Hi Mary.... I have the book families from Gaula that you are looking for. If you want, just tell me which families you are looking for and the names and i wil try to have a look over there. at the moment im on holidays out of the country, but will be back home on the 22th and then be able to look out on the book for you...so just let me know Leandro -----Original Message----- From: papagaia2@sbcglobal.net To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] need help with gaula Mary, I was able to obtain a copy of a very old document from the ARM, but could not read one single word, it was written in the very old script. The current director of the archives had it translated for me, so I know that service is available... be sure and ask about the cost before having it done... Not sure if scan items will appear on this list site, but if you wish to scan what you have, and send to me or other memebers we may be able to help you... Pat Silva Corbera "Fernandes, Jose" <jose.fernandes@yrdsb.edu.on.ca> wrote: Mary, I am not sure this is of much help, but I have found that in certain cases the microfilm is not as clear as getting a copy from the Madeira Archives. In addition you can scan it and there is software that cleans it up. Philip R. who is a member of this list can probably give you the name of the software. Have a nice day. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Frost Sent: April 10, 2007 3:25 PM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] need help with gaula Hello everyone: I am currently researching my ancestors in Gaula and have hit a couple of stumbling blocks. I cannot read a few documents that I have seen on microfilm and, so far, have been unsuccessful at obtaining a copy of the "Familias de Gaula". Can someone tell me the parentage of Estevao Pires and Catarina da Mata married 1653 in Gaula? His father appears to be Joao (something) with the mother unclear. Her father appears to be Domingos Goncalves with the mother unclear. Also- the parentage of Cristavao Pires and Isabel Rodrigues married 1588 in Gaula? His parents are unclear, possibly from Santa Cruz, and her parents appear to be Joao Rodrigues and Beatriz Goncalves. I now understand the complaint about early handwriting that looked like a language other than Portuguese! Some of the films from the 1560s are virtually indecipherable! Thank you in advance for any help! Mary da Silva Frost ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Mary, I am not sure this is of much help, but I have found that in certain cases the microfilm is not as clear as getting a copy from the Madeira Archives. In addition you can scan it and there is software that cleans it up. Philip R. who is a member of this list can probably give you the name of the software. Have a nice day. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Frost Sent: April 10, 2007 3:25 PM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] need help with gaula Hello everyone: I am currently researching my ancestors in Gaula and have hit a couple of stumbling blocks. I cannot read a few documents that I have seen on microfilm and, so far, have been unsuccessful at obtaining a copy of the "Familias de Gaula". Can someone tell me the parentage of Estevao Pires and Catarina da Mata married 1653 in Gaula? His father appears to be Joao (something) with the mother unclear. Her father appears to be Domingos Goncalves with the mother unclear. Also- the parentage of Cristavao Pires and Isabel Rodrigues married 1588 in Gaula? His parents are unclear, possibly from Santa Cruz, and her parents appear to be Joao Rodrigues and Beatriz Goncalves. I now understand the complaint about early handwriting that looked like a language other than Portuguese! Some of the films from the 1560s are virtually indecipherable! Thank you in advance for any help! Mary da Silva Frost ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone: I am currently researching my ancestors in Gaula and have hit a couple of stumbling blocks. I cannot read a few documents that I have seen on microfilm and, so far, have been unsuccessful at obtaining a copy of the "Familias de Gaula". Can someone tell me the parentage of Estevao Pires and Catarina da Mata married 1653 in Gaula? His father appears to be Joao (something) with the mother unclear. Her father appears to be Domingos Goncalves with the mother unclear. Also- the parentage of Cristavao Pires and Isabel Rodrigues married 1588 in Gaula? His parents are unclear, possibly from Santa Cruz, and her parents appear to be Joao Rodrigues and Beatriz Goncalves. I now understand the complaint about early handwriting that looked like a language other than Portuguese! Some of the films from the 1560s are virtually indecipherable! Thank you in advance for any help! Mary da Silva Frost

Mary, I was able to obtain a copy of a very old document from the ARM, but could not read one single word, it was written in the very old script. The current director of the archives had it translated for me, so I know that service is available... be sure and ask about the cost before having it done... Not sure if scan items will appear on this list site, but if you wish to scan what you have, and send to me or other memebers we may be able to help you... Pat Silva Corbera "Fernandes, Jose" <jose.fernandes@yrdsb.edu.on.ca> wrote: Mary, I am not sure this is of much help, but I have found that in certain cases the microfilm is not as clear as getting a copy from the Madeira Archives. In addition you can scan it and there is software that cleans it up. Philip R. who is a member of this list can probably give you the name of the software. Have a nice day. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Frost Sent: April 10, 2007 3:25 PM To: PRT-MADEIRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] need help with gaula Hello everyone: I am currently researching my ancestors in Gaula and have hit a couple of stumbling blocks. I cannot read a few documents that I have seen on microfilm and, so far, have been unsuccessful at obtaining a copy of the "Familias de Gaula". Can someone tell me the parentage of Estevao Pires and Catarina da Mata married 1653 in Gaula? His father appears to be Joao (something) with the mother unclear. Her father appears to be Domingos Goncalves with the mother unclear. Also- the parentage of Cristavao Pires and Isabel Rodrigues married 1588 in Gaula? His parents are unclear, possibly from Santa Cruz, and her parents appear to be Joao Rodrigues and Beatriz Goncalves. I now understand the complaint about early handwriting that looked like a language other than Portuguese! Some of the films from the 1560s are virtually indecipherable! Thank you in advance for any help! Mary da Silva Frost ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this web site. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~madeira/PortugueseRoots/default.htm Phil ----- Original Message ---- From: "gregobhte1@aol.com" <gregobhte1@aol.com> To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 1:07:44 PM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Genealogist Hi folks.... Im in a kind of deadend at the moment regarding my family history in Madeira, so anyone here knows a good genealogist that specializes in Madeira genealogy (specially 17th and 16th century??) Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks.... Im in a kind of deadend at the moment regarding my family history in Madeira, so anyone here knows a good genealogist that specializes in Madeira genealogy (specially 17th and 16th century??) Thank you Leandro

the book of FAMILIAS DA MADEIRA E PORTO SANTO by Conego Vaz de Meneses

Hi Scott.... that's great information..thank you. But the challenge is that when i access the web of ARM to look the marriage of Fernao Anes and Ines Afonso, theres nothing there so it makes imposible to find Fernao parents. they are from Ribeira Brava and thei daugther Catarina Vaz married in 1570. So i hope to find some clues in the future :) Thank you Leandro

That's why I started this to maybe assemble the bits and pieces in one place. I will add your information to what I have. What is the source of what you do know? Scot Gregobhte1@aol.com wrote: > Hi Scott.... > > that's great information..thank you. But the challenge is that when i access > the web of ARM to look the marriage of Fernao Anes and Ines Afonso, theres > nothing there so it makes imposible to find Fernao parents. they are from > Ribeira Brava and thei daugther Catarina Vaz married in 1570. > > So i hope to find some clues in the future :) > > Thank you > > Leandro > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Fernandes, Jose wrote: > There is an old story (?) that claims that the first children born in Madeira were named Adam and Eve. Their father was Gonçalo Eanes or Anes or Enes. He had lands in what is today's São Gonçalo on the east side of Funchal. > In the early 16th century there were Anes in Caniço which is not too far from this place. > > José Fernandes > > -----Original Message----- > From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com > Sent: March 31, 2007 2:22 PM > To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? > > Hey folks.... > > Anyone of you know anything about the family ANES in Madeira??? Theres this > guys, FERNAO DE ANES (my 12th great-grandfather) that married INES AFONSO and > are the parents of CATARINA VAZ (all from Ribeira Brava) This Catarina > married in 1570 Sebastiao de Abreu...so it means that Fernao and his wife Ines are > even from earlier dates then 1550.... > > So i was wondering if anyone ever heard about him or anyone else from his > family?? > > Thank you > > Leandro I have started a rudimentary database from historical sources of Madeiran colonists prior to the keeping of patish records hoping to someday bridge the gap to documented Madeirans. In it I show two daughters of John Drummond and Branca Affonco with the name Annes they are Caterina Annes and Izabel Annes Escorcio both born in Santa Cruz about the 1440's. Izabel married Joao Leira. Perhaps Branca was related to the Annes family. Also I have a Rodrigo Annes of Santa Cruz father of Izabel Rodrigues Andrada b abt 1488 both died in Calheta. Izabel married Pedro Berenguer Leminhana of Calheta. Also a Pedro Eannes married Izabel Goncalves dau. of Goncalo Airies Ferreira abt 1460 Scot Austin

