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    1. [PRISONS-UK] England 1901 census. Walton on the Hill Prison.
    2. Ken and Rita Inspire
    3. Hi, My granddad was a guest of His Majesty at the Walton Jail, Liverpool. The census gives his name Thomas Edward Lunt, News Vendor, of own Account. Is there any chance of finding out why he was in Jail and for how long. I am sure he was at sea for the 1911 census but no sign of him anywhere yet. My memory still serves me reasonably well and I can remember my aunty Marjorie saying he was in Canada on an English ship as an Engineer. When the 1911 census was taken. Mind you she wasn’t born till 1915,but some relation had told her. Any help or pointing me in another direction would be much appreciated. Best Regards. Ken Berry

    11/30/2012 03:28:40
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] England 1901 census. Walton on the Hill Prison.
    2. Dudley & Jan
    3. What is his date of birth and where was he born? Janice -----Original Message----- From: Ken and Rita Inspire Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:28 AM To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRISONS-UK] England 1901 census. Walton on the Hill Prison. Hi, My granddad was a guest of His Majesty at the Walton Jail, Liverpool. The census gives his name Thomas Edward Lunt, News Vendor, of own Account. Is there any chance of finding out why he was in Jail and for how long. I am sure he was at sea for the 1911 census but no sign of him anywhere yet. My memory still serves me reasonably well and I can remember my aunty Marjorie saying he was in Canada on an English ship as an Engineer. When the 1911 census was taken. Mind you she wasn’t born till 1915,but some relation had told her. Any help or pointing me in another direction would be much appreciated. Best Regards. Ken Berry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/30/2012 06:58:31
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] Perth Prison
    2. Dudley & Jan
    3. Is this him Euan? 1861 Scotland Census about John Teviotdale Name: John Teviotdale Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agnes Teviotdale Gender: Male Where born: Arbroath, Forfarshire Registration number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil parish: St Vigeans Town: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 5 Ponderlaw Street Occupation: Spirit Dealer ED: 25 Household schedule number: 73 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1861_36 Household Members: Name Age John Teviotdale 36 Agnes Teviotdale 28 Betsy Teviotdale 9 John Teviotdale 4 David Teviotdale 1 Ann Teviotdale 1 Mo Unfortunately, we are unable to display the accompanying images of this census at present, despite extensive negotiation with the General Register Office for Scotland. Permission from them has not, as yet, been forthcoming. For this reason, and to enable you to continue with your family history research, Ancestry has heavily transcribed the Scottish Census records to ensure you have access to all key areas of information contained within this -----Original Message----- From: EUAN TEVIOTDALE Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:18 PM To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] Perth Prison Hi all, Big blunder. I should have stated Perth, Scotland not Australia. Thanks to Dudley and Jan and Mavis for the prompt reply. I am looking for Robert Teviotdale who was sent to Perth, UK for nine months in May 1857 by Arbroath Sheriff court . He may have been sent to prison at other times,but the date I have I just found on Find my Past newspaper site.There may also be some misspelling of the surname.He was born around 1826. Thanks again for your help. Euan. ________________________________ From: EUAN TEVIOTDALE <euan.teviotdale@btopenworld.com> To: "PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com" <PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 19:01 Subject: Perth Prison Hi all, How do I go about finding if there are prisoner records for an ancestor who was in Perth in 1857? Euan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2012 01:54:07
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] Perth Prison
    2. EUAN TEVIOTDALE
    3. Hi all, Big blunder. I should have stated Perth, Scotland not Australia. Thanks to Dudley and Jan and Mavis for the prompt reply. I am looking for Robert Teviotdale  who was sent to Perth, UK for nine months in May 1857 by Arbroath Sheriff court . He may have been sent to prison at other times,but the date I have I just found on Find my Past newspaper site.There may also be some misspelling of the surname.He was born around 1826. Thanks again for your help. Euan. ________________________________ From: EUAN TEVIOTDALE <euan.teviotdale@btopenworld.com> To: "PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com" <PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 19:01 Subject: Perth Prison Hi all, How do I go about finding if there are prisoner records for an ancestor who was in Perth in 1857? Euan.

    11/29/2012 01:18:12
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] Perth Prison
    2. Dudley & Jan
    3. Euan If you put this into your internet search box, or if you want to send me the name with a date of birth and where born? Perth Australia Prisons 1857. Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: EUAN TEVIOTDALE Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:01 PM To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRISONS-UK] Perth Prison Hi all, How do I go about finding if there are prisoner records for an ancestor who was in Perth in 1857? Euan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2012 01:03:14
    1. [PRISONS-UK] Perth Prison
    2. EUAN TEVIOTDALE
    3. Hi all, How do I go about finding if there are prisoner records for an ancestor who was in Perth in 1857? Euan.

    11/29/2012 12:01:07
    1. [PRISONS-UK] Bostal 1881 census
    2. Diane Sowden
    3. Hi there, my name is Diane. How do I find out about the court records for the above prison please, my cousin was in there in 1881 census. Thanks for any answers you may be able to give me. Diane Sent from my iPad

    08/31/2012 01:45:42
    1. [PRISONS-UK] Legal writer
    2. Hi I have a great grandfather [Richard Holbeach Davis]who was employed as a legal writer in the 1851 census at Gloucester county goal. My problem is I cannot find him in any census at that time are these officers or civilian employees? Hoping that some one could help. Chris Brown

    08/02/2011 02:33:24
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4
    2. Stella Hargreaves
    3. Okay, John. Then my original advice still applies...Best of luck with this. ======================================== Message Received: Jul 31 2011, 08:45 AM From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4 Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 (olver john) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:57:32 +0100 From: olver john Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry Stella. Just noticed my big error. John James OLVER was in fact born in 1876 not '96 as I originally posted. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. That makes him 35 not 15. He had two children by then as well. 15 might be young to be a prison officer, but it's mind boggling for a father of two! John On 30 July 2011 08:00, wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 (Stella Hargreaves) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:23:12 +0200 (CEST) > From: Stella Hargreaves > Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <9298509.131541311952992836.JavaMail.www@wwinf3710> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Though I do wonder if he was employed at the prison in some other (more > lowly?) capacity, as 15 seems a young age to be a prison officer, even in > those days...people did often seem to want to embroider their jobs a little > bit for the census, at least, that's what I found with some of my > ancestors...after all, few people had much to do with officialdom in those > days. I don't actually know at what age a man could be a prison officer, but > I've a sneaky feeling that (just as in much later times) ex-servicemen were > given priority...you might find that he was employed in the kitchen or > something. > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Jul 29 2011, 08:47 AM > From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 (Stella Hargreaves) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:30:48 +0200 (CEST) > From: Stella Hargreaves > Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <29846904.17991311849048615.JavaMail.www@wwinf3722> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Jul 27 2011, 08:48 AM > From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John James OLVER Prison Officer (olver john) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:11:30 +0100 > From: olver john > Subject: [PRISONS-UK] John James OLVER Prison Officer > To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > My Gt-Uncle John James OLVER ( born 11 Oct 1896, Bodmin) is shown on the > 1911 U.K census as a prison officer at Shepton Mallet Prison in Somerset. I > was unaware of this and am trying to find out more about him. Is there any > accessible record of prison officers careers that anyone knows of ? > > -- > John Olver > 141 Talbot Road > Brislington > Bristol > BS4 2NU > +44 (0)117 9836638 > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > **************************************** > > Suggestions: Shepton Malletprison may have records. > > The UK home office may have records > > The Public records Office at Kew ditto- and if they don't their ever - > helpful staff will have suggestions for finding out about your prison > officer ancestor. > > Sorry I don't have E mail addresses, but if you google these three I'm sure > you'll easily find them. > > Good luck. > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > **************************************** > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 > **************************************** > -- John Olver 141 Talbot Road Brislington Bristol BS4 2NU +44 (0)117 9836638 ------------------------------ To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4 ****************************************

    07/31/2011 08:24:29
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3
    2. olver john
    3. Sorry Stella. Just noticed my big error. John James OLVER was in fact born in 1876 not '96 as I originally posted. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. That makes him 35 not 15. He had two children by then as well. 15 might be young to be a prison officer, but it's mind boggling for a father of two! John On 30 July 2011 08:00, <prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 (Stella Hargreaves) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:23:12 +0200 (CEST) > From: Stella Hargreaves <stellahargreaves@svezda.fsnet.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <9298509.131541311952992836.JavaMail.www@wwinf3710> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Though I do wonder if he was employed at the prison in some other (more > lowly?) capacity, as 15 seems a young age to be a prison officer, even in > those days...people did often seem to want to embroider their jobs a little > bit for the census, at least, that's what I found with some of my > ancestors...after all, few people had much to do with officialdom in those > days. I don't actually know at what age a man could be a prison officer, but > I've a sneaky feeling that (just as in much later times) ex-servicemen were > given priority...you might find that he was employed in the kitchen or > something. > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Jul 29 2011, 08:47 AM > From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 (Stella Hargreaves) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:30:48 +0200 (CEST) > From: Stella Hargreaves > Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <29846904.17991311849048615.JavaMail.www@wwinf3722> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Jul 27 2011, 08:48 AM > From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John James OLVER Prison Officer (olver john) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:11:30 +0100 > From: olver john > Subject: [PRISONS-UK] John James OLVER Prison Officer > To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > My Gt-Uncle John James OLVER ( born 11 Oct 1896, Bodmin) is shown on the > 1911 U.K census as a prison officer at Shepton Mallet Prison in Somerset. I > was unaware of this and am trying to find out more about him. Is there any > accessible record of prison officers careers that anyone knows of ? > > -- > John Olver > 141 Talbot Road > Brislington > Bristol > BS4 2NU > +44 (0)117 9836638 > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > **************************************** > > Suggestions: Shepton Malletprison may have records. > > The UK home office may have records > > The Public records Office at Kew ditto- and if they don't their ever - > helpful staff will have suggestions for finding out about your prison > officer ancestor. > > Sorry I don't have E mail addresses, but if you google these three I'm sure > you'll easily find them. > > Good luck. > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > **************************************** > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 > **************************************** > -- John Olver 141 Talbot Road Brislington Bristol BS4 2NU +44 (0)117 9836638

    07/30/2011 02:57:32
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2
    2. Stella Hargreaves
    3. Though I do wonder if he was employed at the prison in some other (more lowly?) capacity, as 15 seems a young age to be a prison officer, even in those days...people did often seem to want to embroider their jobs a little bit for the census, at least, that's what I found with some of my ancestors...after all, few people had much to do with officialdom in those days. I don't actually know at what age a man could be a prison officer, but I've a sneaky feeling that (just as in much later times) ex-servicemen were given priority...you might find that he was employed in the kitchen or something. ======================================== Message Received: Jul 29 2011, 08:47 AM From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 Today's Topics: 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 (Stella Hargreaves) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:30:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Stella Hargreaves Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <29846904.17991311849048615.JavaMail.www@wwinf3722> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ======================================== Message Received: Jul 27 2011, 08:48 AM From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. John James OLVER Prison Officer (olver john) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:11:30 +0100 From: olver john Subject: [PRISONS-UK] John James OLVER Prison Officer To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My Gt-Uncle John James OLVER ( born 11 Oct 1896, Bodmin) is shown on the 1911 U.K census as a prison officer at Shepton Mallet Prison in Somerset. I was unaware of this and am trying to find out more about him. Is there any accessible record of prison officers careers that anyone knows of ? -- John Olver 141 Talbot Road Brislington Bristol BS4 2NU +44 (0)117 9836638 ------------------------------ To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 **************************************** Suggestions: Shepton Malletprison may have records. The UK home office may have records The Public records Office at Kew ditto- and if they don't their ever - helpful staff will have suggestions for finding out about your prison officer ancestor. Sorry I don't have E mail addresses, but if you google these three I'm sure you'll easily find them. Good luck. ------------------------------ To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 ****************************************

    07/29/2011 11:23:12
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1
    2. Stella Hargreaves
    3. ======================================== Message Received: Jul 27 2011, 08:48 AM From: prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. John James OLVER Prison Officer (olver john) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:11:30 +0100 From: olver john Subject: [PRISONS-UK] John James OLVER Prison Officer To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My Gt-Uncle John James OLVER ( born 11 Oct 1896, Bodmin) is shown on the 1911 U.K census as a prison officer at Shepton Mallet Prison in Somerset. I was unaware of this and am trying to find out more about him. Is there any accessible record of prison officers careers that anyone knows of ? -- John Olver 141 Talbot Road Brislington Bristol BS4 2NU +44 (0)117 9836638 ------------------------------ To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 **************************************** Suggestions: Shepton Malletprison may have records. The UK home office may have records The Public records Office at Kew ditto- and if they don't their ever - helpful staff will have suggestions for finding out about your prison officer ancestor. Sorry I don't have E mail addresses, but if you google these three I'm sure you'll easily find them. Good luck.

    07/28/2011 06:30:48
    1. [PRISONS-UK] John James OLVER Prison Officer
    2. olver john
    3. My Gt-Uncle John James OLVER ( born 11 Oct 1896, Bodmin) is shown on the 1911 U.K census as a prison officer at Shepton Mallet Prison in Somerset. I was unaware of this and am trying to find out more about him. Is there any accessible record of prison officers careers that anyone knows of ? -- John Olver 141 Talbot Road Brislington Bristol BS4 2NU +44 (0)117 9836638

    07/26/2011 01:11:30
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 8
    2. stella Hargreaves
    3. Dear Carol, Have you considered E mailing or writing to the library service in Leeds? I don't know their postcode, but if you send it for the attention of the librarian, centrql library Leeds, Yorks. I think it will get there okay. I've always found the library service very helpful. he/she may be able to unearth more info.for you, from contemporary sources, or tell you who to approach. My other suggestion is to contact YorksGen, who were incredibly kind when I was seeking a gt grandad; we never did find him, as he proved to have been illegitimate. But members of Yorksgen looked in about 10 places for me!Some of their members are very knowledgeable. I wonder if your ancestor was a hand loom weaver, or the child of one? As you probably know, there were a lot of attacks on mills and mill machinery by hand loom weavers who thrown out of work by the mills. I hope you find him. Best wishes, Stella Hargreaves ---- Original Message ----- From: <prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com> To: <prisons-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:01 AM Subject: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 8 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Correction: James HARLING 1883 (Janet O'Carroll) > 2. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 7 (Garry Morton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:23:36 +1200 > From: "Janet O'Carroll" <jocarroll@clear.net.nz> > Subject: [PRISONS-UK] Correction: James HARLING 1883 > To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000501cb57cb$9349b550$977865da@TLJOCARROLL> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My apologies. I gave the incorrect date in my last message. It should > have > read 1883. > > > > On 18th April 1883 James HARLING (born 1839 in Priest Hutton, Westmorland) > was sentenced to 10 years' penal servitude for arson of a mill. His trial > was held in Leeds Town Hall, West Yorkshire. Please can anyone tell me > where he served his sentence? I have not been able to find him in the > 1991 > census. > > > > I should appreciate any information. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Janet O'Carroll > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:42:05 +0100 > From: Garry Morton <garryoke@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 7 > To: prisons-uk@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTing_mBbhjDrBgJ0Zy-_cJ6iBr+DWc_p=4zWmAFZ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Please can you remove me from this mailing list > > Garry > > On 19 September 2010 08:01, <prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. James HARLING 1853 (Janet O'Carroll) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:26:31 +1200 >> From: "Janet O'Carroll" <jocarroll@clear.net.nz> >> Subject: [PRISONS-UK] James HARLING 1853 >> To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <000001cb57aa$75a51100$ac83a7cb@TLJOCARROLL> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> On 18th April 1853 James HARLING (born 1839 in Priest Hutton, >> Westmorland) >> was sentenced to 10 years' penal servitude for arson of a mill. His >> trial >> was held in Leeds Town Hall, West Yorkshire. Please can anyone tell me >> where he served his sentence? I have not been able to find him in the >> 1991 >> census. >> >> I should appreciate any information. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Janet O'Carroll >> >> (New Zealand) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to >> PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to >> PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 7 >> **************************************** >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 8 > **************************************** >

