Thank-you David! I turst you Yuletide will be peaaceful, joyful and blessed with family and friends gathered 'round! All the best in 2006- hope it brings continued love, happiness, good health and exciting breakthroughs in your genealogical search! Melanie Victoria, B.C. -----Original Message----- From: david-nancy.degrella@juno.com [mailto:david-nancy.degrella@juno.com] Sent: December 22, 2005 6:07 PM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRT-MADEIRA] Feliz Natal/Merry Christmas I want to wish everyone happiness and joy during this special time of the year. David Tennessee, USA ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

I want to wish everyone happiness and joy during this special time of the year. David Tennessee, USA

Hello everyone: I am trying to find out anything about a place on Madeira that was called Vale do Formoso. So far I have one positive and two maybe family records that list them living at that place. The family in question (Vieira) had weddings at the church of Santa Luzia (just walking uphill north of Funchal). I would appreciate any info. Thank you Mary da Silva Frost

Hello everyone: Is it just me or is the archive offline again? BTW: Welcome back Paolo. Mary da Silva Frost

It is not just you. Luis Beal tiamaria <tiamaria@frostdesign.com> wrote: Hello everyone: Is it just me or is the archive offline again? BTW: Welcome back Paolo. Mary da Silva Frost ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Paulo it good to have you back I notice you list of family you have a Camacho in Stº António I am doing research on from that village. My grandfather is from there his last name is Camacho. Jose Pereira Camacho. Do you have anything with Pereira Camacho in you line? Bob Camacho searching the islands of Terceira for da Costa, and Evangelho, Graciousa for Reis, and Madeira for Camacho

Paulo, We are glad to hear from you again. That was not us who scared the lady in Estreito da Calheta. We did our filming and asking questions in Arco da Calheta. Hopefully we did not scare anyone there. Everyone there that we talked to went out of their way to make us feel welcome. David and Nancy DeGrella (d' Agrella) Tennessee, USA On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:13:41 +0100 "Paulo Gomes Jardim" <darwin@spamcop.net> writes: > Dear friends, > > I hope everyone of you is ok and well. > I've been away for a while due to some factors, among them email > problems > and job change (I'm now working at Funchal Central Hospital), but I > hope > to be more active in the near future. > I apologize for all the personal emails that were left hanging all > this > time, I hope I'll answer them all shortly, though. > Special excuses to Nancy and David d' Agrella, who I've had the > uttermost > pleasure of knowing here at Funchal last April, I hope to get in > touch > with you again. > > Some short messages, more detailed information will follow: > > Nancy & David d Agrella: I've been in a short hollyday (5 days) in > Jardim > do Mar, where all the Madeiran Jardins came from, and it continues > to be a > delightful spot, despite the recent changes (some would call > progress ;) > ). My parents have met an old ladie on her 80's who still runs a > grocery > as old as herself in Estreito da Calheta, her name being Agrela > Coutinho. > She was still a bit scared about some Americans who had come there > some > time ago, filming and asking a lot of questions! Could it be you? ;) > > Stacy Dean: I've more info in the Fernandes Luís, more details on > this > soon. > > Cece Camara: I can't find your last email about "filha de Foam", can > you > resend it please, if you still have it? > > Pat Corbera: Luís de Melo was trying to get in touch with you some > time > ago, I've gave him your email. > > Denise d' Antona: I've linked your Fernandes Neves to mine, and also > have > more info on the newspaper your grandfather owned. > > > Almost completed lines (and more closely related to me): > > Gomes Perneta (S. Roque, Funchal) > Gomes Jardim (Stº António) > Marques (Lombo dos Aguiares, Stº António, though they came from > Santana) > Andrade (S. Roque) > Fernandes Luís (Stº António) > Fernandes da Silva (Stº António) > Gomes Henriques (Câmara de Lobos) > Alves/Fonseca/Teles (Câmara de Lobos) > Rodrigues Lourenço/Nascimento (S. Pedro-Funchal/Ponta do Pargo) > Fernandes Neves (Stº António) > Cairos (Stº António) > Rodrigues de Gouveia (Stº António) > Fernandes Camacho (Stº António) > Rodrigues de Aguiar (Stº António) > > Currently researching these locations: > > Stº António > Câmara de Lobos (lots of info about these lines) > Estreito de Câmara de Lobos > > Other info of interest: > > The new archive has opened, and the conditions are fantastic, with a > brand > new room with 5 or 6 good microfilm machines, and 4 or 5 new PCs > where you > can consult the Baptisms, Passport and Marriage databases. > You have to pay a fee of 5 euros, and due to conservation measures > you > can't read the actual parish books, only the microfilmed info. In my > > opinion that's just as well. :) > > I've been reading the book "Familias de Gaula", I strongly counsel > it to > everyone doing genealogic research in Madeira. Lots of info on the > families from the East coast and Machico capitany. > > Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book > "Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I > counsel its > purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford > it, > there is an edition online at Nesos.net. > > That's all for now, hope to get in touch soon again. > > Paulo > > -- > " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." > -- > Horacio