There is an old story (?) that claims that the first children born in Madeira were named Adam and Eve. Their father was Gonçalo Eanes or Anes or Enes. He had lands in what is today's São Gonçalo on the east side of Funchal. In the early 16th century there were Anes in Caniço which is not too far from this place. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: March 31, 2007 2:22 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Hey folks.... Anyone of you know anything about the family ANES in Madeira??? Theres this guys, FERNAO DE ANES (my 12th great-grandfather) that married INES AFONSO and are the parents of CATARINA VAZ (all from Ribeira Brava) This Catarina married in 1570 Sebastiao de Abreu...so it means that Fernao and his wife Ines are even from earlier dates then 1550.... So i was wondering if anyone ever heard about him or anyone else from his family?? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary.... i have the book that you are looking for: Familias de Gaula....so if you need me to look anything for you in there just let me know... :) by the way, do you have any of your family tree published in one of those sites like ancestry.com or familytree.com etc??? Im always happy to help if you need something take care Leandro

Good morning Leandro: I have heard of the book but have not seen it. I am in USA and I have not seen it here. I have also unsuccessfully tried to get the book "Familias de Gaula". Sigh... always a struggle but worth the effort. I access the films through a LDS library in my city. It is getting harder and harder to get the films as the delays from order to receipt are now taking multiple months. The main library here will also order the films but the delay also pertains to them. Sorry I could not be of more assistance. Mary -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 5:51 AM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Hi Mary.... I got their names thru the book "FAMILIAS DA MADEIRA E PORTO SANTO" by Vaz de Meneses. Those collections comes in 15 fascicules and that was in his first one on page 21 just in case you have heard about it :) by the way....how and thru what ways are you having access to the microfilms of your families??? im having some access thru the mormon church here in london Anyway, i really appreciate your help. Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary.... I got their names thru the book "FAMILIAS DA MADEIRA E PORTO SANTO" by Vaz de Meneses. Those collections comes in 15 fascicules and that was in his first one on page 21 just in case you have heard about it :) by the way....how and thru what ways are you having access to the microfilms of your families??? im having some access thru the mormon church here in london Anyway, i really appreciate your help. Leandro

