Jeff, I can't find the search feature. I see a log-in. Does one have to create an account first? David DeGrella ----- Original Message ----- From: JAndrade1 To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff

You did good to get to the doc, since the link looks like it took two lines in the Rootsweb email (the link ends with "offset=3"). You should have downloads it, though, instead of copying it: use the printer icon and then when prompted save it as a pdf or something instead of printing, should give better resolution. That should save it to your desktop (at least on Mac). Yep, that is the marriage doc itself. The gist of it is that on 4/24/1841, Father Filippe de Santiago Lamelino Macedo, curate of the church of Sao Pedro, married Luis Joao Pereira, born in Sao Pedro, legitimate son of Manuel Joao Pereira, born in Faja da Ovelha, and Maria Rita, born in Canico, all living in Sao Pedro, with Maria da Encarnacao, born in Santa Luzia, legitimate daughter of Manuel de Gouveia, dead, born in Santo Antonio da Serra, and Antonia de Jesus, born in Sao Goncalo, all living in Sao Pedro. Witnesses were Nicolau de Freitas and Antonio Nunes. Jeff On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: ------------ Forwarded message ------------ From: lou_henderson@lycos.com Date: Apr 27, 2012 Subject: Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 36 To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Thanks to both of you again...I copied the document , not really clear, but I will try to read it. I have a list of Portugues words to English so will do what I can. I take it the marriage doc. is not be this web site or is that what I am looking at? Thanks again, Lou On Apr 27, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Loija (Miguel de Castro Henriques) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ Hi Phillip it's spellt Loja. Cheers MCH On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Philip Rodrigues <[2]philrod51@yahoo.ca>wrote: > Can anyone help me with this surname Loija. I'm not sure if it spelt > correctly. Am I missing an accent? > I appreciate it. > Cheers > > > > Philip > [3]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [4]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ______________________________________________________________ OK, here's the links you are looking for: [5]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=i tem&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08%2F2%2F130&folha=048v&offset=3 That should bring you right to the page of the doc you want. Jeff On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, If you get the marriage document from the Madeira Archives, that will most likely have both parents and possibly grandparents and others on it. Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [6]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[7]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:39 PM To: [8]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 Tom, again thanks.....Jeff, I went to the web site and then clicked on baptisms and could not get anything to come up....perhaps I just don't know how to navigate the site....I thought perhaps the baptism would have the parents name...especially Maria da Encarmacao.. again thanks to all of you, Lou On Apr 25, 2012, [1][9]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (JAndrade1) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (Philip Rodrigues) ______________________________________________________________ Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [2][10]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?vi ew=f undo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [3][11]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[4][12]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [5][13]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [6][14]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][7][15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][8][16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][9][17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][10][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][11][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][12][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][13][21]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][14][22]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][15][23]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][16][24]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][17][25]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][18][26]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][19][27]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][20][28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][21][29]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][22][30]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][23][31]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][24][32]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][25][33]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][26][34]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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[70][78]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [71][79]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [72][80]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this. Philip [73][81]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <[74][82]JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: [75][83]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [76][84]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?v iew= fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [77][85]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[78][86]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [79][87]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [80][88]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][81][89]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][82][90]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][83][91]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][84][92]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][85][93]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][86][94]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][87][95]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][88][96]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][89][97]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][90][98]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][91][99]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][92][100]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][93][101]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][94][102]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][95][103]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][96][104]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][97][105]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][98][106]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][99][107]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][100][108]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][110][118]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Tom, Is this available online or do I have to send for it? I am somewhat new to this. THanks, Lou On Apr 27, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 (Thomas Freitas) ______________________________________________________________ Lou, If you get the marriage document from the Madeira Archives, that will most likely have both parents and possibly grandparents and others on it. Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:39 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 Tom, again thanks.....Jeff, I went to the web site and then clicked on baptisms and could not get anything to come up....perhaps I just don't know how to navigate the site....I thought perhaps the baptism would have the parents name...especially Maria da Encarmacao.. again thanks to all of you, Lou On Apr 25, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (JAndrade1) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (Philip Rodrigues) ______________________________________________________________ Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [2][5]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?vie w=f