Hello Miguel: I am planning a trip to do some research tomorrow. I have made note of a couple of the marriage records we have discussed previously. If the films are still available, I will take another, closer look. Until then- Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro Henriques Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Francisco da Mata Caldeira Hello Mary, Thanks. It does help!. I have a note for Miguel (Martins) and Isabel (Rodrigues). It must be them (Miguel Martins must be from the Martins da Mata). Does Isabel de Freitas' father (Francisco... m. Isabel de Freitas) has more than one name? In the ARM database there are two candidates for this Francisco and Isabel: Francisco Gonçalves Isabel de Freitas Arco da Calheta 1648 1030 16 v.º Francisco Gonçalves Cunha Isabel de Freitas Santa Cruz 1659 836 43 v.º The witness or godfathers: Joseph Telles de Meneses was a famous priest from Gaula and he signed almost every marriage doc. in Gaula. Manuel Barreto, is probably from the Barrtetos de Gaula. Probably connected with the Freitas (from Gaula) as well as the Matas. Cheers, Miguel . On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Mary Frost <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Miguel: > I have some notes on this as well. Too bad they are not mine or I might > have > more. :-) > 1678 878 270 Francisco da Mata Caldeira m Isabel de Freitas. > The record must have been fairly unclear. The things I noted were: > His father Miguel (unclear) and mother Isabel (unclear) deceased, living > in > Lugar de Canico. > Her father Francisco (unclear) and Iseabel de Freitas (deceased) from > Canico. > I am not sure of these two were witnesses or something else but the names > were clear and they signed the document: > Manuel Barreto and Josef Teles de Meneses > > Don't know if this helps at all. > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro > Henriques > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Francisco da Mata Caldeira > > Hello, > > > Anyone has Francisco da Mata Caldeira m. (Gaula, 1678) Isabel de Freitas? > > Thanks in advance for any info. > > > Miguel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

He probably is from the Lucas from S. António. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Fernandes, Jose < [email protected]> wrote: > > SSouza > > It must be a slow day!...But as a follow-up, I have also checked the > Passport data base and I found that a Maria de Jesus, whose mother was Luisa > de Jesus but of unknown father (!) requested a passport in August,1912. She > is from Arco da Calheta and she is 25 and it says she is going to join her > husband. Her husband is Francisco Rodrigues Lucas. His father is Manuel > Rodrigues Lucas and mother is Carolina de Jesus. > Francisco Rodrigues Lucas requests a passport in June 1909. He is 24 and is > married. > Francisco marries Maria in 1908 in estreito da Calheta- Book 7582A, page 9. > > You can request all of these files from the Arquivo. > > All the info seems to make sense. You have a lot to go on. > > Cheers, > José Fernandes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Fernandes, Jose > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Ssouza? > > I was looking in the www.arquivo-madeira.org and I haven't found this > marriage. It probably took place after 1910. However there is a António > Serrão marrying a Luisa de Jesus in 1885- Arco da Calheta. Maria was 25 in > 1912. So these could be her parents. > I suspect that the j. in Maria's name is Jesus. > > There are at least 5 males from Arco identified in the arquivo. I suspect > that they are all related. > > José Fernandes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Mary, Thanks. It does help!. I have a note for Miguel (Martins) and Isabel (Rodrigues). It must be them (Miguel Martins must be from the Martins da Mata). Does Isabel de Freitas' father (Francisco... m. Isabel de Freitas) has more than one name? In the ARM database there are two candidates for this Francisco and Isabel: Francisco Gonçalves Isabel de Freitas Arco da Calheta 1648 1030 16 v.º Francisco Gonçalves Cunha Isabel de Freitas Santa Cruz 1659 836 43 v.