Does this tie into the Rui Garcia discussion we were having a while back? We had said that Aires Goncalves m. Isabel Ferraz c 1500 their son Artur Goncalves m. Madalena de Abreu c. 1530 (which jibes with your dates for their in-laws) their daughter Maria de Abreu m. Baltazar Martins c 1550 (she would be the sister of your Ana Ferraz de Abreu?) and had seven children, one of which, Madalena de Abreu m. Rui Garcia 10/17/1584 Estreito de Camara de Lobos Is this right then, that your Ana Ferraz de Abreu is sister of my Maria de Abreu? Jeff On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Cece Camara wrote: I have this quote from you attached to Diogo Ornelas de Vasconcelos: "DOV is the son of Manuel Fernandes de Castro (m. 1540) Brites de Góis dau. of Mem de Ornelas and Brites de Góis. Ana Ferraz de Abreu, his wife, is the dau. of Cavaleiro Artur Gonçalves, the trunk of the Ferrazes. Check Castros in NESOS - last page" As Nesos - is sadly no longer with us - can you tell me who Ana Ferraz de Abreu's mother is (wife of Artur Goncalves) Also wondering if you know who either of their parents are as well. Thanks and Happy New Years Eve!! Cece ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It does. Because apparently there is just one source for the name Ferraz: Artur Gonçalves or his wife. And yes Maria de Abreu could be the sister of AFA- "Could", not "is". Miguel On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:00 PM, JAndrade1 <[email protected]> wrote: > Does this tie into the Rui Garcia discussion we were having a while > back? > We had said that Aires Goncalves m. Isabel Ferraz c 1500 > their son Artur Goncalves m. Madalena de Abreu c. 1530 (which jibes > with your dates for their in-laws) > their daughter Maria de Abreu m. Baltazar Martins c 1550 (she would > be the sister of your Ana Ferraz de Abreu?) > and had seven children, one of which, > Madalena de Abreu m. Rui Garcia 10/17/1584 Estreito de Camara de Lobos > > Is this right then, that your Ana Ferraz de Abreu is sister of my > Maria de Abreu? > Jeff > > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Cece Camara wrote: > > I have this quote from you attached to Diogo Ornelas de Vasconcelos: > "DOV is the son of Manuel Fernandes de Castro (m. 1540) Brites de > Góis dau. > of Mem de Ornelas and Brites de Góis. > Ana Ferraz de Abreu, his wife, is the dau. of Cavaleiro Artur > Gonçalves, the > trunk of the Ferrazes. > Check Castros in NESOS - last page" > > As Nesos - is sadly no longer with us - can you tell me who Ana > Ferraz de > Abreu's mother is (wife of Artur Goncalves) > Also wondering if you know who either of their parents are as well. > > Thanks and Happy New Years Eve!! > > Cece > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In GIT (Genealogias da Ilha Terceira) vol VI pg 690 Ana Ferraz de Abreu is said to be the dau of Mateus Gonçalves and Maria de Góis. We know that we can't take genealogies at face value, but iIf that is true, that Gonçalves chap could carry the name Ferraz. Any Mateus amongst Artur's sons? On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Miguel de Castro Henriques < [email protected]> wrote: > It does. Because apparently there is just one source for the name Ferraz: > Artur Gonçalves or his wife. > And yes Maria de Abreu could be the sister of AFA- "Could", not "is". > > > Miguel > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:00 PM, JAndrade1 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Does this tie into the Rui Garcia discussion we were having a while >> back? >> We had said that Aires Goncalves m. Isabel Ferraz c 1500 >> their son Artur Goncalves m. Madalena de Abreu c. 1530 (which jibes >> with your dates for their in-laws) >> their daughter Maria de Abreu m. Baltazar Martins c 1550 (she would >> be the sister of your Ana Ferraz de Abreu?) >> and had seven children, one of which, >> Madalena de Abreu m. Rui Garcia 10/17/1584 Estreito de Camara de Lobos >> >> Is this right then, that your Ana Ferraz de Abreu is sister of my >> Maria de Abreu? >> Jeff >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Cece Camara wrote: >> >> I have this quote from you attached to Diogo Ornelas de Vasconcelos: >> "DOV is the son of Manuel Fernandes de Castro (m. 1540) Brites de >> Góis dau. >> of Mem de Ornelas and Brites de Góis. >> Ana Ferraz de Abreu, his wife, is the dau. of Cavaleiro Artur >> Gonçalves, the >> trunk of the Ferrazes. >> Check Castros in NESOS - last page" >> >> As Nesos - is sadly no longer with us - can you tell me who Ana >> Ferraz de >> Abreu's mother is (wife of Artur Goncalves) >> Also wondering if you know who either of their parents are as well. >> >> Thanks and Happy New Years Eve!! >> >> Cece >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >