Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly impossible to accomplish. What I have is this: * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. Penington, Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and submitted to PRA. * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the "Mumma" family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it and getting the burial cards from Greenmount. * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. * I joined PRA as a member. * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore Penington family. I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to work with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. Cher At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer >ability can also enjoy. > >Shirley Erickson >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave >cards. > > Cher > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in >MD > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA >list > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor >makes > > >everyone's tree grow like > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you >find > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area >for > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go >back > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married >inlaws. > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record >you > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > >cousins. > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we >will > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your >cousins, > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't >forgot > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send >attachments > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > >ARD, Family Groups > > >PRA - Group 9 > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does >not > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > >well > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been >left > > >out > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a >connection > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it >anticlimatic > > >for > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change >in > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of >ALL > > >the > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access >planned, > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it >was > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA >groups. > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines >and > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA >and > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, >and > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any >way. > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here >on > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, >but > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a >group, > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership >in > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great >deal of > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run >by > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd >suggest > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who >are > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some >of > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as >I > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of >data > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us >know > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? >Marriage > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to >help if > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try >to > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family >history > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're >expecting > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > For help with your research, go to > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > click on Research Tips. > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean.

Dear Cher, I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will certainly try. First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send the material via email to her or by snail mail. All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various places and hosted by various members. You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to further the research. Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group 14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both families to figure out which way to go. I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to respond as well with suggestions. Regards, Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still looking for his parents) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > impossible to accomplish. > > What I have is this: > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. Penington, > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > submitted to PRA. > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the "Mumma" > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it and > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > * I joined PRA as a member. > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > Penington family. > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to work > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > Cher > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > >ability can also enjoy. > > > >Shirley Erickson > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > >cards. > > > Cher > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in > >MD > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA > >list > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > >makes > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > >find > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area > >for > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go > >back > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > >inlaws. > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record > >you > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > > >cousins. > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we > >will > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > >cousins, > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > >forgot > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > >attachments > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does > >not > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > > >well > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > >left > > > >out > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > >connection > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > >anticlimatic > > > >for > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change > >in > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of > >ALL > > > >the > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > >planned, > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it > >was > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > >groups. > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines > >and > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA > >and > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, > >and > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here > >on > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, > >but > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a > >group, > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership > >in > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > >deal of > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run > >by > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > >suggest > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who > >are > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some > >of > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as > >I > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of > >data > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us > >know > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > >Marriage > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > >help if > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try > >to > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > >history > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > >expecting > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > For help with your research, go to > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org >

What do you have to be to be a member of the PRA??? I recieved the magazine, but I was paying for it. I like others did not every find anyone else researching my line (Greenberry and Letitia Robbins Pennington) Thanks guys and gals for all of your help tho. Barbara in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Erickson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Dear Cher, > > I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will > certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure > others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via > this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to > the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please > forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will > certainly try. > > First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice > yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully > further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research > Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back > copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association > website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of > some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues > to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented > and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She > relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. > The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send > the material via email to her or by snail mail. > > All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is > made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and > maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where > many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's > reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established > Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper > Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various > places and hosted by various members. > > You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching > somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information > and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me > of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the > normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that > everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting > courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to > further the research. > > Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington > family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've > seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. > The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in > Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group > 14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have > other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is > another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both > families to figure out which way to go. > > I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to > be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the > memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work > on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to > respond as well with suggestions. > > Regards, > Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still > looking for his parents) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > What I have is this: > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. > Penington, > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > submitted to PRA. > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the > "Mumma" > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it > and > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > Penington family. > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to > work > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington > Greenmount > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the > new > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > >cards. > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how > many > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was > just > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will > probated in > > >MD > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the > PRA > > >list > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in > the > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > > >makes > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone > tracking > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > > >find > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same > area > > >for > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and > go > > >back > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing > family > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > >inlaws. > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what > record > > >you > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep > searching > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find > your > > > > >cousins. > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files > we > > >will > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter > time > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > >cousins, > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > > >forgot > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post > the > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > >attachments > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for > the > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but > does > > >not > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is > all > > > > >well > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group > isn't > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA > has > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of > active > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > > >left > > > > >out > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > >connection > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, > frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > >anticlimatic > > > > >for > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming > change > > >in > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up > of > > >ALL > > > > >the > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > > >planned, > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome > and it > > >was > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will > become > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect > to a > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership > will be > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and > that > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > >groups. > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different > lines > > >and > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of > PRA > > >and > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, > 7, > > >and > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in > any > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found > here > > >on > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big > ocean, > > >but > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a > step > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of > our > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start > a > > >group, > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, > membership > > >in > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > > >deal of > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and > run > > >by > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > >suggest > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you > just > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, > who > > >are > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly > some > > >of > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there > is > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as > much as > > >I > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have > been > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources > of > > >data > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let > us > > >know > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > >Marriage > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > > >help if > > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. > Try > > >to > > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > > >history > > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > > >expecting > > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html > or > > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > For help with your research, go to > > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org

Hi, Barbara Where did Letitia Robbins Pennington live? I have some information on the Robbins/Pennington's of SC somewhere in my archives. It would take me some time to look it up. It is probably saved to a floppy. If you think it would be helpful, please let me know. My Pennington connection is a brick wall - Ruth Pennington, who married Henry Lamb in NC. They moved to Floyd Co., IN in 1815. Ruth's parentage has never been proven by the family researchers with whom I am in touch. She was said to be the daughter of Levi Pennington, but I cannot establish that connection. A theory is that she was perhaps an orphan who was taken in by someone else. Virginia Morris Brown [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.