    09/20/2010 06:07:35
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] James HARLING 1853
    2. sharon floate
    3. Hi Janet Often prisoners weren't listed in census returns under their full names, just their initials. So you could try searching by that. If you're using a site like Ancestry, you could also leave out the name altogether and just use 'Prisoner'as your search term to see what comes up. Wakefield Prison in West Yorkshire is one possibility for where James was held. Best wishes Sharon On 19/09/2010 04:26, "Janet O'Carroll" <jocarroll@clear.net.nz> wrote: > On 18th April 1853 James HARLING (born 1839 in Priest Hutton, Westmorland) > was sentenced to 10 years' penal servitude for arson of a mill. His trial > was held in Leeds Town Hall, West Yorkshire. Please can anyone tell me > where he served his sentence? I have not been able to find him in the 1991 > census. > > I should appreciate any information. > > > > Regards, > > Janet O'Carroll > > (New Zealand) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2010 06:38:48
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 7
    2. Garry Morton
    3. Please can you remove me from this mailing list Garry On 19 September 2010 08:01, <prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. James HARLING 1853 (Janet O'Carroll) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:26:31 +1200 > From: "Janet O'Carroll" <jocarroll@clear.net.nz> > Subject: [PRISONS-UK] James HARLING 1853 > To: PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000001cb57aa$75a51100$ac83a7cb@TLJOCARROLL> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On 18th April 1853 James HARLING (born 1839 in Priest Hutton, Westmorland) > was sentenced to 10 years' penal servitude for arson of a mill. His trial > was held in Leeds Town Hall, West Yorkshire. Please can anyone tell me > where he served his sentence? I have not been able to find him in the 1991 > census. > > I should appreciate any information. > > > > Regards, > > Janet O'Carroll > > (New Zealand) > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 7 > **************************************** >

    09/19/2010 02:42:05
    1. [PRISONS-UK] Correction: James HARLING 1883
    2. Janet O'Carroll
    3. My apologies. I gave the incorrect date in my last message. It should have read 1883. On 18th April 1883 James HARLING (born 1839 in Priest Hutton, Westmorland) was sentenced to 10 years' penal servitude for arson of a mill. His trial was held in Leeds Town Hall, West Yorkshire. Please can anyone tell me where he served his sentence? I have not been able to find him in the 1991 census. I should appreciate any information. Regards, Janet O'Carroll

    09/19/2010 01:23:36
    1. [PRISONS-UK] James HARLING 1853
    2. Janet O'Carroll
    3. On 18th April 1853 James HARLING (born 1839 in Priest Hutton, Westmorland) was sentenced to 10 years' penal servitude for arson of a mill. His trial was held in Leeds Town Hall, West Yorkshire. Please can anyone tell me where he served his sentence? I have not been able to find him in the 1991 census. I should appreciate any information. Regards, Janet O'Carroll (New Zealand)

    09/19/2010 09:26:31
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 5
    2. Garry Morton
    3. Please can you remove me from the group/list please. Garry On 15 August 2010 08:01, <prisons-uk-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 (Marilyn Fullam) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:56:13 -0700 > From: "Marilyn Fullam" <anchntr@mlode.com> > Subject: Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 > To: <prisons-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <9C0E308BD0DF45B391F994E352457837@pavilion> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > County Galway probably had a newspaper then and his trial might might have > been covered. > > My ancestor went to trial in 1867 in County Cork. Big write up in the > newspaper. Full of information. > > Good luck, > Marilyn > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PRISONS-UK list administrator, send an email to > PRISONS-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRISONS-UK mailing list, send an email to > PRISONS-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRISONS-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 5 > **************************************** >

    08/15/2010 02:20:14
    1. Re: [PRISONS-UK] PRISONS-UK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4
    2. Marilyn Fullam
    3. County Galway probably had a newspaper then and his trial might might have been covered. My ancestor went to trial in 1867 in County Cork. Big write up in the newspaper. Full of information. Good luck, Marilyn

    08/14/2010 12:56:13