Hi Paulo, Welcome Back! We sure missed you! Next time you see Sr. Melo, will you please tell him that I would like to hear from him. Thank You! Pat Silva Corbera Paulo Gomes Jardim <darwin@spamcop.net> wrote: Dear friends, I hope everyone of you is ok and well. I've been away for a while due to some factors, among them email problems and job change (I'm now working at Funchal Central Hospital), but I hope to be more active in the near future. I apologize for all the personal emails that were left hanging all this time, I hope I'll answer them all shortly, though. Special excuses to Nancy and David d' Agrella, who I've had the uttermost pleasure of knowing here at Funchal last April, I hope to get in touch with you again. Some short messages, more detailed information will follow: Nancy & David d Agrella: I've been in a short hollyday (5 days) in Jardim do Mar, where all the Madeiran Jardins came from, and it continues to be a delightful spot, despite the recent changes (some would call progress ;) ). My parents have met an old ladie on her 80's who still runs a grocery as old as herself in Estreito da Calheta, her name being Agrela Coutinho. She was still a bit scared about some Americans who had come there some time ago, filming and asking a lot of questions! Could it be you? ;) Stacy Dean: I've more info in the Fernandes Luís, more details on this soon. Cece Camara: I can't find your last email about "filha de Foam", can you resend it please, if you still have it? Pat Corbera: Luís de Melo was trying to get in touch with you some time ago, I've gave him your email. Denise d' Antona: I've linked your Fernandes Neves to mine, and also have more info on the newspaper your grandfather owned. Almost completed lines (and more closely related to me): Gomes Perneta (S. Roque, Funchal) Gomes Jardim (Stº António) Marques (Lombo dos Aguiares, Stº António, though they came from Santana) Andrade (S. Roque) Fernandes Luís (Stº António) Fernandes da Silva (Stº António) Gomes Henriques (Câmara de Lobos) Alves/Fonseca/Teles (Câmara de Lobos) Rodrigues Lourenço/Nascimento (S. Pedro-Funchal/Ponta do Pargo) Fernandes Neves (Stº António) Cairos (Stº António) Rodrigues de Gouveia (Stº António) Fernandes Camacho (Stº António) Rodrigues de Aguiar (Stº António) Currently researching these locations: Stº António Câmara de Lobos (lots of info about these lines) Estreito de Câmara de Lobos Other info of interest: The new archive has opened, and the conditions are fantastic, with a brand new room with 5 or 6 good microfilm machines, and 4 or 5 new PCs where you can consult the Baptisms, Passport and Marriage databases. You have to pay a fee of 5 euros, and due to conservation measures you can't read the actual parish books, only the microfilmed info. In my opinion that's just as well. :) I've been reading the book "Familias de Gaula", I strongly counsel it to everyone doing genealogic research in Madeira. Lots of info on the families from the East coast and Machico capitany. Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book "Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, there is an edition online at Nesos.net. That's all for now, hope to get in touch soon again. Paulo -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Dear friends, I hope everyone of you is ok and well. I've been away for a while due to some factors, among them email problems and job change (I'm now working at Funchal Central Hospital), but I hope to be more active in the near future. I apologize for all the personal emails that were left hanging all this time, I hope I'll answer them all shortly, though. Special excuses to Nancy and David d' Agrella, who I've had the uttermost pleasure of knowing here at Funchal last April, I hope to get in touch with you again. Some short messages, more detailed information will follow: Nancy & David d Agrella: I've been in a short hollyday (5 days) in Jardim do Mar, where all the Madeiran Jardins came from, and it continues to be a delightful spot, despite the recent changes (some would call progress ;) ). My parents have met an old ladie on her 80's who still runs a grocery as old as herself in Estreito da Calheta, her name being Agrela Coutinho. She was still a bit scared about some Americans who had come there some time ago, filming and asking a lot of questions! Could it be you? ;) Stacy Dean: I've more info in the Fernandes Luís, more details on this soon. Cece Camara: I can't find your last email about "filha de Foam", can you resend it please, if you still have it? Pat Corbera: Luís de Melo was trying to get in touch with you some time ago, I've gave him your email. Denise d' Antona: I've linked your Fernandes Neves to mine, and also have more info on the newspaper your grandfather owned. Almost completed lines (and more closely related to me): Gomes Perneta (S. Roque, Funchal) Gomes Jardim (Stº António) Marques (Lombo dos Aguiares, Stº António, though they came from Santana) Andrade (S. Roque) Fernandes Luís (Stº António) Fernandes da Silva (Stº António) Gomes Henriques (Câmara de Lobos) Alves/Fonseca/Teles (Câmara de Lobos) Rodrigues Lourenço/Nascimento (S. Pedro-Funchal/Ponta do Pargo) Fernandes Neves (Stº António) Cairos (Stº António) Rodrigues de Gouveia (Stº António) Fernandes Camacho (Stº António) Rodrigues de Aguiar (Stº António) Currently researching these locations: Stº António Câmara de Lobos (lots of info about these lines) Estreito de Câmara de Lobos Other info of interest: The new archive has opened, and the conditions are fantastic, with a brand new room with 5 or 6 good microfilm machines, and 4 or 5 new PCs where you can consult the Baptisms, Passport and Marriage databases. You have to pay a fee of 5 euros, and due to conservation measures you can't read the actual parish books, only the microfilmed info. In my opinion that's just as well. :) I've been reading the book "Familias de Gaula", I strongly counsel it to everyone doing genealogic research in Madeira. Lots of info on the families from the East coast and Machico capitany. Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book "Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, there is an edition online at Nesos.net. That's all for now, hope to get in touch soon again. Paulo -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio

Dear friends, I hope everyone of you is ok and well. I've been away for a while due to some factors, among them email problems and job change (I'm now working at Funchal Central Hospital), but I hope to be more active in the near future. I apologize for all the personal emails that were left hanging all this time, I hope I'll answer them all shortly, though. Special excuses to Nancy and David d' Agrella, who I've had the uttermost pleasure of knowing here at Funchal last April, I hope to get in touch with you again. Some short messages, more detailed information will follow: Nancy & David d Agrella: I've been in a short hollyday (5 days) in Jardim do Mar, where all the Madeiran Jardins came from, and it continues to be a delightful spot, despite the recent changes (some would call progress ;) ). My parents have met an old ladie on her 80's who still runs a grocery as old as herself in Estreito da Calheta, her name being Agrela Coutinho. She was still a bit scared about some Americans who had come there some time ago, filming and asking a lot of questions! Could it be you? ;) Stacy Dean: I've more info in the Fernandes Luís, more details on this soon. Cece Camara: I can't find your last email about "filha de Foam", can you resend it please, if you still have it? Pat Corbera: Luís de Melo was trying to get in touch with you some time ago, I've gave him your email. Denise d' Antona: I've linked your Fernandes Neves to mine, and also have more info on the newspaper your grandfather owned. Almost completed lines (and more closely related to me): Gomes Perneta (S. Roque, Funchal) Gomes Jardim (Stº António) Marques (Lombo dos Aguiares, Stº António, though they came from Santana) Andrade (S. Roque) Fernandes Luís (Stº António) Fernandes da Silva (Stº António) Gomes Henriques (Câmara de Lobos) Alves/Fonseca/Teles (Câmara de Lobos) Rodrigues Lourenço/Nascimento (S. Pedro-Funchal/Ponta do Pargo) Fernandes Neves (Stº António) Cairos (Stº António) Rodrigues de Gouveia (Stº António) Fernandes Camacho (Stº António) Rodrigues de Aguiar (Stº António) Currently researching these locations: Stº António Câmara de Lobos (lots of info about these lines) Estreito de Câmara de Lobos Other info of interest: The new archive has opened, and the conditions are fantastic, with a brand new room with 5 or 6 good microfilm machines, and 4 or 5 new PCs where you can consult the Baptisms, Passport and Marriage databases. You have to pay a fee of 5 euros, and due to conservation measures you can't read the actual parish books, only the microfilmed info. In my opinion that's just as well. :) I've been reading the book "Familias de Gaula", I strongly counsel it to everyone doing genealogic research in Madeira. Lots of info on the families from the East coast and Machico capitany. Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book "Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, there is an edition online at Nesos.net. That's all for now, hope to get in touch soon again. Paulo -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio

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OK I finally found it at arquivo...look under Publicações...the second one listed. I still didn't find it at nesos yet... -----Original Message----- From: Cece Camara [mailto:cece@soccer4all.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:11 AM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PRT-MADEIRA] Back to the list >>Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book >>"Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its >>purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, >>there is an edition online at Nesos.net. Welcome back Paulo. Yes it was me who asked about this book. Only problem, now I can't find it on the arquivo site to buy...nor can I find it on Nesos to view...Help! Cece -----Original Message----- From: Paulo Gomes Jardim [mailto:darwin@spamcop.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:27 AM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRT-MADEIRA] Back to the list Dear friends, I hope everyone of you is ok and well. I've been away for a while due to some factors, among them email problems and job change (I'm now working at Funchal Central Hospital), but I hope to be more active in the near future. I apologize for all the personal emails that were left hanging all this time, I hope I'll answer them all shortly, though. Special excuses to Nancy and David d' Agrella, who I've had the uttermost pleasure of knowing here at Funchal last April, I hope to get in touch with you again. Some short messages, more detailed information will follow: Nancy & David d Agrella: I've been in a short hollyday (5 days) in Jardim do Mar, where all the Madeiran Jardins came from, and it continues to be a delightful spot, despite the recent changes (some would call progress ;) ). My parents have met an old ladie on her 80's who still runs a grocery as old as herself in Estreito da Calheta, her name being Agrela Coutinho. She was still a bit scared about some Americans who had come there some time ago, filming and asking a lot of questions! Could it be you? ;) Stacy Dean: I've more info in the Fernandes Luís, more details on this soon. Cece Camara: I can't find your last email about "filha de Foam", can you resend it please, if you still have it? Pat Corbera: Luís de Melo was trying to get in touch with you some time ago, I've gave him your email. Denise d' Antona: I've linked your Fernandes Neves to mine, and also have more info on the newspaper your grandfather owned. Almost completed lines (and more closely related to me): Gomes Perneta (S. Roque, Funchal) Gomes Jardim (Stº António) Marques (Lombo dos Aguiares, Stº António, though they came from Santana) Andrade (S. Roque) Fernandes Luís (Stº António) Fernandes da Silva (Stº António) Gomes Henriques (Câmara de Lobos) Alves/Fonseca/Teles (Câmara de Lobos) Rodrigues Lourenço/Nascimento (S. Pedro-Funchal/Ponta do Pargo) Fernandes Neves (Stº António) Cairos (Stº António) Rodrigues de Gouveia (Stº António) Fernandes Camacho (Stº António) Rodrigues de Aguiar (Stº António) Currently researching these locations: Stº António Câmara de Lobos (lots of info about these lines) Estreito de Câmara de Lobos Other info of interest: The new archive has opened, and the conditions are fantastic, with a brand new room with 5 or 6 good microfilm machines, and 4 or 5 new PCs where you can consult the Baptisms, Passport and Marriage databases. You have to pay a fee of 5 euros, and due to conservation measures you can't read the actual parish books, only the microfilmed info. In my opinion that's just as well. :) I've been reading the book "Familias de Gaula", I strongly counsel it to everyone doing genealogic research in Madeira. Lots of info on the families from the East coast and Machico capitany. Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book "Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, there is an edition online at Nesos.net. That's all for now, hope to get in touch soon again. Paulo -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

