and >>> yes >>>> Sebastiana is the daughter of Manuel and Catarina #4. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de >>>> Castro >>>> Henriques >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:39 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION >>>> >>>> Hello Lou, >>>> >>>> >>>> The nª 4 Vicente de França de Andrada has a similar name to some >>>> Brasões >>>> Teixeiras and Brasões Gouveias from S. Vicente. Have you explored >>>> his >>> line? >>>> Somehow he must be of the Franças and of the Andrades. >>>> >>>> In 4. Is it Sebastina de A. de dau. of the nº 3 ? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Miguel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 1. Francisco Goncalves Homem + Isabel Pereira (ca. 1590, >>>>> marriage >>> not >>>>> recorded in Ribeira Brava) >>>>> >>>>> 2. Francisco Rodrigues Duarte + Ines Martins(1) (Ribeira >>>>> Brava, >>> 16 >>>>> Sept >>>>> 1614 – B#389, fl 153) >>>>> >>>>> 3. Manuel Duarte(2) + Catarina de Abreu (widow) (Ribeira >>>>> Brava, >>> 27 >>>> Aug >>>>> 1640 – B#390, fl 41) >>>>> >>>>> 4. Vicente de Franca de Andrade + Sebastiana de Abreu(3) (Sao >>>> Vicente, >>>>> 5 Feb 1670 – B#579, fl 53) >>>>> >>>>> 5. Vicente de Franca(4) + Maria de Sa (Sao Vicente, 3 Sept >>>>> 1696 – >>>>> B#556, fl 63) >>>>> >>>>> 6. Basilio Pestana + Josefa de Franca(5) (Serra de Agua, 13 >>>>> June >>>> 1735 >>>>> – >>>>> B#409, fl 24) >>>>> >>>>> 7. Francisco de Andrade(6) + Maria dos Reis (Serra de Agua, >>>>> 20 >>> Feb >>>>> 1770 >>>>> – B#409, fl 79) >>>>> >>>>> 8. Manuel de Andrade Silva(7) + Ana Maria (Serra de Agua, >>>>> 30 Jan >>>> 1815 >>>>> – >>>>> B#411, fl 8) >>>>> >>>>> 9. Manuel Pestana de Gouveia + Delfina Maria(8) (Serra de >>>>> Agua, 9 >>>> July >>>>> 1849 – B#411, fl 110) >>>>> >>>>> 10. Joao de Abreu Amarelo(widower) + Delfina da Conceicao(9) >>>>> Serra >>> de >>>>> Agua, 13 April 1891 – R#6) >>>>> >>>>> 11. Antonio Neves de Abreu Amarelo(10) + Carolina de Sousa da >>> Camara >>>>> (Ponta do Sol, 3 Feb 1916 –R#2) >>>>> >>>>> 12. Louis Neves Abreu(11) + Maria Pita (Lowell, >>>>> Massachusetts USA, >>> 9 >>>>> April 1939) >>>>> >>>>> 13. Louis Neves Abreu Jr(12) + Pauline Alice Genest (Lowell, >>>>> Massachusetts USA, 7 Sept 1959) >>>>> >>>>> 14. Louis Neves Abreu III(13) + Deborah Elaine Bourgeois >>>>> (Lowell, >>>>> Massachusetts, USA 20 Oct 1979) >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:30 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION >>>>> >>>>> yes..it helps a lot. do u have the ancestors of ines? im also >>> descendant >>>> of >>>>> the homem family in ribeira brava >>>>> >>>>> thank you >>>>> >>>>> leandro >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 12/6/2009 1:25:11 A.M. W. Europe Standard Time, >>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>> >>>>> Leandro, >>>>> Okay I see the confusion, let me explain >>>>> >>>>> Ines Martin's Parents are Francisco Goncalves Homem and Isabel >>> Pereira >>>>> (marriage not recorded in Ribeira Brava) >>>>> >>>>> I hope that clears up the confusion. >>>>> >>>>> Lou >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:32 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION >>>>> >>>>> hi lou, my doubt is on the children of pedro afonso and leonor >>>>> homem. >>>>> >>>>> im descended from their dau ines afonso married with fernao >>>>> anes. But >>>> pat >>>>> said that you have their dau as ines martins married with >>>>> francisco >>>>> rodrigues duarte. im really confused about that :) >>>>> >>>>> leandro >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 12/6/2009 12:06:49 A.M. W. Europe Standard >>>>> Time, >>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>> >>>>> Leandro, >>>>> I am not sure which line we are talking about here, sorry I am a >>> little >>>>> spun around on this one, what do you need clarified. >>>>> >>>>> Lou >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:58 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION (Miguel and Lou) >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Pat >>>>> >>>>> Lou...can u pls clarify this line for us please? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Leandro >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 12/5/2009 10:54:59 P.M. W. Europe Standard >>>>> Time, >>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Leandro, >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if this is the same "person." >>>>> >>>>> The only Pedro Afonso (Cavaleiro) I have is married to Leonor >>> Homem, >>>>> with >>>>> the children that I mentioned in my posting attention Miguel and >>> Lou. >>>>> >>>>> I don't have Pedro's parents, but Leonor's parents are Joao >>>>> Homem >>> (de >>>>> Monte Gordo) and Catarina Vaz. >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully Miguel and/or Paulo will be able to add to this >>>>> thread. >>>>> >>>>> Ines Martins is Lou's ancestor... >>>>> >>>>> I must admit I'm more confused now than when I first started my >>>>> genealogy >>>>> quest many, many "moons," ago. I'm finding that what was is >>>>> not >>>>> now...Frustrating to say the least. >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to sort out Jorge Pinto and Leonor de Atouguia da >>> Costa's >>>>> line...my info differs from what's in Norhonha- titulo: >>>>> Pintos... >>>>> Nothing >>>>> consent but the state of change...;-))). >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 1:08:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/ >>>>> Canada >>>> Pacific >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION (Miguel and Lou) >>>>> >>>>> Pat, >>>>> >>>>> I have Pedro afonso and leonor de sousa having a daughter >>>>> called >>> INES >>>>> AFONSO and not ines martins. also she is married to fernao >>>>> anes and >>>> not >>>>> to francisco duarte. Are we talking about the same person on >>>>> here? >>> or >>>>> am i mistaken? >>>>> >>>>> Also, Lou, can you send me on my private email [email protected] >>>>> descendency list of manuel duarte and guiomar camacho please? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Leandro >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Lou Abreu III <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 12:27 pm >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION (Miguel and Lou) >>>>> >>>>> Pat, >>>>> You are correct with the marriage record, however, his >>>>> baptismal >>>>> record (11 Dec 1586 b#376,fl 202) as recorded by Dr. Mello, >>>>> list >>> his >>>>> full name as Francisco Rodrigues Duarte. His line from there >>>>> is as >>>>> follows >>>>> >>>>> Parents Manuel Duarte + Guiomar Camacha Ribeira Brava Nov 26 >>>>> 1584 >>>>> >>>>> Manuel's Parents Francisco Duarte + Maria Fernandes Ribeira >>>>> Brava >>> May >>>>> 22 1560 >>>>> >>>>> Guiomar's Parents Francisco Rodrigues Camacho + Catarina >>>>> Pestana >>>>> >>>>> Does this answer your questions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Lou >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Corbera >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:40 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION (Miguel and Lou) >>>>> >>>>> Miguel, >>>>> >>>>> Isn't Pedro Afonso who is married to Leonor Homem one of your >>> direct >>>>> line ancestors? >>>>> >>>>> Their son Francisco Homem D'El-Rei is my direct line >>>>> ancestors, and >>> if >>>>> my notes/memory serves me correctly Francisco's brother Fernao >>> Ennes >>>> is >>>>> your ancestor... >>>>> >>>>> If the above is correct will you please share the descending >>>>> order >>>> from >>>>> >>>>> Fernao Ennes to you... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> p.s. Lou do you have this marriage record that you referenced >>> below? >>>>> On the Madeira Archives listing for this marriage, the couples' >>> names >>>>> are Ines Martins and Francisco Rodrigues...where did you get >>>>> the >>>> Duarte >>>>> name from? >>>>> >>>>>> Francisco Goncalves Homem is not listed has having a parish, >>>>>> he is >>>>>> mentioned in his daughter Ines martins marriage to Francisco >>>>> Rodrigues Duarte on >16 Sept 1614, Ribeira Brava (book >>>>> #389,Fl 153) >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Miguel de Castro Henriques" < >>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2009 6:43:30 AM GMT -08:00 US/ >>>>> Canada >>>> Pacific >>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION >>>>> >>>>> Lou, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if I disturbed you. I'm in learn mode too, and will >>>>> forever >>> be. >>>>> For us >>>>> living in Portugal they are quite normal, I would say totally >>> expected >>>>> names >>>>> from that time, place and circunstances. And most of them, if >>>>> not >>> all >>>>> (Frutuoso may have disappeared) are still used today by many >>> people. >>>>> >>>>> So Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from Ribeira Brava. He must >>>>> be from >>>> the >>>>> Homens known to have lived in that place. That's a start. I also >>> have >>>>> Homens >>>>> from RB and they certainly are all from the same family. As >>>>> we know >>>>> there >>>>> are four main sources for the name Homem . either Homem de >>>>> Sousa, >>>> Homem >>>>> de >>>>> Gouveia, Homem d'El-Rei and simply Homem ( not so simple at >>>>> all, >>>>> because a >>>>> simple Homem may have the name of one of the other three >>>>> types). >>>>> >>>>> In any case the Homem (meaning Man, actually it's a toponymic >>>>> taken >>>>> from >>>>> people living close to the river Homem) or Homens (plural) >>>>> are a >>> very >>>>> ancient Portuguese family. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, I hope I was of some help, >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Miguel >>>>> >>>>> PS Who were Álvaro Rodirgues parents? And the witness of his >>> marriage >>>>> to >>>>> Maria Lopes? >>>>> >>>>> Lopes being a patronymic,from Lopo, at one point Maria has a >>>>> Lopo >>>> as >>>>> ascendant. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to ask any question you'd like to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Lou Abreu III <[email protected] >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Miguel >>>>>> Forgive me, the names seem strange to me, I am still in learn >>> mode >>>>> and >>>>>> have not seen these names on the list that often if at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Francisco Goncalves Homem is not listed has having a parish, >>>>>> he >>> is >>>>>> mentioned >>>>>> in his daughter Ines martins marriage to Francisco Rodrigues >>> Duarte >>>>> on 16 >>>>>> Sept 1614, Ribeira Brava (book #389,Fl 153) >>>>>> >>>>>> Domingos Anes and Branca Afonco are mentioned in their daughter >>>> Maria >>>>> Lopes >>>>>> marriage to Alvaro Rodrigues 21 Feb 1569, Ponta do Sol (book >>> #454, >>>> fl >>>>> 81) >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Lou >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel >>>>>> de >>>>> Castro >>>>>> Henriques >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:35 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP QUESTION >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Lu, >>>>>> >>>>>> Strange ones, how come? They all seem quite normal ones - I >>>>>> mean >>>>> typical >>>>>> names from these times. >>>>>> >>>>>> Francisco Gonçalves Homem is from what parish? >>>>>> and Domingos Nunes m, Branca Afonso? She could be a >>>>>> Drummond. Any >>>>> Drummond >>>>>> or Escórcio witness in her marriage certificate, or his son >>>>>> or >>>>> daughter ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Miguel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Lou Abreu III < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> I have the following that appear to be dead ends so I am >>> sending >>>>> them >>>>>> out >>>>>>> to the group to see if anyone has these names, any help or >>> hints >>>> are >>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gaspar Dias + Ana Rodrigues dates not recorded, dwelling: >>>>>>> Lugar >>> de >>>>> Baixo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Antao Serradas + Maria Rodrigues dates not recorded >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Goncalo Dias + Margarida Rodrigues Ponta do Sol? Prior to >>> 1568 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gregorio Sardinha + Isabel Fernandes dates not recorded >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Catarina Dias + Baltasar Fernandes Ponta do Sol? Prior to >>>>>>> 1568 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Frutuoso Enes + Cecilia Frenandes ca. 1570 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apolonia Dias + Pedro Goncalos Ponta do Sol May 12 1573 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joao Pires + Maria Fernandes Ponta do Sol Nov 29 1580 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domingos Anes + Branca Afonco >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Francisco Goncalves Homem + Isabel Pereira ca. 1590 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As you can see I have some strange ones so anything is >>> welcomed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lou >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 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