Almost everyone with ancestors in Gaula in the 17 th century has met several times with the flourished signature of Padre Joseph Telles de Meneses, also known as Joseph Tello, vigário da Gaula. He was almost omnipresent not only celebrating marriages, his role after all, but as witness of other marriages, or godfather. He is probably one of the men who wrote more times his signature in marriage documents. He had to had some exuberance and vitality, I thought. Well, finally I caught the reverend not acting in a reverend way, So the reverend Vigário de Gaula, after all, was human... and so he had one daughter and one son, from two different women, The first appropriately called Teresa dos Mártires, from Leonor da Mata. and from Isabel Moreira, he had Manuel. As we say in good and discreet Portuguese, "era fresco!" All this is referred in PA, Tomo 1-10 parte, pg243. Miguel