Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is a small world Who knows they may have known each other? Not sure how long they lived in Fall River. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:36 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > Small world even in USA. :-) > My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA > in > 1924. > Mary da Silva Frost > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of > Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who > resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Mary, I thought of you when I was typing the name of the ship... didn't your ancestors travel on the Cretic? My maternal grandparents, along with my mom and one uncle sailed to the USA from Madeira on the S.S. Cretic in 1906. I've seen that ship listed many times, wonder how many trips it actually made to the USA carrying our Portuguese ancestors/relatives ? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:36:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ---- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives.

Yep, sure is a small world... I'm originally from Fall River too, off Brayton Ave., but my Uncle Manuel P. Castro's mother lived around 590 Columbia St. and got married at Santo Christo Church there. Jeff On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Mary Frost wrote: Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Pat, Thank you very much! They are my great grandparents. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Corbera" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:18 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

You're welcome... I looked for an arrival date for your great-grandfather, but didn't find one... it was a quick look, so most likely it's there... What is your name? Are your Souza/Sousa family from Madeira also? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 6:25:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello Pat, Thank you very much! They are my great grandparents. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Corbera" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:18 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ssouza? I was looking in the www.arquivo-madeira.org and I haven't found this marriage. It probably took place after 1910. However there is a António Serrão marrying a Luisa de Jesus in 1885- Arco da Calheta. Maria was 25 in 1912. So these could be her parents. I suspect that the j. in Maria's name is Jesus. There are at least 5 males from Arco identified in the arquivo. I suspect that they are all related. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SSouza It must be a slow day!...But as a follow-up, I have also checked the Passport data base and I found that a Maria de Jesus, whose mother was Luisa de Jesus but of unknown father (!) requested a passport in August,1912. She is from Arco da Calheta and she is 25 and it says she is going to join her husband. Her husband is Francisco Rodrigues Lucas. His father is Manuel Rodrigues Lucas and mother is Carolina de Jesus. Francisco Rodrigues Lucas requests a passport in June 1909. He is 24 and is married. Francisco marries Maria in 1908 in estreito da Calheta- Book 7582A, page 9. You can request all of these files from the Arquivo. All the info seems to make sense. You have a lot to go on. Cheers, José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fernandes, Jose Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Ssouza? I was looking in the www.arquivo-madeira.org and I haven't found this marriage. It probably took place after 1910. However there is a António Serrão marrying a Luisa de Jesus in 1885- Arco da Calheta. Maria was 25 in 1912. So these could be her parents. I suspect that the j. in Maria's name is Jesus. There are at least 5 males from Arco identified in the arquivo. I suspect that they are all related. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message