>>Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book >>"Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its >>purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, >>there is an edition online at Nesos.net. Welcome back Paulo. Yes it was me who asked about this book. Only problem, now I can't find it on the arquivo site to buy...nor can I find it on Nesos to view...Help! Cece -----Original Message----- From: Paulo Gomes Jardim [mailto:darwin@spamcop.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:27 AM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRT-MADEIRA] Back to the list Dear friends, I hope everyone of you is ok and well. I've been away for a while due to some factors, among them email problems and job change (I'm now working at Funchal Central Hospital), but I hope to be more active in the near future. I apologize for all the personal emails that were left hanging all this time, I hope I'll answer them all shortly, though. Special excuses to Nancy and David d' Agrella, who I've had the uttermost pleasure of knowing here at Funchal last April, I hope to get in touch with you again. Some short messages, more detailed information will follow: Nancy & David d Agrella: I've been in a short hollyday (5 days) in Jardim do Mar, where all the Madeiran Jardins came from, and it continues to be a delightful spot, despite the recent changes (some would call progress ;) ). My parents have met an old ladie on her 80's who still runs a grocery as old as herself in Estreito da Calheta, her name being Agrela Coutinho. She was still a bit scared about some Americans who had come there some time ago, filming and asking a lot of questions! Could it be you? ;) Stacy Dean: I've more info in the Fernandes Luís, more details on this soon. Cece Camara: I can't find your last email about "filha de Foam", can you resend it please, if you still have it? Pat Corbera: Luís de Melo was trying to get in touch with you some time ago, I've gave him your email. Denise d' Antona: I've linked your Fernandes Neves to mine, and also have more info on the newspaper your grandfather owned. Almost completed lines (and more closely related to me): Gomes Perneta (S. Roque, Funchal) Gomes Jardim (Stº António) Marques (Lombo dos Aguiares, Stº António, though they came from Santana) Andrade (S. Roque) Fernandes Luís (Stº António) Fernandes da Silva (Stº António) Gomes Henriques (Câmara de Lobos) Alves/Fonseca/Teles (Câmara de Lobos) Rodrigues Lourenço/Nascimento (S. Pedro-Funchal/Ponta do Pargo) Fernandes Neves (Stº António) Cairos (Stº António) Rodrigues de Gouveia (Stº António) Fernandes Camacho (Stº António) Rodrigues de Aguiar (Stº António) Currently researching these locations: Stº António Câmara de Lobos (lots of info about these lines) Estreito de Câmara de Lobos Other info of interest: The new archive has opened, and the conditions are fantastic, with a brand new room with 5 or 6 good microfilm machines, and 4 or 5 new PCs where you can consult the Baptisms, Passport and Marriage databases. You have to pay a fee of 5 euros, and due to conservation measures you can't read the actual parish books, only the microfilmed info. In my opinion that's just as well. :) I've been reading the book "Familias de Gaula", I strongly counsel it to everyone doing genealogic research in Madeira. Lots of info on the families from the East coast and Machico capitany. Someone, maybe Pat Corbera or Cece Camara, asked me about the book "Arquivo da Familia Ornelas Vasconcelos". I've bought it and I counsel its purchase to everyone related with that family. If you can't afford it, there is an edition online at Nesos.net. That's all for now, hope to get in touch soon again. Paulo -- " Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres." -- Horacio ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

