Hi cece what i meant was that i wanted to research my mothers father side of the family and i guess all that i had is my dads line :( Hugs to you and Ed! x On 24 Nov 2011, at 15:18, Cece Camara wrote: >>> i can see that is only tracing my dads side of the family, in which i have > no idea where they really come from > > Leandro, > If this is true - then how can you have taken the wrong tests - sounds to me > you have taken the right tests :-) > Hope you are well! > Cece > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of leandro deoliveira > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:14 AM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] DNA Tests > > Hi Cheri.... > > Even with my 2 kits that i have, i think i screwed up big time :( > > Im trying to find out my maternal grandfather line. The thing is that i dont > have uncles, my grand dad is dead and he only had sisters that all died > already as well. > > so when i took both tests i was thinking that somehow it would be traced at > least in one of them...but reading now your emails i can see that is only > tracing my dads side of the family, in which i have no idea where they > really come from > > leandro > > > > > On 23 Nov 2011, at 18:06, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> Hi Betty, >> >> DNA for genealogy has been on the market for about 10 or 11 years now, but >> it probably took about 5 years to get the word out and to get people to >> understand it. Or somewhat understand it, I should say. >> >> For a half-Portuguese man and his results: >> It depends on which test he takes. If his surname is Portuguese (or a >> variation/Anglicized version) and he takes a Y-DNA test, then he will be >> tracing father's father's father's line. He will get a list of matches >> with their email addresses. I encourage people to upload their Gedcoms >> (from their genealogy software program) so the matches can see their line. >> My dad is half Portuguese on his paternal side. Since his surname is >> Mello, the Y-DNA test is tracing his father's father's line (back to that >> Jacome guy). My dad get a list of matches, but they were at the 25 marker >> level, which means their common ancestor was probably a thousand years >> ago. A bit too far back for my genealogy. I did not expect my dad to get >> a genealogy-relevant match on his Y-DNA though. That's because the Azores >> are 9 islands. Even though my dad's family comes from the largest of the > 9 >> islands, not enough people have yet test from that island, let alone that >> freguesia. I would think that once more men from Madeira test their > Y-DNA, >> they would be getting matches much, much sooner. >> >> Now, for a half-Portuguese (or a quarter or even less), he could take >> Family Finder. That test has been on the market now for about 1.5 years. >> I tested my dad's DNA a year ago, and things are starting to fall into >> place. I think he had maybe 5 or 6 pages of matches (so 50 or 60 people). >> Now he has 10 pages of matches. They range from the 2nd cousin level to >> the 5th/Distant cousin level. I know how 5 or so of them fit into the >> tree. I have about 4 or 5 who I think I know how they should fit, but the >> match does not have all the research yet done on that line. They email me >> when they find info. I'm guessing that my dad's matches on Family Finder >> are probably 2/3 to 3/4 American (ultimately British Isles) type lines, >> since there are a lot more of those researchers out there. The remainder >> are Portuguese. And then there are those that I can't tell. Mrs. Jane >> Doe. I don't know if her maiden name was Portuguese or she's matching on >> my dad's American side. If I see the Gedcom button, I click it and take a >> look. If not, I email. This Family Finder test is not a straight shot >> like the Y-DNA (my father's father's father's line that winds up as a >> Jacome). This one is a plate full of spaghetti and I have to try to >> separate it to figure out which line came from where. It's fun and >> frustrating sometimes. But mostly fun. >> >> I have not tested my dad's mtDNA (which is his American side which appears >> to be something British). It's a brickwall and my paperwork on that only >> goes to the mid-1800s. Since my dad's DNA will be stored for 25 years or >> longer, I want to attack that line more with research first. But if I do >> test it, I will do the whole Full Genetic Test or Full Genome or Full >> Sequence (they keep marketing it differently). And I may do it when I > find >> another person who thinks that they come from the same ancestor. >> >> The Portuguese uncle would be good to test for either Y-DNA and definitely >> for Family Finder since he's the older generation. Generally speaking, >> it's usually better to test an older person, if that person's genealogy >> covers your goals. >> >> Expenses: Well, depending on how you look at it, DNA can be expensive. >> However, with one of my brickwalls, I drove up to the Los Angeles FHC on >> numerous occasions (gas money), flew to Salt Lake (airfare, hotel, and >> food), flew to St. Joseph, MO (air, hotel, food again + rent a car), and >> east Tennessee. I don't even want to think how much money I spent on that >> line. But I got to see a lot of really neat places and meet some really >> good people, so I'm not complaining. How that wall was broken? A 2nd >> cousin took a DNA test and it matched someone whose paper trail left the >> burnt out east Tennessee and we got a match that way! >> >> So far, I've had no rich Portuguese person leave their fortune to my DNA >> projects. Since FTDNA runs the holiday sale yearly (for the last 5 or 6 >> years), some people save their money all year long and buy a test at the >> end of the year. Some find a cousin or two who do genealogy and split the >> cost. If it's Y-DNA, some buy the lower marker (Y-DNA 12 marker) and >> upgrade as funds become available. Family Tree DNA does have a layaway >> plan that they don't advertise. Once the kit is paid off, you can mail in >> the DNA sample and it will be processed. >> >> On your U.K. match, you didn't state how many markers it was or the >> haplogroup. Or how common the UK surname is. >> >> Hope I gave you a few ideas and cleared up a few questions. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Family Tree DNA Admin >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4034 - Release Date: 11/23/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message