I got it too. I tried to e-mail the person back but it returned undelivered. If it happens again I will just remove them from the list and they can rejoin when their computer is cleaned up. Luis Beal List Administrator "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." Cicero, Roman orator >________________________________ >From: Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:06 AM >Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Strange Email - Luis > > >Luis, > > >I just received an email sent by prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com ... > >The message in the body reads: > >Welcome to your paradise!! >it gives an website address to click on... >  >When I clicked on that website address it took me to an advertisment for a Cana dian Neighbor  Pharmacy. W ith listing after listing for Viagra... > >How is this type of message related to researching our Madeira/Portuguese ancestors!! >  >What is this all about? >  >Pat Corbera > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Tom, I saw a bit of your site at the Tribal Pages.. Congratulations! Big effort and research. If you allow me a suggestion why don't you explore more this line of Bettencourts and Carvalhos Escórcios - you have a chance of linking to medieval times with both. not to mention Portuguese, French, and Scottish royalty. With the Vascocelos you may link to the great warrior and Portuguese hero, Egas Moniz, for instance. Your Freitas perhaps are linked to the first Freitas da Silva, from Santa Cruz . As regards Silvas, as Paulo pointed out, the Silvas in Madeira when they appear early, are probably nobility, from the very old Portuguese nobility. It's a shame that Americans are do lazy and negligent with the spelling of føreing. Frates is a bit of a mosnter derivative. The only redereming part is that Frates, in Latin, means "brother". Otherwise i think the Americanization of names, to sound easy and palatable, is quite pathetic and anhistorical. It destroys the charge of memory and history contained in any given name. Fortunately you have restø®ed your historical name tø its integrity and meaning Meanwhile I enjoyed your description of the work in the sugar plantations of the "Sandwich Islands". It was like a prison, indeed. Prisonners of a Sugar plantation company, all of them, living like convicts half in slavery, or like soldiers of an imperialist army.. Fortunately they managed to escape to California! ,Best wishes, Miguel On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Freitas <family@railsoft.com> wrote: > Actually, her name was Francisca Josefa Bettencourt and was married to > Antonio Carvalho Escorcio July 10, 1755. Her parents were Antonio Espinola > de Carvalho and Isabel de Vasconcelos. > > I found out later from their marriage document that she was born in Porto > da > Cruz. My line follows through her son Manuel Carvalho E Spínola > > > Marriage Document Reads as follows; > > Antonio Carvalho Escorcio, widow of Antonia de Freitas, legitimate son of > Joao Escorcio Carvalho natural of Santa Cruz, and his wife, Dona Izabal > Moniz. Natural of the freguesa of Santa Beatriz de Agua de Pena. Paternal > grandparents are Antonio Mendonca de Carvalho and his wife Dona Beatriz de > Mendonca, naturals of Santa Cruz. Maternal grandparents are Antonio Cardoso > and Dona Maria Moniz naturals of Santa Beatriz. > > Dona Francisca Josefa da Betencourt, filha legitimate of Antonio Espinola > de > Carvalho, natural of Porto da Cruz and his wife Dona Izabel de > Vasconcelos. > Paternal grandparents Joao Baptista Espinola and his wife Dona Catharina de > Betencourt. Maternal grandparents Andre de Freitas Souza natural of the > freguesia de Sao Lourenco de Camacho, and his wife Dona Maria de > Vasconcelos, natural of Porto da Cruz. > > > Tom Freitas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rodrigues > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:48 AM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Bettencourt > > Tom, > I noticed that on your site you have a Josefa Bettencourt born in Portugal > and died in Madeira. Do you know her parents? I have a Josefa Bettencourt > daughter of Francisco Martins and Mariana Bettencourt about the same time > frame. Their children were Escolástica, Sebastião Martins, Josefa de > Bettencourt and João Martins in São Roque. > > > Cheers > > Philip Rodrigues > http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Thomas Freitas <family@railsoft.com> > To: cece@soccer4all.com; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:35:04 AM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family > > Oops, sorry I thought this message was for me... > > Tom Freitas > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cece Camara > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:02 PM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com; bpitta@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family > > Bob, > Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 > MARKER > - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. > I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You > are > the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His > other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, > Beller, > Blayney). > Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) > ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is > your tree online anywhere? > Cece > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cece - My Great-Great-Grandfather, Ignácio, was born in 1810 in Canhas, Madeira to unwed mother Ana Maria, daughter of José da Silva Carpinteiro and Josefa Maria. A year later, Ana married Francisco da Silva Pitta who adopted Ignácio.  