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Thank you David. The two locations that you noted are better than what I had come across on the Internet. I was hoping to find information about the history of this town. I became intrigued by the write up in the Armorial Lusitano for the surname (Corveira), and the mention of Portugal and Spain. but most of all the mention of the surname of Corvera. Corvera is how the spelling of my Hispanic husband's surname (Corbera) appeared on his father's birth record, from Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico. Pat Silva Corbera david-nancy.degrella@juno.com wrote: In case you don't know the exact location of Corveira, here are links to maps that show the location: http://nona.net/features/map/placedetail.750219/ http://www.travelpost.com/EU/Portugal/Vila_Real/Corveira/1233794 Hope this is of some help, David DeGrella Tennessee USA On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Patricia Corbera writes: > Dear List Members, > > I found reference to a Corveira, Portugal, but with no additional > information as to the history of this city/area. Any help with this > subject > matter would be greatly appreciated. > Thank You, > Patricia J. Silva Corbera ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In case you don't know the exact location of Corveira, here are links to maps that show the location: http://nona.net/features/map/placedetail.750219/ http://www.travelpost.com/EU/Portugal/Vila_Real/Corveira/1233794 Hope this is of some help, David DeGrella Tennessee USA On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Patricia Corbera <papagaia2@sbcglobal.net> writes: > Dear List Members, > > I found reference to a Corveira, Portugal, but with no additional > information as to the history of this city/area. Any help with this > subject > matter would be greatly appreciated. > Thank You, > Patricia J. Silva Corbera

Well, where does it tell you that the marriage was performed in that church in Matosinhos? Usually, but not always, you will find the marriage record in the place where the bride was from but sometimes it was where the groom's family was. I see no reason why a girl from Madeira could not get on a ship to Porto and get married. Maybe it was important to them to marry there, who knows maybe his mother was sick and couldn't make the trip to the island. Maybe that is where his parents got married and the tradition continues...There may be plenty of good reasons that you will never find out. The important thing now is if that source where you found out about the marriage taking place in Matosinhos is reliable then yes, that is where you need to be looking for the record. Here is the link to the microfilms from the church of S. Mamede: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=379523&disp=Registros+paroquiais++ Yes, research is like a mysterious puzzle that is why it is so exciting and frustrating at the same time. Good luck, Luis Beal tiamaria <tiamaria@frostdesign.com> wrote: Luis: Thank you so much for the information and the link. So much of this geneology stuff is like solving a mystery or putting together a puzzle. Trial and error and sometimes just sheer luck. One question that will probably never be anwered for me is- should this church be the source of the marriage- how in the world did my G-grandmother from Machico, Madeira wind up getting married to a man from Porto at a church in Matosinhos? I have located her descendants back a few generations and they are all from Machico or the surrounding areas. I could understand Lisboa or Coimbra as the universities there draw from all over. I do not know anything about Matosinhos and I guess it is time to learn. The adventure continues.... Thanks again, Mary ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Luis: Thank you so much for the information and the link. So much of this geneology stuff is like solving a mystery or putting together a puzzle. Trial and error and sometimes just sheer luck. One question that will probably never be anwered for me is- should this church be the source of the marriage- how in the world did my G-grandmother from Machico, Madeira wind up getting married to a man from Porto at a church in Matosinhos? I have located her descendants back a few generations and they are all from Machico or the surrounding areas. I could understand Lisboa or Coimbra as the universities there draw from all over. I do not know anything about Matosinhos and I guess it is time to learn. The adventure continues.... Thanks again, Mary