Paulo, To answer your question about how I am descended...as I said, I am not descended from Nuno Goncalves Cardoso who married Catarina de Roz but rather from Nuno's great grandparents...Catarina Pires de Quintal, daughter of Pedro Lopes de Quintal. It goes like this: Pedro Lopes de Quintal Caterina Pires & Fernao Nunes Cardoso Nuno Fernandes Cardoso & Leonor Dias Fernao Nunes Cardoso & Isabel Teixeira de Gois -also- Isabel Nunes & Lancarote Teixeira de Gois Antonio Teixeira Cardoso & Beatris de Almada - also -Maria de Gois & Joao Teixeira de Vasconcellos As you can imagine it gets more convoluted as I go on as I now descend from multiple children...but if you want further details...just ask. Good to hear from you! Cece -----Original Message----- From: Cece Camara [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:18 PM To: 'Cece-HQ' Subject: FW: [PT-MADEIRA] Azevedos Cardosos -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos Perneta Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Azevedos Cardosos Hello Cece, Hope you have had a merry Xmas and an happy new year. :) Catarina de Raz, I believe, rather than Roz, at least it's how it's written most of the time in their signatures: His brother Luís de Raz signed "Luis Daras", maybe the name is Aras or Arras, which brings potential confusion with the Arrais (not related, as far as I know). I seem to recall reading somewhere - Catarina Michaelis? - that it's from Flemish origin, but I don't know any basis for that. Anyway, how do you descend from that people? Cheers, Paulo Cece Camara <[email protected]> wrote in Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:01:21 -0600: > Just working this genealogia as the first few names in it are direct for me > (namely Catarina Pires de Quintal, daughter of Pedro Lopes de Quintal). > Further on I came across Nuno Goncalves Cardoso who married (it says) > Catarina de Roz daughter of Nicolau de Roz and Isaura Perestrello. > I've never seen the name Roz before - and it does not appear to be an > abbreviation for Rodrigues as I initially thought. It also says they are > from the Titulo de Henriques Alemao- another one I am not familiar with. > Just thought I'd see if anyone can shed any more light on either of these > names. > Cece > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2667 - Release Date: 02/04/10 07:35:00