Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:25:21 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address i am in jos fernandes From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:21:50 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address Did anyone receive this message? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour

Hi- I have been stuck for ages so am not as far back as you lot are....HOWEVER; I have: Emanuel Antonio Pereira born to Antonio Pereira and his wife Maria Gomes in St. John's, Antigua, W.I. on 28 Jan. 1871 I BELIVE Emanuel had 2 sisters-but am not 100% certain-(about 98.5% certain!) They were: Caroline Pereira Born 15 July 1865 in Basseterre, St. Christopher (now St. Kitts) W.I. (God parents were: John Gumbs and Maria Gumbs (not sure if they were Husband/wife or Brother/sister) And Mary Pereira born 15 October 1867 born in St. John's, Antigua, W.I. Mary Pereira married Emanuel Teshara (Teixeira) in St. John's Antigua, W.I. on 24 September 1879- she was a minor and her guardian Maximilian Joachim made his mark (both the bride and groom signed on their own behalf). Emanuel Pereira (MY Grandfather) died in Antigua, Mary and Caroline both emigrated to New York and eventually died there (as well as Mary's daughters') . I have documentation of the 3 siblings' births, the death records of each as well as Ellis Island records for those who emigrated to the US (and Emanuel who visited his sisters). I have a number of US Census for Mary & Caroline (as well as for Mary's 2 daughters) I have been unable to find any record of Antonia Pereira and his wife Maria Gomes (ANY spelling!!) arriving in the W.I.- Leaving Madeira, marrying or etc... Anyway- there they are, Pat. Melanie . -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-22-11 11:10 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:25:21 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address i am in jos fernandes From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:21:50 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address Did anyone receive this message? 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Hi Pat, I have a Pereira from estreito da Calheta - I'm sure we will have a match at some point. Francisco Pereira and his wife Gianv? Rodrigues could not find this one. about 1600 also Jacinto Pereira married Maria da Graça 1709 estreito da calheta his parents are Manuel Pereira Ana da Estrela 1673 Calheta Cheers Philip http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 2:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:25:21 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address i am in jos fernandes From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:21:50 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address Did anyone receive this message? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Philip, I'm sure you and I will locate a Pereira link from Estreito da Calheta...I hope that ARM inputs the bapt info for Estreito soon... I was just looking at my paternal pedigree charts and much to my surprise at seeing the many Pereira ancestors that I have... Next week I'll post those lines...hopefully they'll make a hit with list members.. to be continued: Cheers: Prima Pat p.s. we're still related via our Borrageiro ancestry from the Estreito da Calheta. Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Rodrigues" <philrod51@yahoo.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:01:38 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Pat, I have a Pereira from estreito da Calheta - I'm sure we will have a match at some point. Francisco Pereira and his wife Gianv? Rodrigues could not find this one. about 1600 also Jacinto Pereira married Maria da Graça 1709 estreito da calheta his parents are Manuel Pereira Ana da Estrela 1673 Calheta Cheers Philip http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 2:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... 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Pat , I have Roza listed in my Family tree (she is my Grandmother) Francisca De Jesus is her mother. The father is unknown but family said he was an Antonio Pereira from Extreito da Calhetta. How does one find that out? Where do you look to link him to the actual birth? I have a web site for the Lopes family if you would like to visit it and give me an opinion of what I have done to date. I am at a loss as to how to link our Andre Lopes to the first Lopes in Maderia but I am sure they somehow are related but no records are available that far back or to the researcher I hired. These are my road blocks. Thank you for your time. My web site is " http://home.comcast\~Dplopes and look for the Lopes family. Any input is appreciated. Don L -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:10 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... 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Hi Don, How does one "find out the name of a biological father," I have asked that question for years... I've come to the conclusion that it's an impossible task, of course if the biological father admits to it, and then there's DNA testing... all this is very good if the individuals involved are still alive... Is Francisca your paternal or maternal Great Grandmother? I take it that the family verbal history points to this Antonio Pereira from the Estreito da Calheta as being Rosa's biological father... Did that history also mention other possible offspring for this man? Any mention of his parents, and or other siblings? Maybe members of this list can add their input with suggestions on how to help resolve this situation. Was your genealogy charts prepared by a professional genealogy ? My maternal grandmother's father was the child of "paes incognitos," and I've been told by the now retired director of the Madeira Archives, that there is no way of establishing who the biological parents of my ancestor were... I'm off to check out your website... to be continued: Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:31:02 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat , I have Roza listed in my Family tree (she is my Grandmother) Francisca De Jesus is her mother. The father is unknown but family said he was an Antonio Pereira from Extreito da Calhetta. How does one find that out? Where do you look to link him to the actual birth? I have a web site for the Lopes family if you would like to visit it and give me an opinion of what I have done to date. I am at a loss as to how to link our Andre Lopes to the first Lopes in Maderia but I am sure they somehow are related but no records are available that far back or to the researcher I hired. These are my road blocks. Thank you for your time. My web site is " http://home.comcast\~Dplopes and look for the Lopes family. Any input is appreciated. Don L -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:10 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... 