º The witness or godfathers: Joseph Telles de Meneses was a famous priest from Gaula and he signed almost every marriage doc. in Gaula. Manuel Barreto, is probably from the Barrtetos de Gaula. Probably connected with the Freitas (from Gaula) as well as the Matas. Cheers, Miguel . On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Mary Frost <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Miguel: > I have some notes on this as well. Too bad they are not mine or I might > have > more. :-) > 1678 878 270 Francisco da Mata Caldeira m Isabel de Freitas. > The record must have been fairly unclear. The things I noted were: > His father Miguel (unclear) and mother Isabel (unclear) deceased, living > in > Lugar de Canico. > Her father Francisco (unclear) and Iseabel de Freitas (deceased) from > Canico. > I am not sure of these two were witnesses or something else but the names > were clear and they signed the document: > Manuel Barreto and Josef Teles de Meneses > > Don't know if this helps at all. > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro > Henriques > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Francisco da Mata Caldeira > > Hello, > > > Anyone has Francisco da Mata Caldeira m. (Gaula, 1678) Isabel de Freitas? > > Thanks in advance for any info. > > > Miguel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Miguel, What about the Lucas from Santo António? My best friend and compadre is José Manuel da Silva Lucas. You might know him, or not, as he was Regional Director and is still in the Madeiran Government. I am close to that family and I knew his dad and mom. José -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro Henriques Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira He probably is from the Lucas from S. António. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Fernandes, Jose < [email protected]> wrote: > > SSouza > > It must be a slow day!...But as a follow-up, I have also checked the > Passport data base and I found that a Maria de Jesus, whose mother was Luisa > de Jesus but of unknown father (!) requested a passport in August,1912. She > is from Arco da Calheta and she is 25 and it says she is going to join her > husband. Her husband is Francisco Rodrigues Lucas. His father is Manuel > Rodrigues Lucas and mother is Carolina de Jesus. > Francisco Rodrigues Lucas requests a passport in June 1909. He is 24 and is > married. > Francisco marries Maria in 1908 in estreito da Calheta- Book 7582A, page 9. > > You can request all of these files from the Arquivo. > > All the info seems to make sense. You have a lot to go on. > > Cheers, > José Fernandes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Fernandes, Jose > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Ssouza? > > I was looking in the www.arquivo-madeira.org and I haven't found this > marriage. It probably took place after 1910. However there is a António > Serrão marrying a Luisa de Jesus in 1885- Arco da Calheta. Maria was 25 in > 1912. So these could be her parents. > I suspect that the j. in Maria's name is Jesus. > > There are at least 5 males from Arco identified in the arquivo. I suspect > that they are all related. > > José Fernandes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SSouza It must be a slow day!...But as a follow-up, I have also checked the Passport data base and I found that a Maria de Jesus, whose mother was Luisa de Jesus but of unknown father (!) requested a passport in August,1912. She is from Arco da Calheta and she is 25 and it says she is going to join her husband. Her husband is Francisco Rodrigues Lucas. His father is Manuel Rodrigues Lucas and mother is Carolina de Jesus. Francisco Rodrigues Lucas requests a passport in June 1909. He is 24 and is married. Francisco marries Maria in 1908 in estreito da Calheta- Book 7582A, page 9. You can request all of these files from the Arquivo. All the info seems to make sense. You have a lot to go on. Cheers, José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fernandes, Jose Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Ssouza? I was looking in the www.arquivo-madeira.org and I haven't found this marriage. It probably took place after 1910. However there is a António Serrão marrying a Luisa de Jesus in 1885- Arco da Calheta. Maria was 25 in 1912. So these could be her parents. I suspect that the j. in Maria's name is Jesus. There are at least 5 males from Arco identified in the arquivo. I suspect that they are all related. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ssouza? I was looking in the www.arquivo-madeira.org and I haven't found this marriage. It probably took place after 1910. However there is a António Serrão marrying a Luisa de Jesus in 1885- Arco da Calheta. Maria was 25 in 1912. So these could be her parents. I suspect that the j. in Maria's name is Jesus. There are at least 5 males from Arco identified in the arquivo. I suspect that they are all related. José Fernandes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected]web.com Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, that's weird too because my grandmother and her little brother Carlos came on the Roma in 1920 as well, arriving on 10/11/1920, my birthday! Jeff On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Mary Frost wrote: Hello Pat: My Grandfather came on the SS Roma in 1920 and my grandmother and my father and uncles came on the SS Canopic in 1921. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Mary, I thought of you when I was typing the name of the ship... didn't your ancestors travel on the Cretic? My maternal grandparents, along with my mom and one uncle sailed to the USA from Madeira on the S.S. Cretic in 1906. I've seen that ship listed many times, wonder how many trips it actually made to the USA carrying our Portuguese ancestors/relatives ? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:36:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ---- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yep, sure is a small world... I'm originally from Fall River too, off Brayton Ave., but my Uncle Manuel P. Castro's mother lived around 590 Columbia St. and got married at Santo Christo Church there. Jeff On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Mary Frost wrote: Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRT-MADEIRA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You're welcome... I looked for an arrival date for your great-grandfather, but didn't find one... it was a quick look, so most likely it's there... What is your name? Are your Souza/Sousa family from Madeira also? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 6:25:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello Pat, Thank you very much! They are my great grandparents. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Corbera" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:18 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ooopppsss I goofed !... my maternal grandparents as well as my mom and uncle sailed on the Canopic in 1906, it was my dad that sailed on the Cretic in 1913... Another "senior moment." ;-). Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 3:30:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello Pat: My Grandfather came on the SS Roma in 1920 and my grandmother and my father and uncles came on the SS Canopic in 1921. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Mary, I thought of you when I was typing the name of the ship... didn't your ancestors travel on the Cretic? My maternal grandparents, along with my mom and one uncle sailed to the USA from Madeira on the S.S. Cretic in 1906. I've seen that ship listed many times, wonder how many trips it actually made to the USA carrying our Portuguese ancestors/relatives ? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:36:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ---- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Anyone has Francisco da Mata Caldeira m. (Gaula, 1678) Isabel de Freitas? Thanks in advance for any info. Miguel

Hello Miguel: I have some notes on this as well. Too bad they are not mine or I might have more. :-) 1678 878 270 Francisco da Mata Caldeira m Isabel de Freitas. The record must have been fairly unclear. The things I noted were: His father Miguel (unclear) and mother Isabel (unclear) deceased, living in Lugar de Canico. Her father Francisco (unclear) and Iseabel de Freitas (deceased) from Canico. I am not sure of these two were witnesses or something else but the names were clear and they signed the document: Manuel Barreto and Josef Teles de Meneses Don't know if this helps at all. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro Henriques Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Francisco da Mata Caldeira Hello, Anyone has Francisco da Mata Caldeira m. (Gaula, 1678) Isabel de Freitas? Thanks in advance for any info. Miguel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, I thought of you when I was typing the name of the ship... didn't your ancestors travel on the Cretic? My maternal grandparents, along with my mom and one uncle sailed to the USA from Madeira on the S.S. Cretic in 1906. I've seen that ship listed many times, wonder how many trips it actually made to the USA carrying our Portuguese ancestors/relatives ? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:36:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ---- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives.

