>>i can see that is only tracing my dads side of the family, in which i have no idea where they really come from Leandro, If this is true - then how can you have taken the wrong tests - sounds to me you have taken the right tests :-) Hope you are well! Cece -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of leandro deoliveira Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:14 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] DNA Tests Hi Cheri.... Even with my 2 kits that i have, i think i screwed up big time :( Im trying to find out my maternal grandfather line. The thing is that i dont have uncles, my grand dad is dead and he only had sisters that all died already as well. so when i took both tests i was thinking that somehow it would be traced at least in one of them...but reading now your emails i can see that is only tracing my dads side of the family, in which i have no idea where they really come from leandro On 23 Nov 2011, at 18:06, Cheri Mello wrote: > Hi Betty, > > DNA for genealogy has been on the market for about 10 or 11 years now, but > it probably took about 5 years to get the word out and to get people to > understand it. Or somewhat understand it, I should say. > > For a half-Portuguese man and his results: > It depends on which test he takes. If his surname is Portuguese (or a > variation/Anglicized version) and he takes a Y-DNA test, then he will be > tracing father's father's father's line. He will get a list of matches > with their email addresses. I encourage people to upload their Gedcoms > (from their genealogy software program) so the matches can see their line. > My dad is half Portuguese on his paternal side. Since his surname is > Mello, the Y-DNA test is tracing his father's father's line (back to that > Jacome guy). My dad get a list of matches, but they were at the 25 marker > level, which means their common ancestor was probably a thousand years > ago. A bit too far back for my genealogy. I did not expect my dad to get > a genealogy-relevant match on his Y-DNA though. That's because the Azores > are 9 islands. Even though my dad's family comes from the largest of the 9 > islands, not enough people have yet test from that island, let alone that > freguesia. I would think that once more men from Madeira test their Y-DNA, > they would be getting matches much, much sooner. > > Now, for a half-Portuguese (or a quarter or even less), he could take > Family Finder. That test has been on the market now for about 1.5 years. > I tested my dad's DNA a year ago, and things are starting to fall into > place. I think he had maybe 5 or 6 pages of matches (so 50 or 60 people). > Now he has 10 pages of matches. They range from the 2nd cousin level to > the 5th/Distant cousin level. I know how 5 or so of them fit into the > tree. I have about 4 or 5 who I think I know how they should fit, but the > match does not have all the research yet done on that line. They email me > when they find info. I'm guessing that my dad's matches on Family Finder > are probably 2/3 to 3/4 American (ultimately British Isles) type lines, > since there are a lot more of those researchers out there. The remainder > are Portuguese. And then there are those that I can't tell. Mrs. Jane > Doe. I don't know if her maiden name was Portuguese or she's matching on > my dad's American side. If I see the Gedcom button, I click it and take a > look. If not, I email. This Family Finder test is not a straight shot > like the Y-DNA (my father's father's father's line that winds up as a > Jacome). This one is a plate full of spaghetti and I have to try to > separate it to figure out which line came from where. It's fun and > frustrating sometimes. But mostly fun. > > I have not tested my dad's mtDNA (which is his American side which appears > to be something British). It's a brickwall and my paperwork on that only > goes to the mid-1800s. Since my dad's DNA will be stored for 25 years or > longer, I want to attack that line more with research first. But if I do > test it, I will do the whole Full Genetic Test or Full Genome or Full > Sequence (they keep marketing it differently). And I may do it when I find > another person who thinks that they come from the same ancestor. > > The Portuguese uncle would be good to test for either Y-DNA and definitely > for Family Finder since he's the older generation. Generally speaking, > it's usually better to test an older person, if that person's genealogy > covers your goals. > > Expenses: Well, depending on how you look at it, DNA can be expensive. > However, with one of my brickwalls, I drove up to the Los Angeles FHC on > numerous occasions (gas money), flew to Salt Lake (airfare, hotel, and > food), flew to St. Joseph, MO (air, hotel, food again + rent a car), and > east Tennessee. I don't even want to think how much money I spent on that > line. But I got to see a lot of really neat places and meet some really > good people, so I'm not complaining. How that wall was broken? A 2nd > cousin took a DNA test and it matched someone whose paper trail left the > burnt out east Tennessee and we got a match that way! > > So far, I've had no rich Portuguese person leave their fortune to my DNA > projects. Since FTDNA runs the holiday sale yearly (for the last 5 or 6 > years), some people save their money all year long and buy a test at the > end of the year. Some find a cousin or two who do genealogy and split the > cost. If it's Y-DNA, some buy the lower marker (Y-DNA 12 marker) and > upgrade as funds become available. Family Tree DNA does have a layaway > plan that they don't advertise. Once the kit is paid off, you can mail in > the DNA sample and it will be processed. > > On your U.K. match, you didn't state how many markers it was or the > haplogroup. Or how common the UK surname is. > > Hope I gave you a few ideas and cleared up a few questions. > > Cheri Mello > Family Tree DNA Admin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4034 - Release Date: 11/23/11