I am sorry Leandro- I got excited because I have Enes in my ancestors. I double checked and there is no one with that name combination in that time in Gaula. The earliest records I have seen from Gaula are the 1560s and they are SO hard to read but positively no Fernao Enes/Anes. I don't know how positive you are about the first names you have. After I checked what I had, I looked on the archive data base and I saw a Francisco Anes and Isabel Afonso from Se in Funchal 1547. There is also a Francisco and Catarina from the Se in 1544. The two Fernao de Anes I found married two Marias in the 1574 and a Fernando Anes married Gracia Afonso in Se in Funchal in 1547. Maybe one or more of these will help you. Mary -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:53 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Hi Mary.... Thank you for your comments...but can u see any fernao enes in one of those films around the same time?? Leandro -----Original Message----- From: tiamaria@frostdesign.com To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 7.34PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Leandro: Don't know if there is a connection as the spellings on names can get confusing....there are Enes people on the film I am viewing from Gaula from the same time period. Perhaps someone else knows for sure if Anes and Enes could be considered one and the same name like de Crasto/de Castro. Mary -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:22 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Hey folks.... Anyone of you know anything about the family ANES in Madeira??? Theres this guys, FERNAO DE ANES (my 12th great-grandfather) that married INES AFONSO and are the parents of CATARINA VAZ (all from Ribeira Brava) This Catarina married in 1570 Sebastiao de Abreu...so it means that Fernao and his wife Ines are even from earlier dates then 1550.... So i was wondering if anyone ever heard about him or anyone else from his family?? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary.... Thank you for your comments...but can u see any fernao enes in one of those films around the same time?? Leandro -----Original Message----- From: tiamaria@frostdesign.com To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 7.34PM Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Leandro: Don't know if there is a connection as the spellings on names can get confusing....there are Enes people on the film I am viewing from Gaula from the same time period. Perhaps someone else knows for sure if Anes and Enes could be considered one and the same name like de Crasto/de Castro. Mary -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:22 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Hey folks.... Anyone of you know anything about the family ANES in Madeira??? Theres this guys, FERNAO DE ANES (my 12th great-grandfather) that married INES AFONSO and are the parents of CATARINA VAZ (all from Ribeira Brava) This Catarina married in 1570 Sebastiao de Abreu...so it means that Fernao and his wife Ines are even from earlier dates then 1550.... So i was wondering if anyone ever heard about him or anyone else from his family?? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Leandro: Don't know if there is a connection as the spellings on names can get confusing....there are Enes people on the film I am viewing from Gaula from the same time period. Perhaps someone else knows for sure if Anes and Enes could be considered one and the same name like de Crasto/de Castro. Mary -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gregobhte1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:22 PM To: prt-madeira@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Anyone there can help me??? Hey folks.... Anyone of you know anything about the family ANES in Madeira??? Theres this guys, FERNAO DE ANES (my 12th great-grandfather) that married INES AFONSO and are the parents of CATARINA VAZ (all from Ribeira Brava) This Catarina married in 1570 Sebastiao de Abreu...so it means that Fernao and his wife Ines are even from earlier dates then 1550.... So i was wondering if anyone ever heard about him or anyone else from his family?? Thank you Leandro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey folks.... Anyone of you know anything about the family ANES in Madeira??? Theres this guys, FERNAO DE ANES (my 12th great-grandfather) that married INES AFONSO and are the parents of CATARINA VAZ (all from Ribeira Brava) This Catarina married in 1570 Sebastiao de Abreu...so it means that Fernao and his wife Ines are even from earlier dates then 1550.... So i was wondering if anyone ever heard about him or anyone else from his family?? Thank you Leandro

Hello José Fernandes I just recently found out the Parish is Arco da Calheta for Joao Rodrigues Teixeira born 1895, I only have for Mary J Fernandes, according to Immigations manifest, that she too was from Arco da Calheta, daughter of Antonio Fernandes born 1901. I have nothing about her other than this. Thank You Dan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dan, Do you know from which parish they came from in Madeira? Have you done a search in the Madeiran Archives? José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Danzdriver@aol.com Sent: March 19, 2007 9:15 PM To: PRT-MADEIRA@rootsweb.com Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Teixeira/ Fernandes Just starting to search for my wife's family ancestry :1930 Federal Census has Rodrigue TEIXEIRA, (born in 1896- died 1973) married Mary( born in 1902- died 1974) in 1917 ,immigrated to USA in 1921 from Azores Island .Their first born is Canada 1922, Mary 1923, John Joseph,1924 Carol 1926, and Joseph John in 1928. All these children were born in Massachusetts. Any info about this family would be appreciated I just spent this morning at Library looking for Obits and found that both John R Teixeira and his Wife Mary Fernandes were from Madeira Island Also that he is the son of John and Mary (Gomes) Teixeira and at the time of his death in 1973 he had two sisters and one brother living in Madeira, no names given. He died in Norton, Massachusetts Mary J. (Fernandes) was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs .Antonio Fernandes of Madeira. She died in 1974 in Attleboro, Massachusetts. Any corrections and additional information about these people would be appreciated. I would like to thank you in advance for any help. Dan ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message