It is a small world Who knows they may have known each other? Not sure how long they lived in Fall River. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:36 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > Small world even in USA. :-) > My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA > in > 1924. > Mary da Silva Frost > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of > Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who > resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Pat, Thank you very much! They are my great grandparents. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Corbera" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:18 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: > Hello ?, > > A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: > > Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port > of Boston. > Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic > Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira > Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. > Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. > > Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, > who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. > > Pat Silva Corbera > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira > > Hello, > I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) > Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village > Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas > I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River > Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their > lives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Pat: My Grandfather came on the SS Roma in 1920 and my grandmother and my father and uncles came on the SS Canopic in 1921. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Mary, I thought of you when I was typing the name of the ship... didn't your ancestors travel on the Cretic? My maternal grandparents, along with my mom and one uncle sailed to the USA from Madeira on the S.S. Cretic in 1906. I've seen that ship listed many times, wonder how many trips it actually made to the USA carrying our Portuguese ancestors/relatives ? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Frost" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:36:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ---- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

check in here: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Gaspar de Moura is on FamilySearch, from the LDS. However Catarina Ruas is said to be Catarina Roaz de Meneses. Now it's possible that Ruas and Roaz can be mistaken or mispelled- But here I go for PA, who was quite erudite and precise. So until proof in contrary for me she is Rua or Ruas. Not Roaz.Miguel http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Cece Camara <[email protected]> wrote: > I've spent the last few days going through this massive undertaking...yet > to > get to Gaspar - but enjoying everything in between! > Just realized I never thanked you for posting the link! > Cece > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel de Castro > Henriques > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Gaspar de Moura > > Cece, > > This interests you and Paulo, I guess. Gapsar de Moura ancestors. > > http://picasaweb.google.pt/cisne888/TomoI_1#slideshow/525861 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this > incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.119/2586 - Release Date: 01/01/10 > 09:20:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Small world even in USA. :-) My father, uncles and grandparents lived at 432 Columbia St Fall River MA in 1924. Mary da Silva Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Corbera Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Re: Posting dated 01/05/2010 Not signed: Hello ?, A quick search of www.Ancestry.com turned up the following: Sailing of S.S. Cretic on Sept 3, 1912 from Sao Miguel Azores to the Port of Boston. Passenger: Maria J Lucas age 25, female, married-wife/domestic Nearest Relative from Madeira is listed as her father: Antonio Pereira Serrao of Arco da Calheta. Maria's place of birth is listed as Madeira, E. Calheta... most likely Estreito da Calheta. Maria J. Lucas coming to USA to be with her husband: Francisco R. Lucas, who resides at 69 Columbia Street Fall River, MA. Pat Silva Corbera ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssouza" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:54:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Lucas/Pereira Hello, I am looking for any information on Francisco Lucas &Maria J. (Pereira) Lucas far as I know born and married in Maderia do not know what village Their daughter was Margaret R. Lucas I believe her middle name was Rodgigues born June 12, 1912 IN Fall River Mass. They lived in Rochester NY and Mass. and R.I. through out their lives. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thomas good afternoon, i hope your holidays were wonderful. All these months later im still stumped on Feliciano Gomes Fernandes death. I know he was born in Madeira in1871, and died in the bay area in 1919. I think it was in santa clara. I went to vital search like you said, but that Gomes is not him. I also looked at the death index, but could not find him. I checked under gomes and fernandes, fernandez. Do you have any other suggestions? Christy J --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Thomas M. Freitas <[email protected]> wrote: From: Thomas M. Freitas <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] (no subject) To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:15 PM Christy, If you click on http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ , it will take you to the main Vital Search website.  Click on California, then be careful not to click on the download detective.  Click on Continue loading the California State Portal.  Now you can click on what you want, in this case death records 1905-2000. The user id for non subsribers is vitalguest and the password is enjoy If you do not subscribe, as I don't, it can take awhile in some cases, but your is fast.  Click on all other searches for 1905-2000. The bottom left side of the screen is a description of what you will be looking at.  Now enter Gomes on the bottom right and press the Begin Search. You will get three listings to choose from, click on the first one.  Now click on the image and go towards the bottom. I believe that this is your Feliciana Gomes who died 08/16/1917 and not 1920 like you stated.  This might be why you could not find a certificate.  At least I think this is her. Tom Freitas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] (no subject) > Hello group, > has anyone come across the names Feliciano Gomes [ bd 1871-1919] Louisa De > jesus [1878-1951] they were from Sao Goncalo Madeira. They went to hawaii > in 1906, then to San fransisco in 1917. Feliciano died in Santa Clara > California in 1919, but i can not find his death certificate. I would > appreciate any suggestions on this. > > Best wishes > Christy > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message