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-----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:10 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, How does one "find out the name of a biological father," I have asked that question for years... I've come to the conclusion that it's an impossible task, of course if the biological father admits to it, and then there's DNA testing... all this is very good if the individuals involved are still alive... Is Francisca your paternal or maternal Great Grandmother? Maternal I take it that the family verbal history points to this Antonio Pereira from the Estreito da Calheta as being Rosa's biological father... Did that history also mention other possible offspring for this man? Any mention of his parents, and or other siblings? No one ever mentioned he had siblings - only that he came from Estreito. Maybe members of this list can add their input with suggestions on how to help resolve this situation. Anything is welcome. Was your genealogy charts prepared by a professional genealogy ? Yes, I list her in the notes. My maternal grandmother's father was the child of "paes incognitos," and I've been told by the now retired director of the Madeira Archives, that there is no way of establishing who the biological parents of my ancestor were... Thanks for your input. I'm off to check out your website... to be continued: Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:31:02 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat , I have Roza listed in my Family tree (she is my Grandmother) Francisca De Jesus is her mother. The father is unknown but family said he was an Antonio Pereira from Extreito da Calhetta. How does one find that out? Where do you look to link him to the actual birth? I have a web site for the Lopes family if you would like to visit it and give me an opinion of what I have done to date. I am at a loss as to how to link our Andre Lopes to the first Lopes in Maderia but I am sure they somehow are related but no records are available that far back or to the researcher I hired. These are my road blocks. Thank you for your time. My web site is " http://home.comcast\~Dplopes and look for the Lopes family. Any input is appreciated. Don L -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:10 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Hi Don, I personally do not have Antonio Pereira from the Estreito daCalheta, married/or not to a Francisca de Jesus, with a daughter Rosa/Roza de Jesus bapt 12 Oct 1897... I did find an entry on ARM Bapt Records for a child Rosa, bapt 12 Oct 1897 father: incognito and mother Francisca de Jesus (no mention of Perpetua)... Is this the entry/family that you're referring to in your posting? How have you linked Francisca and Roza to your lineage? Do you have any other info, ie: as to the names of Francisca's parents. Any other Pereiras in your ancestry? Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <Dplopes@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:56:16 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Pat I have a potential Pereira - Antonio from Estreito da Calheta whom I am trying to find and if he was the father of Roza De Jesus (b 12 Oct 1897) It appears he never married Francisca De Jesus (Perpetua) but fathered the child. Anything would help. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:13 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Surname: Pereira Thank you Melanie... Dear List Members... are you researching any Pereira ancestors/relatives if so, please list some... it's possible that we can find a link... My 6th Great Grandmother was Ana Pereira bapt 3 May 1666 from Estreito da Calheta daughter of Domingos de Agrela and Catarina Pereira (I don't have the names of Catarina's parents). Ana Pereira and Manuel Dias were the parents of (Maria Pereira m. to Jose da Costa, my maternal 5th GGParents.) as well as (Clara Pereira m. to Roque Sardinha, also my paternal 4th GGParents). Other Pereiras in my lines, just to name a few... Joao Alvares Pereira m. Leonor Gomes de Melo Alvaro Pereira m. Maria de Menezes Rui Goncalves Pereira m. Beringeira Nunes Barreto Vasco Pereira m. Isabel de Miranda Diogo Pereira m. Maria de Resende Isabel Pereira m. Goncalo Nunes Barreto Isabel Pereira m. Sebastiao Sardinha Cecilia Pereira m. Domingos Sardinha Francisco Pereira m. Maria Fernandes Francisco Pereira m. Isabel Sardinha Silva Joao Pereira m. Madalena Rodrigues Just let me know if anyone that I've listed may be in your pedigree... I can supply additional info upon request... Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <dartwannabe@shaw.ca> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I did, Pat! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: June-21-11 1:25 PM To: JOSE FERNANDES; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address I received your posting... looks like it may be working once again... Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSE FERNANDES" <jose.fernandes@rogers.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:25:21 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address i am in jos fernandes From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:21:50 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] testing using Yahoo email address Did anyone receive this message? 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