Hi Janette, I had the same problem when I first tried sending my message...then I just forwarded the "undelivable," email to the list and it posted... I'm sending your message to the list to see if gets posted... Pat ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Janette Chun" <janettechun@shaw.ca> To: "Pat Corbera" <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:14:28 AM Subject: Fwd: [PT-MADEIRA] Fwd: Re: Fw: Failure Notice Hi Pat, Apologies for sending this to you. I've tried several times to reply to the prt-madeira address but it bounces back as undeliverable. I am receiving messages but for some reason don't seem to be able to reply. Perhaps you could forward to Philip my two cents: yes translation as I understood it. There is reference to the family living in Sao Pedro which is part of the same 'conselho' - my understanding of this term is the equivalent of a municipality. The third child's name could be Carolina. I agree the last para of the document is extremely difficult to read, but it definitely references servants and I think taking them with them. Perhaps Luis/Miguel/Jose who are more familiar with these documents will be able to fill in the missing bits. Thanks! Janette Begin forwarded message: From: Pat Corbera < PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net > Date: June 19, 2011 11:07:21 PM PDT (CA) To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Fwd: Re: Fw: Failure Notice Reply-To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Hi Philip, You're welcome...whenever I see a Freitas surname, I hope that it will link with either my paternal and or my maternal ancestors... Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Rodrigues" < philrod51@yahoo.ca > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 8:48:31 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Fwd: Re: Fw: Failure Notice Thanks Pat that is what I read. The rest is difficult to make out. I Appreciate it. Philip ________________________________ From: Pat Corbera < PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 3:51:57 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Fwd: Re: Fw: Failure Notice Philip, Here's my input... Agostinho da Freitas, married, son of Agostinho de Freitas and Genoviva de Freitas, native of Camara da Lobas (not too sure of the next wording) but something to do with Santana de Sao Pedro... something to do with possible travel to Demarara with his wife Maria de Freitas, daughter of Manuel Rodrigues and a Maria Joaquina, native of Demarara. Children listed are Maria, Agostinho and looks like Manuel or maybe Manuelina (?)all from Demarara. I think it goes on to say something about a "criada," Maria Rodrigues, daughter of Antonio Rodrigues e da Maria de Jesus, widow, native of the village of Estreito da Calheta...? as to the reminder of this document, other than Funchal, 22 August 1888. Pat Silva Corbera Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Abreu III" < deepsea06@gmail.com > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 6:40:13 AM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Fwd: Re: Fw: Failure Notice -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Fw: Failure Notice Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Rodrigues < philrod51@yahoo.ca > To: deepsea06 < deepsea06@gmail.com > Hi Lou, Thanks from getting back to me. This was my message. "Hello to all on the list, I received this document in a passport package and I believe it is a marriage certificate. I would appreciate any help with the translation. I know it is Agostinho de freitas son of Agostinho de freitas and Genoveva de freitas. Then it mentions Maria Rodrigues daughter of Manuel Rpdrigigues and Maria Joaquina. I believe it says they were married in Demerara and that she was native to Demerara. Then it goes on to mention the three children Maria, Agostinho and Manuel. Is there something that I have missed, or overlooked? Your assistance is greatly appreciated. right click on the link to save the document **Agostinho de freitas marriage Maria Rodrigues* < http://www3.sympatico.ca/debrod/agomaria.jpg >* Thanks" Philip http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/