Ignácio's children would later use the surname Pita, Pitta of Pitta de Ignácio (now spelled Pita de Inácio). I have 12 marker exact matches to the English names Marriott, Caldabaugh, Woodward and Wright.  But at the 25 marker level, they drop out as matches.  At the 25 marker level your husband comes up as a genetic distance of 2 and at the 37 marker level he appears as a genetic distance of 4. So it appears that about 30 generations ago, or about 840 years (based on 30 years per generation), your husband and I have a common ancestor! We'll have to work on finding out who he was!! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cece Camara" <cece@soccer4all.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com, bpitta@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:01:49 PM Subject: RE: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Bob, Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 MARKER - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You are the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, Beller, Blayney). Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is your tree online anywhere? Cece -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bpitta@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:23 PM To: prt-madeira Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Does anyone have information regarding Antônio Pita de Sá (who married Isabel Lopes Calheiros) and/or his parentage? Thanks, Bob Pitta   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3974 - Release Date: 10/25/11

Actually, her name was Francisca Josefa Bettencourt and was married to Antonio Carvalho Escorcio July 10, 1755. Her parents were Antonio Espinola de Carvalho and Isabel de Vasconcelos. I found out later from their marriage document that she was born in Porto da Cruz. My line follows through her son Manuel Carvalho E Spínola Marriage Document Reads as follows; Antonio Carvalho Escorcio, widow of Antonia de Freitas, legitimate son of Joao Escorcio Carvalho natural of Santa Cruz, and his wife, Dona Izabal Moniz. Natural of the freguesa of Santa Beatriz de Agua de Pena. Paternal grandparents are Antonio Mendonca de Carvalho and his wife Dona Beatriz de Mendonca, naturals of Santa Cruz. Maternal grandparents are Antonio Cardoso and Dona Maria Moniz naturals of Santa Beatriz. Dona Francisca Josefa da Betencourt, filha legitimate of Antonio Espinola de Carvalho, natural of Porto da Cruz and his wife Dona Izabel de Vasconcelos. Paternal grandparents Joao Baptista Espinola and his wife Dona Catharina de Betencourt. Maternal grandparents Andre de Freitas Souza natural of the freguesia de Sao Lourenco de Camacho, and his wife Dona Maria de Vasconcelos, natural of Porto da Cruz. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rodrigues Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:48 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Bettencourt Tom, I noticed that on your site you have a Josefa Bettencourt born in Portugal and died in Madeira. Do you know her parents? I have a Josefa Bettencourt  daughter of Francisco Martins and Mariana Bettencourt  about the same time frame. Their children were  Escolástica, Sebastião Martins, Josefa de Bettencourt and João Martins in São Roque.   Cheers Philip Rodrigues http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: Thomas Freitas <family@railsoft.com> To: cece@soccer4all.com; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:35:04 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Oops, sorry I thought this message was for me... Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cece Camara Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:02 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com; bpitta@comcast.net Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Bob, Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 MARKER - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You are the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, Beller, Blayney). Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is your tree online anywhere? Cece ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, I noticed that on your site you have a Josefa Bettencourt born in Portugal and died in Madeira. Do you know her parents? I have a Josefa Bettencourt  daughter of Francisco Martins and Mariana Bettencourt  about the same time frame. Their children were  Escolástica, Sebastião Martins, Josefa de Bettencourt and João Martins in São Roque.   Cheers Philip Rodrigues http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: Thomas Freitas <family@railsoft.com> To: cece@soccer4all.com; prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:35:04 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Oops, sorry I thought this message was for me... Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cece Camara Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:02 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com; bpitta@comcast.net Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Bob, Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 MARKER - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You are the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, Beller, Blayney). Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is your tree online anywhere? Cece