undo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [3][6]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[4][7]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [5][8]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [6][9]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][7][10]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][8][11]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][9][12]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][10][13]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][11][14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][12][15]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][13][16]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][14][17]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][15][18]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][16][19]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][17][20]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][18][21]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][19][22]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][20][23]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][21][24]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][22][25]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][23][26]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][24][27]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][25][28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][26][29]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21][27][30]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22][28][31]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23][29][32]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24][30][33]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25][31][34]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26][32][35]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27][33][36]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28][34][37]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][35][38]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][36][39]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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[70][73]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [71][74]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [72][75]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this. Philip [73][76]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <[74][77]JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: [75][78]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [76][79]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?v iew= fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [77][80]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[78][81]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [79][82]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [80][83]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][81][84]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][82][85]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][83][86]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][84][87]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][85][88]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][86][89]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][87][90]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][88][91]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][89][92]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][90][93]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][91][94]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][92][95]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][93][96]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][94][97]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][95][98]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][96][99]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][97][100]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][98][101]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][99][102]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][100][103]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21][101][104]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22][102][105]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23][103][106]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24][104][107]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25][105][108]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26][106][109]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. 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You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][110][113]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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------------ Forwarded message ------------ From: lou_henderson@lycos.com Date: Apr 27, 2012 Subject: Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 36 To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Thanks to both of you again...I copied the document , not really clear, but I will try to read it. I have a list of Portugues words to English so will do what I can. I take it the marriage doc. is not be this web site or is that what I am looking at? Thanks again, Lou On Apr 27, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Loija (Miguel de Castro Henriques) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ Hi Phillip it's spellt Loja. Cheers MCH On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Philip Rodrigues <[2]philrod51@yahoo.ca>wrote: > Can anyone help me with this surname Loija. I'm not sure if it spelt > correctly. Am I missing an accent? > I appreciate it. > Cheers > > > > Philip > [3]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [4]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ______________________________________________________________ OK, here's the links you are looking for: [5]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=i tem&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08%2F2%2F130&folha=048v&offset=3 That should bring you right to the page of the doc you want. Jeff On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, If you get the marriage document from the Madeira Archives, that will most likely have both parents and possibly grandparents and others on it. Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [6]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[7]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:39 PM To: [8]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 Tom, again thanks.....Jeff, I went to the web site and then clicked on baptisms and could not get anything to come up....perhaps I just don't know how to navigate the site....I thought perhaps the baptism would have the parents name...especially Maria da Encarmacao.. again thanks to all of you, Lou On Apr 25, 2012, [1][9]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (JAndrade1) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (Philip Rodrigues) ______________________________________________________________ Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [2][10]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?vi ew=f undo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [3][11]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[4][12]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [5][13]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [6][14]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][7][15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][8][16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][9][17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][10][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][11][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][12][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][13][21]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][14][22]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][15][23]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][16][24]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][17][25]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][18][26]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][19][27]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][20][28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][21][29]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][22][30]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][23][31]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][24][32]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][25][33]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][26][34]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][36][44]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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[70][78]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [71][79]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [72][80]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this. Philip [73][81]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <[74][82]JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: [75][83]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [76][84]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?v iew= fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [77][85]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[78][86]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [79][87]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [80][88]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][81][89]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][82][90]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][83][91]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][84][92]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][85][93]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][86][94]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][87][95]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][88][96]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][89][97]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][90][98]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][91][99]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][92][100]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][93][101]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][94][102]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][95][103]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][96][104]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][97][105]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][98][106]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][99][107]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][100][108]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][110][118]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Phillip it's spellt Loja. Cheers MCH On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Philip Rodrigues <philrod51@yahoo.ca>wrote: > Can anyone help me with this surname Loija. I'm not sure if it spelt > correctly. Am I missing an accent? > I appreciate it. > Cheers > > > > Philip > http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

