Hello all, As in all research, we all get to stumbling blocks. Thus the various groups. There can be as many groups as there are stumbling blocks. These are the hurdles that we must all get past to link the various groups together. We are all in the same boat. My block is Abel died 1819 Alabama and wife Sarah [Sweeten?]. Much is known about him but we do not know his father. We may never know. DNA gives some indication which is kind of what we thought but that group's progenitor is actually younger than mine so it wouldn't really get us any further back, at this time. Come join the search. The Association is not meant to give any absolutes but it does give a journal for you to see what has and will be accomplished. There are clues within that we all use to further our own research. At this point, I satisfy my own curiosity with linking up the descendants while continuing the search for ancestors. Hope this helps. Consider printing your query in the journal. It goes to libraries and membership that does not have computer access (yes there are still many of those out there). As in all research, there are mistakes made. We all try to correct those mistakes as we find them. Shirley Erickson (group 11)