Oops, sorry I thought this message was for me... Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cece Camara Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:02 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com; bpitta@comcast.net Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Bob, Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 MARKER - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You are the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, Beller, Blayney). Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is your tree online anywhere? Cece -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bpitta@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:23 PM To: prt-madeira Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Does anyone have information regarding Antônio Pita de Sá (who married Isabel Lopes Calheiros) and/or his parentage? Thanks, Bob Pitta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3974 - Release Date: 10/25/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cece, Yes, on tribal pages at http://freitasfamily.tribalpages.com with the password madeira Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cece Camara Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:02 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com; bpitta@comcast.net Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Bob, Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 MARKER - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You are the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, Beller, Blayney). Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is your tree online anywhere? Cece -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bpitta@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:23 PM To: prt-madeira Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Does anyone have information regarding Antônio Pita de Sá (who married Isabel Lopes Calheiros) and/or his parentage? Thanks, Bob Pitta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3974 - Release Date: 10/25/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, Just noticed on the myFTDNA page that you and my husband Ed have a 25 MARKER - GENETIC DISTANCE - 2 Y-DNA match. I recognized your e-mail address and name from the prt-Madeira list. You are the first Portuguese Madeiran surname to have hit that high for him. His other 3 - 25 marker matches have English sounding surnames (Collins, Beller, Blayney). Unfortunately Ed's direct paternal line (which is also my paternal line) ends after just 3 generations as our great grandfather was an orphan... Is your tree online anywhere? Cece -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bpitta@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:23 PM To: prt-madeira Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] de Sá Family Does anyone have information regarding Antônio Pita de Sá (who married Isabel Lopes Calheiros) and/or his parentage? Thanks, Bob Pitta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3974 - Release Date: 10/25/11

Thank you Tom! Pat Papagaia's Journey of Discovery patriciajcorbera.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Freitas" <family@railsoft.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:12:35 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ?    If you go to the old Mormon site and look at any ancestral > record, you will see where is states Submitter(s).  > On the right is a link called Details.  If you click > on Details it shows the persons name, address that > submitted the information.  You CAN NOT click on a > >   >  I do not know if the new site has any of that information > or not! >   >  Tom Freitas >   >  Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> wrote:  >   > What would that "something be that references your > work?"  Like your name or various words like Madeira, > etc.?   >     > Pat   >  > Papagaia's Journey of Discovery   > patriciajcorbera.com   > >       > From: "Thomas Freitas" <family@railsoft.com> >  To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >  Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:25:47 AM >  Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? >   >  You can not access it directly on their website, > but if you select something that has a reference to > my work, the reference number and book name appears. >   >   >  Tom Freitas >   > >  > >  > >  > >  > Tom, >  > >  > >  > >  > Would publlications such as yours be listed somewhere > on LDS website? >  > >  > >  > >  > Pat Silva Corbera >  > >  > >  > Papagaia's Journey of Discovery >  > >  > >  > patriciajcorbera.com >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > ----- Original Message ----- >  > >  > > >  > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >  > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14:06 PM >  > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? >  > >  > Thats a funny story Tom! >  >   >  > we want to see to!!   :) >  >   >  > So much great research between all of you! It should > be a book!! >  >   >  > Regards to all! >  > Robin Telo/Tellis-Pehle >  > >  > >  > I went there once, but only for a day!  It is loaded > with information, but >  > like any research you need to back up whatever > is written with actual >  > documentation.  Some have it and others do not, > but there is a ton on info >  > and documents there.  I found a book there that > had a lot of information all >  > about my maternal family.  When I looked to see > who wrote it, it turned out >  > to be me...  It was my own research, but they put > it in a hardbound cover so >  > I did not recognize my own work, LOL. >  > >  > >  > Tom Freitas >  > >  > >  > -----Original Message----- >  > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com >  > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of deepsea06 >  > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM >  > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >  > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? >  > >  > Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, > Utah and used the LDS >  > libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? >  > >  > >  > Lou  >                ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you go to the old Mormon site and look at any ancestral > record, you will see where is states Submitter(s).  > On the right is a link called Details.  If you click > on Details it shows the persons name, address that > submitted the information.  You CAN NOT click on a > > > I do not know if the new site has any of that information > or not! > > Tom Freitas > > Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> wrote: > > What would that "something be that references your > work?"  Like your name or various words like Madeira, > etc.? >   > Pat > > Papagaia's Journey of Discovery > patriciajcorbera.com > >   > From: "Thomas Freitas" <family@railsoft.com> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:25:47 AM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > You can not access it directly on their website, > but if you select something that has a reference to > my work, the reference number and book name appears. >   > > Tom Freitas > > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > > > Would publlications such as yours be listed somewhere > on LDS website? > > > > > > > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > > Papagaia's Journey of Discovery > > > > > > patriciajcorbera.com > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14:06 PM > > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > > > Thats a funny story Tom! > >   > > we want to see to!!   :) > >   > > So much great research between all of you! It should > be a book!! > >   > > Regards to all! > > Robin Telo/Tellis-Pehle > > > > > > I went there once, but only for a day!  It is loaded > with information, but > > like any research you need to back up whatever > is written with actual > > documentation.  Some have it and others do not, > but there is a ton on info > > and documents there.  I found a book there that > had a lot of information all > > about my maternal family.  When I looked to see > who wrote it, it turned out > > to be me...  It was my own research, but they put > it in a hardbound cover so > > I did not recognize my own work, LOL. > > > > > > Tom Freitas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of deepsea06 > > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM > > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > > > Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, > Utah and used the LDS > > libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? > > > > > > Lou  >    

What would that "something be that references your work?"  Like your name or various words like Madeira, etc.?   Pat Papagaia's Journey of Discovery patriciajcorbera.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Freitas" <family@railsoft.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:25:47 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? You can not access it directly on their website, but if you select something that has a reference to my work, the reference number and book name appears.   Tom Freitas ---- Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > Tom, > > > > Would publlications such as yours be listed somewhere on LDS website? > > > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > Papagaia's Journey of Discovery > > > patriciajcorbera.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robin Tellis" <redrobin_4444@yahoo.com> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14:06 PM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > Thats a funny story Tom! >   > we want to see to!!   :) >   > So much great research between all of you! It should be a book!! >   > Regards to all! > Robin Telo/Tellis-Pehle > > > I went there once, but only for a day!  It is loaded with information, but > like any research you need to back up whatever is written with actual > documentation.  Some have it and others do not, but there is a ton on info > and documents there.  I found a book there that had a lot of information all > about my maternal family.  When I looked to see who wrote it, it turned out > to be me...  It was my own research, but they put it in a hardbound cover so > I did not recognize my own work, LOL. > > > Tom Freitas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deepsea06 > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS > libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? > > > Lou     

You can not access it directly on their website, but if you select something that has a reference to my work, the reference number and book name appears. Tom Freitas ---- Pat Corbera <PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > Tom, > > > > Would publlications such as yours be listed somewhere on LDS website? > > > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > Papagaia's Journey of Discovery > > > patriciajcorbera.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robin Tellis" <redrobin_4444@yahoo.com> > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14:06 PM > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > Thats a funny story Tom! >   > we want to see to!!   :) >   > So much great research between all of you! It should be a book!! >   > Regards to all! > Robin Telo/Tellis-Pehle > > > I went there once, but only for a day!  It is loaded with information, but > like any research you need to back up whatever is written with actual > documentation.  Some have it and others do not, but there is a ton on info > and documents there.  I found a book there that had a lot of information all > about my maternal family.  When I looked to see who wrote it, it turned out > to be me...  