OK, here's the links you are looking for: http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=item&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08%2F2%2F130&folha=048v&offset=3 That should bring you right to the page of the doc you want. Jeff On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, If you get the marriage document from the Madeira Archives, that will most likely have both parents and possibly grandparents and others on it. Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:39 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 Tom, again thanks.....Jeff, I went to the web site and then clicked on baptisms and could not get anything to come up....perhaps I just don't know how to navigate the site....I thought perhaps the baptism would have the parents name...especially Maria da Encarmacao.. again thanks to all of you, Lou On Apr 25, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (JAndrade1) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (Philip Rodrigues) ______________________________________________________________ Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [2]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=f undo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [3]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[4]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [5]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [6]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][7]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][8]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][9]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][10]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][11]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][12]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][13]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][15]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][16]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][17]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][18]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][19]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][20]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][21]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][22]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][23]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][24]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][25]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][26]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][35]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][36]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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[70]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [71]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [72]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this. Philip [73]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <[74]JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: [75]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [76]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view= fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [77]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[78]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [79]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [80]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][81]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][82]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][83]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][84]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][85]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][86]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][87]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][88]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][89]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][90]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][91]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][92]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][93]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][94]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][95]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][96]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][97]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][98]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][99]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][100]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21][101]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22][102]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23][103]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24][104]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25][105]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26][106]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27][107]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28][108]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][109]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][110]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Lou, If you get the marriage document from the Madeira Archives, that will most likely have both parents and possibly grandparents and others on it. Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:39 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 33 Tom, again thanks.....Jeff, I went to the web site and then clicked on baptisms and could not get anything to come up....perhaps I just don't know how to navigate the site....I thought perhaps the baptism would have the parents name...especially Maria da Encarmacao.. again thanks to all of you, Lou On Apr 25, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (JAndrade1) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (Philip Rodrigues) ______________________________________________________________ Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [2]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=f undo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [3]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[4]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [5]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [6]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][7]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][8]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][9]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][10]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][11]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][12]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][13]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][15]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][16]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][17]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][18]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][19]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][20]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][21]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][22]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][23]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][24]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][25]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][26]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][35]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][36]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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[52]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 15. [53]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com 16. [54]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com 17. [55]mailto:prt-madeira@rootsweb.com 18. [56]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 19. [57]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 20. [58]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 21. [59]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 22. [60]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 23. [61]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 24. [62]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 25. [63]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 26. [64]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 27. [65]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 28. [66]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 29. [67]http://goo.gl/9O9xN 30. [68]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 31. [69]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 