Hi Barbara, I found the PRA over 3 years ago and very glad I did. At that time we were having growing and organization issues. * We were trying to fix an outdated (over 30 years old) (JFMF) Family Master file. A system that was not compatible with other software; Extremely difficult to enter family gedcoms and was being performed by ONE - ONE PERSON ! An unbelievebale task for one person - THANK YOU, CARMEN FOR THE PAST YEARS OF TORTURE TYPING. People who submitted material on their family had a long wait to see that material published and when they sent the material, there were no sources because either they did not know how to include them when the file was sent or didn't want to share their sources. Hence, the Master File is getting a overhaul (not really overhauled - let's just say a 'make-over'. In the last year, the decision was made "not to try to fix a stripped bolt." We needed another way to perform the updates to our family files and the MyFamily website was born. (DONE) :>) * We needed to find a way to share new information in timely manner with our members. With information moving at the speed of light this was not easy because some were new to computers, some were new to genealogy. Every one of our Group Leaders, Board and Officers have got involved in this endeavor. We have worked long and hard to work with these individuals on a personal level to get them headed in the right direction both with computer skills and genealogy. (DONE) :>) Gene worked long and hard on this project and has done a remarkable job in it's creation for our members. The new website will have the capacity for chatting on line - meetings- education class on-line if requested, pictures of family, especially those new additions (babies) and it is secure for members. The cutiest thing is - when the Group Leaders make changes/additions on the group file - our members are notified and can download the progress. That means we don't have to check the website everyday. Isn't that cute ??!!! The decision was made to allow our each of our Group Leaders to keep their PRA family files updated instead of one person. Once we open the new website - family information will be entered quicker (as soon as we catch up with our old information). I, myself have probably 100 pages of things to add to my PRA Family 9 file and that does not count what I have recently found in the past 6 months. So, our Group Leaders will be busy for a while getting caught up. (DONE) :>) * Our new editor, Barrie Petty has brought our Pennington Pedigree publication into the new age. It's bigger, better and much easier to get our information published in a shorter amount of time. (DONE) :>) * We have taken better measures to protect privacy rights and copyrights. DONE ;>) * In the recent past, our Group Leaders took a great deal of time (weeks, sometimes months) preparing reports, gedcoms, etc on our family files for submission to the Baord for approval and to be included in our PRA Master File. Now, the only time we have to ask for permission is for the merging of famly groups and to start a 'new' family group. This step allowed our Group Leaders more time to devote to their members, for the mailing list and has cut our work load in half. (DONE) :>) * New Gift Shop, Tax-exempt status! Board Meeting on-line so we don't have to wait a year to get something done. The New Pennington Archives at Earlham College established so all of member's hard work will not be lost and in one place. Oh my, we really have accomplished alot the past two years. I could probably go on but I don't want you to be too tired to read your "other mail". Thanks for listening and posting. Everyone - have a good week. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > What do you have to be to be a member of the PRA??? I recieved the > magazine, but I was paying for it. I like others did not every find anyone > else researching my line (Greenberry and Letitia Robbins Pennington) > > Thanks guys and gals for all of your help tho. > > Barbara in OK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Erickson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Dear Cher, > > > > I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I > will > > certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure > > others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via > > this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to > > the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please > > forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I > will > > certainly try. > > > > First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published > twice > > yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully > > further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research > > Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order > back > > copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the > association > > website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of > > some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues > > to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented > > and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. > She > > relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these > publications. > > The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even > send > > the material via email to her or by snail mail. > > > > All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is > > made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and > > maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where > > many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's > > reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established > > Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. > Jasper > > Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various > > places and hosted by various members. > > > > You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching > > somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the > information > > and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me > > of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the > > normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted > that > > everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting > > courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed > to > > further the research. > > > > Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington > > family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that > I've > > seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. > > The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in > > Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group > > 14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may > have > > other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is > > another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both > > families to figure out which way to go. > > > > I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need > to > > be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the > > memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work > > on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to > > respond as well with suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still > > looking for his parents) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be > happy > > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > > > What I have is this: > > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. > > Penington, > > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > > submitted to PRA. > > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the > > "Mumma" > > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it > > and > > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have > plotted > > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they > do > > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > > Penington family. > > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to > > work > > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily > provide > > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed > in > > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington > > Greenmount > > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on > the > > new > > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > > >cards. > > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how > > many > > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was > > just > > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will > > probated in > > > >MD > > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the > > PRA > > > >list > > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group > in > > the > > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common > ancestor > > > >makes > > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone > > tracking > > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If > you > > > >find > > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same > > area > > > >for > > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and > > go > > > >back > > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing > > family > > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > > >inlaws. > > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what > > record > > > >you > > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep > > searching > > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find > > your > > > > > >cousins. > > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family > files > > we > > > >will > > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter > > time > > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > > >cousins, > > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I > haven't > > > >forgot > > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot > of > > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post > > the > > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > > >attachments > > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information > for > > the > > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family > groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented > but > > does > > > >not > > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It > is > > all > > > > > >well > > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group > > isn't > > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of > PRA > > has > > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of > > active > > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have > been > > > >left > > > > > >out > > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > > >connection > > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, > > frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > > >anticlimatic > > > > > >for > > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming > > change > > > >in > > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up > > of > > > >ALL > > > > > >the > > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web > access > > > >planned, > > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome > > and it > > > >was > > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will > > become > > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect > > to a > > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership > > will be > > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, > and > > that > > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > > >groups. > > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different > > lines > > > >and > > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of > > PRA > > > >and > > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups > 12, > > 7, > > > >and > > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory > in > > any > > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found > > here > > > >on > > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big > > ocean, > > > >but > > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a > > step > > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many > of > > our > > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to > start > > a > > > >group, > > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, > > membership > > > >in > > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a > great > > > >deal of > > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with > others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and > > run > > > >by > > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > > >suggest > > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as > you > > just > > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great > Britain, > > who > > > >are > > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly > > some > > > >of > > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since > there > > is > > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as > > much as > > > >I > > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you > have > > been > > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many > sources > > of > > > >data > > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. > Let > > us > > > >know > > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > > >Marriage > > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like > to > > > >help if > > > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven > accurate. > > Try > > > >to > > > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and > family > > > >history > > > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > > > >expecting > > > > > > > >For addition virus info see > http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html > > or > > > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > > For help with your research, go to > > > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. 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Hi. Shirley. Okey Dokey....let's keep going and maybe this is going to get through my thick skull. I think I joined after the mailing of the Pennington Pedigree so that is probably why I had no idea what was going on. Taking my issues one by one: 1. I will send my research to Barrie Petty so that it can be circulated to the non-computer users. I do realize that there are tons of those folks. And perhaps worse yet, my experience is that they are sometimes older folks with TONS of information that is useful to all of us and no way for us to get to them. 2. Reunions: I'd love to come, but I think this is nearly impossible for me. I can barely make it to my own closer family reunions and they, tiny and infrequent as they are, are my first choice in such things. Broader Pennington reunions are great, but not much help to me. 3. Groups: I have to agree with Barb that most research takes place inside this various groups and not much outside them. Or at least it has been to this point. When everything comes online in February, that will change, theorectically. I said I offered to start a group. I know Gene told me something about this, but it does not appear to be an easy task. 4. DNA studies: Well what can I say ladies. For any of us who have female connections to this line and no male Penningtons, this is virtually useless to us. We just don't have the right stuff to use it. And whilst I wish the guys well, I am jealous. I wish I could prove my heritage so easily with some DNA work. By the way, I still harbor some misgivings about all DNA stuff that is goign on in genealogy. There are lots of questions yet to be answered about how to use this info. Tricky questions regarding ethics and such. 5. Web Page: Now I'm really going to put my foot in it. I think the PRA webpage needs help. I realize that this is all volunteers and since I am an officer in a couple volunteer organizations (not genealogical), I recognize that resources are always thin. That being said, it simply is not easy to understand. Some issues: * Web Queries: rather than having them organized by month and year and therefore requiring somebody to wade through them, why not let them just exist as a long chain as many other such queries pages do. It is FAR easier to scan a long chain of things than opening and reviewing and closing each monthly set. I can scan quickly. I've never gone through all the PRA ones because I just don't have that many hours. * Family Groups: if PRA is serious about getting lots of groups going and you should be because there are a ton of us who do not fit into the existing groups, then you need to do this in a manner that encourages formation. How about an online form requesting a new group that can be submitted and some kind of specified and easily understood way to accomplish this task. Telling people to contact Gene and then providing all that info. about the way groups must be named and all is intimidating at best, discouraging at worst. Instead of 34 groups, I'd like to see more than 100....whatever number it takes to get as much information about these lines available as possible. That is how we are going to connect the dots to each other. * Research: I don't expect anyone from any group to do my research. I expect to do it myself. I also expect to gather up whatever I can about Pennington's (like the Greenmount line that is not mine) and share it. That being said. HOW? Give me some forms to fill out online. Give me some easily explained directions for submitting info. * General Comment: I just find the PRA web page very difficult to get around. In some ways it provides way too much information about some things and then gives nearly no exact directions on others. If there isn't a web page committee, there needs to be one. OK, so now that I have annoyed most of the PRA world. You may ask, who the heck do I think I am. Why a Penington, of course. Regards, Cher At 10:04 PM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Dear Cher, > >I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will >certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure >others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via >this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to >the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please >forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will >certainly try. > >First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice >yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully >further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research >Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back >copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association >website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of >some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues >to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented >and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She >relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. >The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send >the material via email to her or by snail mail. > >All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is >made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and >maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where >many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's >reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established >Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper >Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various >places and hosted by various members. > >You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching >somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information >and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me >of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the >normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that >everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting >courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to >further the research. > >Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington >family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've >seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. >The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in >Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group >14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have >other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is >another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both >families to figure out which way to go. > >I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to >be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the >memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work >on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to >respond as well with suggestions. > >Regards, >Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still >looking for his parents) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > What I have is this: > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. >Penington, > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > submitted to PRA. > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the >"Mumma" > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it >and > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > Penington family. > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to >work > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington >Greenmount > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the >new > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > >cards. > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how >many > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was >just > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will >probated in > > >MD > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the >PRA > > >list > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in >the > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > > >makes > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone >tracking > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > > >find > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same >area > > >for > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and >go > > >back > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing >family > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > >inlaws. > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what >record > > >you > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep >searching > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find >your > > > > >cousins. > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files >we > > >will > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter >time > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > >cousins, > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > > >forgot > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post >the > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > >attachments > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for >the > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but >does > > >not > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is >all > > > > >well > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group >isn't > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA >has > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of >active > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > > >left > > > > >out > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > >connection > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, >frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > >anticlimatic > > > > >for > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming >change > > >in > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up >of > > >ALL > > > > >the > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > > >planned, > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome >and it > > >was > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will >become > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect >to a > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership >will be > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and >that > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > >groups. > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different >lines > > >and > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of >PRA > > >and > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, >7, > > >and > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in >any > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found >here > > >on > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big >ocean, > > >but > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a >step > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of >our > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start >a > > >group, > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, >membership > > >in > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > > >deal of > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and >run > > >by > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > >suggest > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you >just > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, >who > > >are > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly >some > > >of > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there >is > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as >much as > > >I > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have >been > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources >of > > >data > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let >us > > >know > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > >Marriage > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > > >help if > > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. >Try > > >to > > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > > >history > > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > > >expecting > > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html >or > > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > For help with your research, go to > > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean.

Hi Cher, I'm baack! I believe that Shirley was talking about the Pennington Pedigree being the 'journal'. Actually there are three way to post (free) the information that you have. * Post a query for ancestors on the website as well as the two mailing lists - the PRA. By posting on the website the query is automatically printed in the Pennington Pedigree, free * Information that you have on Green Mount and items we all find on Pennington in various books, places - post on the mailing lists, If it is an article as your piece from Green Mount, we can put on the website (myfamily), print it in the Pennington Pedigree (Barrie Petty - Editor). Being careful to list the source and being careful on copyright material. Our Pennington Pedigrees are very important and for all of our Pennington researchers that have no computers, the Pennington Pedigree it is our only link to them. I have one member in my Family Group that I keep in touch with monthly. Sometimes I send her an email from another person, to see if it rings a bell with what she has. So, the more places we can post information the better the result and the more people share. I hope that helps. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > impossible to accomplish. > > What I have is this: > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. Penington, > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > submitted to PRA. > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the "Mumma" > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it and > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > * I joined PRA as a member. > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > Penington family. > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to work > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > Cher > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > >ability can also enjoy. > > > >Shirley Erickson > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > >cards. > > > Cher > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in > >MD > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA > >list > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > >makes > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > >find > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area > >for > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go > >back > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > >inlaws. > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record > >you > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > > >cousins. > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we > >will > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > >cousins, > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > >forgot > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > >attachments > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does > >not > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > > >well > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > >left > > > >out > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > >connection > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > >anticlimatic > > > >for > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change > >in > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of > >ALL > > > >the > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > >planned, > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it > >was > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > >groups. > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines > >and > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA > >and > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, > >and > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here > >on > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, > >but > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a > >group, > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership > >in > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > >deal of > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run > >by > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > >suggest > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who > >are > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some > >of > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as > >I > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of > >data > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us > >know > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > >Marriage > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > >help if > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try > >to > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > >history > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > >expecting > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > For help with your research, go to > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

Folks, please, when replying to others, do not send to the whole group. You are clogging the email of folks not involved in your discussion. Tom