It was my own research, but they put it in a hardbound cover so > I did not recognize my own work, LOL. > > > Tom Freitas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deepsea06 > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS > libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? > > > Lou > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, Would publlications such as yours be listed somewhere on LDS website? Pat Silva Corbera Papagaia's Journey of Discovery patriciajcorbera.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Tellis" <redrobin_4444@yahoo.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14:06 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? Thats a funny story Tom!   we want to see to!!   :)   So much great research between all of you! It should be a book!!   Regards to all! Robin Telo/Tellis-Pehle I went there once, but only for a day!  It is loaded with information, but like any research you need to back up whatever is written with actual documentation.  Some have it and others do not, but there is a ton on info and documents there.  I found a book there that had a lot of information all about my maternal family.  When I looked to see who wrote it, it turned out to be me...  It was my own research, but they put it in a hardbound cover so I did not recognize my own work, LOL. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deepsea06 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thats a funny story Tom!   we want to see to!!   :)   So much great research between all of you! It should be a book!!   Regards to all! Robin Telo/Tellis-Pehle I went there once, but only for a day!  It is loaded with information, but like any research you need to back up whatever is written with actual documentation.  Some have it and others do not, but there is a ton on info and documents there.  I found a book there that had a lot of information all about my maternal family.  When I looked to see who wrote it, it turned out to be me...  It was my own research, but they put it in a hardbound cover so I did not recognize my own work, LOL. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deepsea06 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom thanks for the advice. Lou On 10/19/2011 2:16 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: > I went there once, but only for a day! It is loaded with information, but > like any research you need to back up whatever is written with actual > documentation. Some have it and others do not, but there is a ton on info > and documents there. I found a book there that had a lot of information all > about my maternal family. When I looked to see who wrote it, it turned out > to be me... It was my own research, but they put it in a hardbound cover so > I did not recognize my own work, LOL. > > > Tom Freitas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deepsea06 > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > > Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS > libraray? If so was it worth the trip? > > > Lou > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Luis, appreciate the information. On 10/19/2011 2:18 PM, Luis Beal wrote: > I have been there quite a few times. The best part is that you have all the microfilms and books on hand so you can spend a few days going from film to film without paying the $5.50 fee for each since it is free out there. The only thing you pay for are copies. > Was it worth the trip? Well we have family there and since it's a 14 hour car ride for us I just coordinate trips with family events. I know many people that will fly out there for a few days once or twice a year. Depending on how much research you want to do it may be worth your time. > > Luis Beal > > "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." > Cicero, Roman orator > > >> ________________________________ >> From: deepsea06<deepsea06@gmail.com> >> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM >> Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? >> >> Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS >> libraray? If so was it worth the trip? >> >> >> Lou >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS libraray? If so was it worth the trip? Lou

I have been there quite a few times. The best part is that you have all the microfilms and books on hand so you can spend a few days going from film to film without paying the $5.50 fee for each since it is free out there. The only thing you pay for are copies. Was it worth the trip? Well we have family there and since it's a 14 hour car ride for us I just coordinate trips with family events. I know many people that will fly out there for a few days once or twice a year. Depending on how much research you want to do it may be worth your time. Luis Beal "Not to know what happened before we were born is to remain perpetually a child. For what is the worth of a human life unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors." Cicero, Roman orator >________________________________ >From: deepsea06 <deepsea06@gmail.com> >To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM >Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? > >Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS >libraray?  If so was it worth the trip? > > >Lou > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I went there once, but only for a day! It is loaded with information, but like any research you need to back up whatever is written with actual documentation. Some have it and others do not, but there is a ton on info and documents there. I found a book there that had a lot of information all about my maternal family. When I looked to see who wrote it, it turned out to be me... It was my own research, but they put it in a hardbound cover so I did not recognize my own work, LOL. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deepsea06 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:20 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] GROUP ? Has anyone in the group been to Salt Lake City, Utah and used the LDS libraray? If so was it worth the trip? Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You're very Welcome... Papagaia's Journey of Discovery www.patriciajcorbera.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda and Don Johnson" <johnson5026@roadrunner.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:35:50 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Ancestry.com (Luis)/How to Change from Public Tree to Private Tree Thank you so much. Linda -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:33 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Ancestry.com (Luis)/How to Change from Public Tree to Private Tree Hi Linda and Don, Here's how to go from Public to Private on Ancestry.com Log on to ancestry.com Log on to your site Next to your tree name click on Tree Pages >From Tree Pages Click on Tree Settings >From Tree Settings Click on Privacy Settings You now have the option of Clicking on Private Tree to make your tree Private In the Private Tree Box, you also have the option of preventing your tree from being found in the search index... I did not click on that option...I wanted people to be able to contact me, and then I would make the decision whether or not to allow them to view my tree. Note: although your tree will instantly become private, it usually takes about a week or more to be reflected in the search index... ALSO NOTE: If some one contacts you after your tree is a Private Tree and you accept their request to view your tree, be sure to let them only view/contribute information to you via email, and not to be able to "edit/change," any of your tree information. Pat Silva Corbera Tracy CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda and Don Johnson" <johnson5026@roadrunner.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:34:44 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Ancestry.com (Luis) Thank you for your information on ancestry.com. How does one go from public to private? Thank you. Linda -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:09 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Ancestry.com (Luis) Luis, Thank you for your added comments. I phoned and spoke with one of their service reps...and was told that I should read their "disclaimer." When I pointed out that many of the suggestions do not even apply, it was like she was a "broken record," and kept repeating the same phrase of "read the disclaimer, and/or fill out the customer service email form. Well, I did, and it's now over one week still waiting for a reply to my email. I personally think that Ancestry.com is totally aware of what's going on, but for whatever reason do not wish to address the problems. Last evening I did received a reply from a person I had sent a message to, informing her that their linking and dates were incorrect...she said that she was well aware of the errors and was working on trying to correct them...but that her time spent making corrections is limited due to summer vacation and her children being out of school. I wrote back and said when she's ready that I would be more than happy to help her. Hope I do hear from her again, since she's incorrectly linked with my da Silva Se' family. I think that Ancestry.com has become so large and their main concern is not to learn of ways of improving their programs, but to continue to grow, all under the "umbrella," of what's in their "disclaimer," and it's "not their fault." Well, I guess I'm not the only one concerned with their suggestions/linking methods...and some would say if you're not happy with Ancestry.com just pull your pedigree information and cancel your subscription... Pat Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luis Beal" <luisbeal@yahoo.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:56:31 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Ancestry.com Pat Ancestry uses some program that suggests connections between pedigree lines which makes them look linked. I complained to them a few years ago when my line had people in it I had never heard of but they said they are just suggestions and they were not going to change it. I know they do not look like suggestions. Just want you to know that is Ancestry's fault and not the people that posted their pedigree. Luis On Fri Jul 15th, 2011 11:34 PM PDT Pat Corbera wrote: >I have posted a portion of my ancestry on Ancestry.com public family trees - the site name is: (The da Silva Se' Family Tree). > >I have found in the last week or so, that many of the sites that appear on Ancestry.com have incorrectly linked with others. As we know not all da Silva; or de Silva etc. are related. > >Contacting these site owners has gone unanswered...it's very frustrating, to see this and apparently no way to correct these errors...so do be very careful in taking what has been posted on-line as totally factual/gospel. > >Have fun surf'n...I'll try this source for now...but if things do not get better, I'll be back on with TribalPages... > >I know that Scot Austin is pleased with the on-line site that he subscribes to, but I found that site a little too complicated for me...But I'll give it a second look. > >I'm still trying to figure out a way of adding my pedigree information to my own website at patriciajcorbera.com...any suggestions in how to do this would be greatly appreciated... > >Pat Silva Corbera >patriciajcorbera.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message