32. [70]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [71]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [72]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this. Philip [73]http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <[74]JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: [75]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [76]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view= fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [77]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[78]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [79]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [80]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][81]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][82]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][83]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][84]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][85]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][86]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][87]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][88]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][89]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][90]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][91]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][92]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][93]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][94]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][95]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][96]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][97]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][98]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][99]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][100]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21][101]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22][102]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23][103]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24][104]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25][105]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26][106]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27][107]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28][108]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][109]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][110]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Tom, again thanks.....Jeff, I went to the web site and then clicked on baptisms and could not get anything to come up....perhaps I just don't know how to navigate the site....I thought perhaps the baptism would have the parents name...especially Maria da Encarmacao.. again thanks to all of you, Lou On Apr 25, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (JAndrade1) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 (Philip Rodrigues) ______________________________________________________________ Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to [2]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=f undo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [3]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[4]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [5]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [6]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][7]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][8]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][9]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][10]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][11]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][12]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][13]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][15]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][16]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][17]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][18]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. 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Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][21]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][22]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][23]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][24]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][25]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][26]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][35]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. 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Go to [76]http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view= fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [77]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[78]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: [79]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, [80]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1][81]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2][82]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3][83]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4][84]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5][85]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6][86]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7][87]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8][88]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9][89]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10][90]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11][91]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12][92]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13][93]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14][94]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15][95]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16][96]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17][97]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18][98]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19][99]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20][100]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29][109]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30][110]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Can anyone help me with this surname Loija. I'm not sure if it spelt correctly. Am I missing an accent? I appreciate it. Cheers   Philip http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/

Thanks Jeff I was able to see my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I was not aware of this.   Philip http://rodriguesfamily.tribalpages.com/ ________________________________ From: JAndrade1 <JAndrade1@verizon.net> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos  Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação     Name    Parish          Date                Book  Leaf/Page Carlos     São Pedro  19-02-1861    1365  16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro  25-10-1863  1367  57-57 v.º José        São Pedro  13-01-1850    118    42-42 v.º Jacinto    São Pedro  02-04-1852    118  112 v.º Carolina  São Pedro  31-08-1856    118  273 v.º-274 Maria      São Pedro  08-10-1854    118  203 v.º-204     Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29   On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote:       ______________________________________________________________     Today's Topics:     1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas)     2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas)     3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through     Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello)       ______________________________________________________________     Tom,  no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have     chatted  before.  My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my     grandfathers'     side of the family.  Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of  Prazeres,     Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco.  How did they     come up with     Encarnacao from Agrela or why.     Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother     or other siblings...The one born 1847?     Lou     I would assume that you have their passport information;     Petitioner Luís João Pereira     Spouse **     Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM     Destination Honolulu-Hawai     Year 1878     Box 14     Process Nº 142     Passport Nº 175     Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847     Age (Petitioner) 31     Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira     Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação     Comments Estado civil: solteiro.     Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you     mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My     great  grandmother  had  the  last name of de Agrela, but also used     Encarnação.     Tom Freitas     -----Original Message-----     From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com     [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson     Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM     To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com     Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27     I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical &     Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao     are     the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent     me a     group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her     parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I     have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao.     Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism     from     Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it     the     date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and     Maria     Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find     them     in any census after that, or any information on them.     I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da     Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and     make some sense of this conflicting information.     I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send     a     copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is     any     Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da     Encarnacao in 1887.     I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my     grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to     know     how.     Thanks for all the help to all of you     Lou Henderson     On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote:     ______________________________________________________________     Today's Topics:     1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1)     ______________________________________________________________     You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport     database     on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage.     When did she leave Madeira, roughly?     Did she leave very young, with her parents or later?     Single or married when she left?     How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da     Encarnacao are her parents?     There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com,     so     you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself.     Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of     the     record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country.     Jeff     On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote:     Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro,     Funchal,     Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao     Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria     Pereira     born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother.     Thanks,     Lou     -------------------------------     To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to     [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without     the quotes in the subject and the body of the message     ______________________________________________________________     To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to     [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com.     To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to     [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com.     __________________________________________________________     To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to     [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com     with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the     body     of the     email with no additional text.     References     1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com     2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com     3. 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Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao     are     the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent     me a     group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her     parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I     have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao.     Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism     from     Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it     the     date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and     Maria     Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find     them     in any census after that, or any information on them.     I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da     Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and     make some sense of this conflicting information.     I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send     a     copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is     any     Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da     Encarnacao in 1887.     I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my     grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to     know     how.     Thanks for all the help to all of you     Lou Henderson     On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote:     ______________________________________________________________     Today's Topics:     1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1)     ______________________________________________________________     You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport     database     on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage.     When did she leave Madeira, roughly?     Did she leave very young, with her parents or later?     Single or married when she left?     How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da     Encarnacao are her parents?     There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com,     so     you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself.     Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of     the     record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country.     Jeff     On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote:     Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro,     Funchal,     Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao     Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria     Pereira     born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. 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Hey guys, you know you can see the jpgs of these documents on the Arquivo website, don't you? Go to http://armdigital.arquivo-madeira.org/armdigital/component/armd/?view=fundo&prq=PT-ARM-PFUN08&offset=0 and then look art the Itens Relacionados. They have photographed most of the records for Sao Pedro and Se, but not much of the rest of the parishes. Jeff On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Freitas wrote: Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Other Passports from the same family; Name Spouse Parish Destination Year Book Leaf Carlos Luís Pereira ** São Pedro-RAM Hawai 1883 36 88 Francisco Luís Pereira Eufrásia Pereira São Pedro-RAM São Paulo-BRA 1891 89 84 Luís João Pereira ** São Pedro-RAM Honolulu-Hawai 1878 14 142 I am not sure about Francisco since he did not show up in the baptism, but his mother and father's name are the same as the others along with the Parish. Marriage Record of Francisco and Eufrasia Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Francisco Luís Pereira Eufrásia Ferreira de Abreu Santa Maria Maior 1883 2135 26 v.º Tom Freitas

Lou, All this information is on the Maderia Archive pages, it just takes a little time to figure out how to obtain. Children of Carlos Luís João Pereira and Maria da Encarnação Name Parish Date Book Leaf/Page Carlos São Pedro 19-02-1861 1365 16 v.º-17 Joaquim São Pedro 25-10-1863 1367 57-57 v.º José São Pedro 13-01-1850 118 42-42 v.º Jacinto São Pedro 02-04-1852 118 112 v.º Carolina São Pedro 31-08-1856 118 273 v.º-274 Maria São Pedro 08-10-1854 118 203 v.º-204 Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29 On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][6]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][7]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][8]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [9]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [10]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [11]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [12]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4][21]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][22]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. [23]mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. [24]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. [25]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. [26]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. [27]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [28]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Lou, No, I do not have any of the information, that information was simply pulled off the Madeira Archive website. You would need to order the passport as well as the marriage documents. Tom Freitas

