Hi Pat and David, Pat - I am so sorry, I think I missed a post somewhere and never answered you. Unfortunately, I do not know the names of Luis' parents because I have never viewed the Caniço films. I do have his birthdate of 25 Aug 1906 and he died in Pico do Funcho, São Martinho, Funchal on 21 Sep 1986. Clarisse was born in the same Pico do Funcho on 14 Oct 1912 and died there 28 May 1987. They did not have any children. They were married around 1960. I agree with you that the Chicaro name is a key connection here and I would love to pursue it. If you have access to the Caniço films, maybe you could look up Luis' birth record and get his parents names, that seems to be what we need right now. Maybe that information would help establish a link with David as well. Denise D'Antona In a message dated 1/1/2010 9:42:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Denise and Pat, In our family papers, we have a letter dated May 20, 1962, which was written by a Henry Nobrega to his aunt Francisca da Silva in New York. The letter was written from aboard the U.S. Navy ship "Niagara". It is in Portuguese and in the letter, Henry Nobrega asks about news from Madeira. The USS Niagara home port was Boston. With Massachusetts and Nobrega and Silva all in this series of posts, can either of you make any connections? I know the time frame is different, but maybe Massachusetts was chosen to come to because of relatives already there. Thanks, David DeGrella Tennessee, USA On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Pat Corbera <[email protected]> writes: > Hi Denise, > > I located a New York Passenger Lists. 1820-1957> 1920> October>16> > Manchuria > Sailing from St. Michael's (Sao Miguel, Azores) Oct. 9, 1920 > (Source: Ancestry.com) > > Line 10 Chicharo, Jose N. age 20 married laborer > Line 11 Chicharo, Eliza A. age 16 wife domestic > from Canico... Next of kin is father Jose N. Chicharro - Canico > Final Destination - Cambridge MA > Joining - Uncle Pedro Nobrega - 76 Fifth St. Cambridge, Mass. > > Denise, I think this is our connection. This must be Luis' brother, > that your dad said lived in Cambridge, MA. > > Jose and Eliza/Elisa are my cousin, Joe's maternal grandparents. > > What additional info do you have on Luis' family...? > > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Corbera" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:11:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Nobrega Clan > > Denise, > > This is interesting Clarisse Goncalves de Freitas and Luis Nobrega > Chicharro... there must be a connection with Joseph Nobrega > Chicharro and Elisa Freitas. > > Joseph Nobrega Chicharro born abt 1900 and Elisa Freitas born abt > 1914... What are the birth dates for your Clarisse and Luis? > > I remember seeing Cambridge MA on the census as being in Middlesex > County... Joe's (my cousin) family lived in Lowell, also Middlesex > County. > > I think Mary Silva Frost, one of our list members also either > lives/lived or has family from Lowell... Maybe her Silvas are also > linked with this family. > > To add to this mystery/search of finding family, I recently came > across a Manuel Jardim, while viewing the ARM Passport Records... > his father is listed with a surname of da Silva Se' and his mother's > maiden name is Jardim... long story short he is the brother of my > maternal grandfather, Antonio da Silva Se'... I would never had > connected him to my da Silva Se' family had it not been for ARM > online input. > > I think some ancestors/relatives want to be found, while others > continue to play > "hide and seek." ;-)). > > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:16:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Nobrega Clan > > Thanks Pat. My aunt was Clarisse Goncalves de Freitas from Sao > Martinho. > My father said that Luis had a brother that lived in Cambridge MA. > > Denise D'Antona ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Denise and David, Denise, the posting/e-mail exchange that focused on the name of "Chicaro," had to do with my cousin...at this point I'm not too sure it was anything to do with David's research...but I need to re-read that complete exchange. David, Have you obtained copies of the vital records from the Madeira Archives for your ancestors that you listed on the pedigree chart that you sent to me? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2010 1:26:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Nobrega Clan Hi Pat and David, Pat - I am so sorry, I think I missed a post somewhere and never answered you. Unfortunately, I do not know the names of Luis' parents because I have never viewed the Caniço films. I do have his birthdate of 25 Aug 1906 and he died in Pico do Funcho, São Martinho, Funchal on 21 Sep 1986. Clarisse was born in the same Pico do Funcho on 14 Oct 1912 and died there 28 May 1987. They did not have any children. They were married around 1960. I agree with you that the Chicaro name is a key connection here and I would love to pursue it. If you have access to the Caniço films, maybe you could look up Luis' birth record and get his parents names, that seems to be what we need right now. Maybe that information would help establish a link with David as well. Denise D'Antona In a message dated 1/1/2010 9:42:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Denise and Pat, In our family papers, we have a letter dated May 20, 1962, which was written by a Henry Nobrega to his aunt Francisca da Silva in New York. The letter was written from aboard the U.S. Navy ship "Niagara". It is in Portuguese and in the letter, Henry Nobrega asks about news from Madeira. The USS Niagara home port was Boston. With Massachusetts and Nobrega and Silva all in this series of posts, can either of you make any connections? I know the time frame is different, but maybe Massachusetts was chosen to come to because of relatives already there. Thanks, David DeGrella Tennessee, USA On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Pat Corbera <[email protected]> writes: > Hi Denise, > > I located a New York Passenger Lists. 1820-1957> 1920> October>16> > Manchuria > Sailing from St. Michael's (Sao Miguel, Azores) Oct. 9, 1920 > (Source: Ancestry.com) > > Line 10 Chicharo, Jose N. age 20 married laborer > Line 11 Chicharo, Eliza A. age 16 wife domestic > from Canico... Next of kin is father Jose N. Chicharro - Canico > Final Destination - Cambridge MA > Joining - Uncle Pedro Nobrega - 76 Fifth St. Cambridge, Mass. > > Denise, I think this is our connection. This must be Luis' brother, > that your dad said lived in Cambridge, MA. > > Jose and Eliza/Elisa are my cousin, Joe's maternal grandparents. > > What additional info do you have on Luis' family...? > > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Corbera" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:11:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Nobrega Clan > > Denise, > > This is interesting Clarisse Goncalves de Freitas and Luis Nobrega > Chicharro... there must be a connection with Joseph Nobrega > Chicharro and Elisa Freitas. > > Joseph Nobrega Chicharro born abt 1900 and Elisa Freitas born abt > 1914... What are the birth dates for your Clarisse and Luis? > > I remember seeing Cambridge MA on the census as being in Middlesex > County... Joe's (my cousin) family lived in Lowell, also Middlesex > County. > > I think Mary Silva Frost, one of our list members also either > lives/lived or has family from Lowell... Maybe her Silvas are also > linked with this family. > > To add to this mystery/search of finding family, I recently came > across a Manuel Jardim, while viewing the ARM Passport Records... > his father is listed with a surname of da Silva Se' and his mother's > maiden name is Jardim... long story short he is the brother of my > maternal grandfather, Antonio da Silva Se'... I would never had > connected him to my da Silva Se' family had it not been for ARM > online input. > > I think some ancestors/relatives want to be found, while others > continue to play > "hide and seek." ;-)). > > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:16:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Nobrega Clan > > Thanks Pat. My aunt was Clarisse Goncalves de Freitas from Sao > Martinho. > My father said that Luis had a brother that lived in Cambridge MA. > > Denise D'Antona ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message