On Apr 20, 2012, prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 2. Re: PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Thomas Freitas) 3. DNA Day is here and Family Tree DNA is having a sale through Sat, April 21st (Cheri Mello) ______________________________________________________________ Tom, no I did not have the passport infor..thanks.....I think we have chatted before. My great grandmother was also an Agrela but on my grandfathers' side of the family. Antonia de Agrela ( b. abt 1850 of Prazeres, Madeira, Portugal. m. 1867 to Antonio Goncalves Lourenco. How did they come up with Encarnacao from Agrela or why. Also do you have any other info on Luis Joao Pereira as perhaps a brother or other siblings...The one born 1847? Lou I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [1]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [3]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][4]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. 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[13]mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [14]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: [15]prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [[16]mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: [17]prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1][18]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][19]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3][20]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: [29]http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [30]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Just a reminder...the Family Tree DNA sale is supposed to end tonight (Saturday, April 21) at 11:59 pm CDT. I don't know that there are any tech people there, waiting for 12 midnight to roll around, so it's better to order earlier. FTDNA also has a "Sizzling Summer Sale" in June or July and their "Holiday Sale" at the end of the year too. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer) On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Cheri Mello <gfscherim@gmail.com> wrote: > Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a > sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on > Saturday April 21st. > > This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. > > New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order > here: > http://goo.gl/9O9xN > > It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like > to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need > to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your > page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then > click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed > in the upgrade section below. > > This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test > your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a > German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your > non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. > > I will be glad to answer DNA questions. > > Here are the sale prices: > > *New Kits* > Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* > Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence > (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * > $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 > *$328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* > Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA > 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence > upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) > $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * > $199* > > -- > Cheri Mello > Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) > Family Tree DNA Administrator > -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) which houses the Madeira DNA project is having a sale. It started at 4pm CDT and will run for 48 hours through 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. This sale is for both new orders and for existing customers. New orders (or kits) for those who have never tested before will order here: http://goo.gl/9O9xN It is also good for those who have tested their DNA before and would like to upgrade or do a Family Finder test. If you have tested, you will need to log into your FTDNA page and look towards the top right corner of your page for the orange button that says "Order An Upgrade." You will then click on the button under "Current Special Offers" to see the prices listed in the upgrade section below. This list is good for ANY DNA test from FTDNA. So if you want to test your German side, you can get these prices too if you order through a German group. If you are having problems finding a group for your non-Portuguese line, I will be glad find one for you. I will be glad to answer DNA questions. Here are the sale prices: *New Kits* Current Group Price *SALE PRICE* Y-DNA 12 $99 *$59* mtDNA $99 *$59* Y-DNA 37 $149 *$129* Y-DNA 67 $238 *$199* Family Finder $289 *$199* mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 *$249* Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 *$118* FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 * $258* FF + mtDNA $339 *$258* FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 *$328* FF + mtDNAPlus $438 * $328* Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 *$657* *Upgrades* Y-DNA 12 $89 *$59* mtDNA add-on $89 *$59* Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 *$69* Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 *$79* Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 *$148* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 *$199* mtFullSequence add-on $289 *$219* Family Finder add-on $289 * $199* -- Cheri Mello Azores DNA Project Admin (willing to help out on any DNA) Family Tree DNA Administrator

Lou, Forgot to send you the marriage information on his parents in Madeira. Marriage Document Husband Wife Parish Year Book Leaf/Page Luís João Pereira Maria da Encarnação São Pedro 1841 130 48 v.º Send for the marriage document and in most cases, you will receive loads of family information. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would assume that you have their passport information; Petitioner Luís João Pereira Spouse ** Parish/Country São Pedro-RAM Destination Honolulu-Hawai Year 1878 Box 14 Process Nº 142 Passport Nº 175 Date of Baptism (Petitioner) 25-04-1847 Age (Petitioner) 31 Father (Petitioner) Luís João Pereira Mother (Petitioner) Maria da Encarnação Comments Estado civil: solteiro. Notice that the above shows the parents of Luis being the names that you mentioned. Also, it is not uncommon for a women to change her name. My great grandmother had the last name of de Agrela, but also used Encarnação. Tom Freitas -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lou Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] PRT-MADEIRA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I received the information I have from the Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society O Hawaii. Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are the withness for my grandmothers marriage in 1904 in Hawaii. They sent me a group sheet with Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao being her parents. Luis Joao Pereira has passport registration 27 May 1878. and I have nothing on Maria da Encarnacao. Now what makes this confusings is: I have a Certificate of Baptism from Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Hamakua Hawaii and it has on it the date of birth of my grandmother and her Parents as Manuel Pereira and Maria Conceicao. I have these two coming to Hawaii in 1883, but cannot find them in any census after that, or any information on them. I figured if I could trace Luis Joao Periera and his wife Maria da Encarnacao back to Portugal I might be able to link the two families and make some sense of this conflicting information. I have a call in to the Catholic Church in Hawaii and I am going to send a copy of the Baptism for them to verify and I am going to ask if there is any Maria Pereira's baptised to the parents of Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao in 1887. I don't think that Luis Joao Periera and Maria da Encarnacao are my grandmothers' parents...but I think they may be related and I want to know how. Thanks for all the help to all of you Lou Henderson On Apr 17, 2012, [1]prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ______________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao (JAndrade1) ______________________________________________________________ You will likely need a bit more information to use the passport database on Arquivo-Madeira.org to determine a lineage. When did she leave Madeira, roughly? Did she leave very young, with her parents or later? Single or married when she left? How do you know that her parents are Luis Joao Pereira and Maria da Encarnacao are her parents? There is a lot on Sao Pedro online at ARMdigital.arquivo-madeira.com, so you can hunt around there and see the actual record itself. Sometimes, there is info in the averbamente that is in the margins of the record, such as death and marriages, even if in a foreign country. Jeff On Apr 15, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lou Henderson wrote: Looking for information on Luis Joao Pereira, born 1847 Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal and his wife Maria da Encarnacao, birth? but from Sao Pedro, Funchal, Maderia, Portugal....Trying to find out if Maria Pereira born 1887 Hawaii was related to them. Maria Pereira is my grand mother. Thanks, Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ To contact the PRT-MADEIRA list administrator, send an email to [3]PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRT-MADEIRA mailing list, send an email to [4]PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. References 1. mailto:prt-madeira-request@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-admin@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com